Posted November 01, 2017
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ElTerprise
Registered: May 2011
From Germany
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gamesfreak64
Service with a smile :D
Registered: Sep 2014
From Netherlands
Posted November 01, 2017
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I assume you know that most countries tracked every online move of the people, which sites they visited , social media, etc etc etc ... already from the beginning.
Some countries dont allow internet, and some do but block certain sites to prevent people reading things they don't want to read.
The thing is now with all the 'attacks' and whats been going on lately, the Dutch Govt decided that by dragging the net
sleepwet in Dutch they will be able to anticipate what might come regarding some 'things', they believe that 'naughty' people that might do very bad things will use internet communciations , ofcourse the bad guys can read anything the govt says in the news aswell so they probably wont be using that and maybe start sending mail by airmail via pigeons like in the medieval ages, and have personal meetings face to face like many critics already mentioned when talking about this bad idea of the law to drag data (sleepwet).
Basically its probably like this: in a democracy people have lots of freedom, they vote anonimous, people do have to id themselves when they vote but voting in general is anonimous, no one knows who voted on which party, imagine what they would find out when 'dragging' all data.
Govts will never admit that but somehow they would love to know everything, they have referenda but they dont like people to say no when they want yes and vice versa, so this law will allow them to know everything, which might not be that bad but doing so they do violate some rules, seems there is a 'rule' or 'law':
European fundamental rights.
Its quite complicated and the AIV insures and claims they wont be looking for people doing naughty things like snooping around if people download certain things but in the meantime they know everything and who guarantees they wont abuse it ? lots of people dont really trust Govts they always lie in a way and yes = no and no = yes so its the govts own fault that there is little trust.
Anyway the petition is done so basically a referendum might be held , somewhere in march 2018, thing is the law will be active starting jan 1 st 2018.... so some govt people like mr. Buma (not the BUMA/STEMRA) said he will ignore it, and he also said the other parties vvd and cu agree with him, so its a mess at the moment and they will mess it up even more.
This proves that the good old 70s and 80s were indeed the better decades compared to the millenium (2000 and up )
Thats why i said that the little info game companies collect like account info email info and some IP, is nothing compared to all the data our own Govt going to collect which they would never see. so they can have it :D
the govts are the ones harvesting data and ofcourse they will look in it..... :D
take yahoo, they already collected lots of data before and now verizon took over they announced to harvest even more :D i need the mail for my games like gog and online browsergames so let them harvest all they know is ip, location and maybe a mobile nr thats all.
Post edited November 01, 2017 by gamesfreak64
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elcook
That PR Guy
GOG.com Team
Registered: Oct 2011
From Poland
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tfishell
Remorse: The List, if you like FPS psych horror
Registered: Oct 2010
From United States
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HunchBluntley
language geek
Registered: Jul 2014
From United States
Posted November 01, 2017
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CthulhuInSpace
Just because we disagree doesnt mean I hate you.
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted November 01, 2017
Kind of sad to see so many games gone, but what's done is done.
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HeartsAndRainbows
is the terror that flaps in the night
Registered: Jan 2017
From Other
Posted November 01, 2017
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At least Beneath a Steel Sky is still here.
Chronology on the other hand was a Newgrounds game that looked nice but came with a 5 dollar price tag. It was on my wishlist forever, waiting for a 90% sale that never came...
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MarkoH01
The goose rules!
Registered: Jun 2009
From Germany
Posted November 01, 2017
For what it's worth I also contacted the dev of FRACT OS (in addition I also contacted another dev I "knew" who was following his Twitter but they replied to me that unfortunately they did not know the dev well enough). So far I also got no reply. Really sad to see this gone. I spent so much on this Halloween sale that I just couldn't get myself to buy this one too. But hope dies last and I can still try top reach the dev...
But the fact that those games are gone for now does not have to mean that they are gone forever. Maybe we will find a way to get in contact with some of those devs after all.
But the fact that those games are gone for now does not have to mean that they are gone forever. Maybe we will find a way to get in contact with some of those devs after all.
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drmike
Why yes, I am a Major General
Registered: Jan 2012
From United States
Posted November 01, 2017
Always amazed me about forums and sticky posts. Quite often they go unnoticed by readers.
That's a serious statement, not trying to make light of it. One support forum I used to help out on, we had 72 point text with link going across the front page, the front page of the subforums and any in bound traffic from search engines about a current bug. People still missed it and started new threads asking why the problem hadn't been noticed (It had) and why it hadn't been fixed yet. (It had which was covered in the linked to article.)
That's a serious statement, not trying to make light of it. One support forum I used to help out on, we had 72 point text with link going across the front page, the front page of the subforums and any in bound traffic from search engines about a current bug. People still missed it and started new threads asking why the problem hadn't been noticed (It had) and why it hadn't been fixed yet. (It had which was covered in the linked to article.)
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Cusith
duatharachd
Registered: May 2011
From Other
Posted November 01, 2017
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That's a serious statement, not trying to make light of it. One support forum I used to help out on, we had 72 point text with link going across the front page, the front page of the subforums and any in bound traffic from search engines about a current bug. People still missed it and started new threads asking why the problem hadn't been noticed (It had) and why it hadn't been fixed yet. (It had which was covered in the linked to article.)
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drmike
Why yes, I am a Major General
Registered: Jan 2012
From United States
Posted November 01, 2017
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But you may be right. I've been to some forums, and they have over a dozen stickies on every page.
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RWarehall
Ja'loja!
Registered: Jan 2012
From United States
Posted November 01, 2017
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But you may be right. I've been to some forums, and they have over a dozen stickies on every page.
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MarkoH01
The goose rules!
Registered: Jun 2009
From Germany
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LEMON CURRY?
Møøse operator
Registered: Jun 2013
From Denmark
Posted November 01, 2017
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Personally, I expect it to appear as the subject matter of an official GOG.com thread (but they too ought to be coloured blue to make them stand out better).
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yogsloth
GRAAAAAAH!!!!!
Registered: Dec 2013
From United States
Posted November 01, 2017
Ah DAMMIT, I didn't see this.