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Posted February 21, 2014
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

EDIT: Since we've answered a lot of the common questions already here (and lest you think that we've ignored you), it may be handy for you to check out the forum thread about this and search for staff answers by clicking this link here. (hat tip to user Eli who reminded us that the feature even exists. :)
Posted February 21, 2014
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liquidsnakehpks: Its clear from the replies the gog team is interested in maintaining only one thing DRM FREE games and nothing else matters , we should expect to see more worse things in future
And they're testing the edges of that one with some of their recent polls as well if I'm not mistaken.
Posted February 21, 2014
SLG is Age of wonders III
RPG is Witcher 3 and original sin.
I think it is.
Posted February 21, 2014
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liquidsnakehpks: Its clear from the replies the gog team is interested in maintaining only one thing DRM FREE games and nothing else matters , we should expect to see more worse things in future
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Pheace: And they're testing the edges of that one with some of their recent polls as well if I'm not mistaken.
dont remind me of that poll .........almost everything in it is happening
Posted February 21, 2014
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crazy_dave: I think people from countries that get hit hardest by regional pricing would disagree with you that it is only a minor issue ;)

It's easy being from the US and Canada to say it isn't important. We don't pay the price for regional pricing pun intended. Although to be fair those from Western and Northern Europe are typically paying the right amount due to regional pricing (that is who the EU regional pricing is aimed at after all) - it's those from NZ, AU, and Eastern and Southern Europe (probably parts of Asia too though not as clear to me) that get hit hard.
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skeletonbow: It's not a minor issue in absolute terms. It's a minor issue relative to the issue of DRM-free IMHO. In other words I'm saying DRM-free trumps regional pricing related issues as being more important. I'm not saying either issue is not important, I'm saying that DRM-free is more important.

Having said that, I think your assessment that some countries that are outside of North America end up getting pricing that is higher is a reasonable assessment. When you have varying pricing on something by definition someone is going to pay more for it and someone is going to pay less. The cool thing in this case, is that both parties have the option of whether or not to pay, and both parties get DRM-free software as a result. ;o)

You make me consider another thought though too. Could this actually lower pricing in North America for some games compared to what the price would be if it was one single global pricing model? If so, *AWESOMESAUCE* with bacon and poutine on top! Having our game purchases in North America subsidized by the Euro would be great! Even better than the economic bailouts in Greece etc. ;o)

I think Canadians should get the best prices anywhere under the new model because we're just so damned friendly to people around the world. ;oP

(I'm having a bit of lighthearted fun with this for those who might take my comments above too seriously, all in good fun.)
hey douche, come and live in Greece with the salaries here (if you are lucky and not unemployed for 5 years as many (like myself are) and see how great this "bailout" was here.
This city alone has 57% unemployment rate of younger ages.
Fucking douche.
Posted February 21, 2014
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Pheace: And they're testing the edges of that one with some of their recent polls as well if I'm not mistaken.
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liquidsnakehpks: dont remind me of that poll .........almost everything in it is happening
Poll?

Sorry i've been lax on GOG news for a while.
Posted February 21, 2014
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liquidsnakehpks: dont remind me of that poll .........almost everything in it is happening
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MrLongPants: Poll?

Sorry i've been lax on GOG news for a while.
It was a poll.
It was a survey asking GOG members about different things
Posted February 21, 2014
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Wishbone: Translation: Every game in the catalog will eventually be regionally priced, as and when the contracts come up for renegotiation. Since it is now an option, every publisher will insist on it in the future.
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TheEnigmaticT: Well, no. That's not what I'm trying to say. What I'm trying to say is what I actually said there.

But let's suppose that when a contract comes up for offer, someone asks about a $5.99 game on GOG. It's been selling well, but they wanna know what we're doing about localizing our prices. While they make up their own minds about pricing, we can give them advice and make recommendations based upon our experience as experts in the field of "selling games online." There's, what, 3 stores on the 'Net that have 700 or more games in their catalog? 4? Our advice does carry with it some weight. Don't you think that, given what we've already said about our goals for keeping regional prices fair that it might not be a reasonable to believe that we're gonna push for that game to be 4.49 EUR or something like that instead of 5.99 EUR? That's indubitably regional pricing and regional currencies, but I think it's manifestly fair and probably even better for local users than what we have now.

Is that what's going to happen? Heck, Wishbone, I dunno. As I've made clear elsewhere in the thread, this is early days for this particular news. We're telling you guys about this now because we have some regionally-priced games lined up soon and needed to tell you guys about this before their releases, but this is also something that's developing as we speak. I realize that thinking of regional pricing as something other than "you're about to get screwed over" can be tough to conceive, given how other stores have approached this, but let's see what's possible before lighting a pitchfork,* okay?

*if you're lighting a pitchfork on fire, you've done something terribly wrong. Please consult your instruction manual or call technical support.
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Marcomies: Thank you for honest and mostly unevasive answers.
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TheEnigmaticT: I appreciate the qualifier, there. :P
So I'm not getting my pitchfork out ... just yet :) ... And if you guys manage to create a regional pricing scheme that people will agree to which doesn't shaft the aforementioned parties and everyone pays fair rates with regional pricing, you'll be heroes in my book and have done something incredible

I don't see how you're going to do that though ...
Posted February 21, 2014
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skeletonbow: Just be careful where you're standing below when he decides to defenestrate his bladder. ;o)
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TheEnigmaticT: If I defenestrate my bladder, we have bigger problems than who's below the window. Like why is my bladder outside my body and flying out a window? 0_o
hey but if you liked it does that mean you are 'pro-strate' lolz :P had to say it
Posted February 21, 2014
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johnnygoging: on a more positive note.

might and magic x

it's gonna be one of the two. I bet it is
Hrm, that's a good speculation. I was wondering about that one a couple days ago.
Posted February 21, 2014
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TheEnigmaticT: Well, no. That's not what I'm trying to say. What I'm trying to say is what I actually said there.

But let's suppose that when a contract comes up for offer, someone asks about a $5.99 game on GOG. It's been selling well, but they wanna know what we're doing about localizing our prices. While they make up their own minds about pricing, we can give them advice and make recommendations based upon our experience as experts in the field of "selling games online." There's, what, 3 stores on the 'Net that have 700 or more games in their catalog? 4? Our advice does carry with it some weight. Don't you think that, given what we've already said about our goals for keeping regional prices fair that it might not be a reasonable to believe that we're gonna push for that game to be 4.49 EUR or something like that instead of 5.99 EUR? That's indubitably regional pricing and regional currencies, but I think it's manifestly fair and probably even better for local users than what we have now.

Is that what's going to happen? Heck, Wishbone, I dunno. As I've made clear elsewhere in the thread, this is early days for this particular news. We're telling you guys about this now because we have some regionally-priced games lined up soon and needed to tell you guys about this before their releases, but this is also something that's developing as we speak. I realize that thinking of regional pricing as something other than "you're about to get screwed over" can be tough to conceive, given how other stores have approached this, but let's see what's possible before lighting a pitchfork,* okay?

*if you're lighting a pitchfork on fire, you've done something terribly wrong. Please consult your instruction manual or call technical support.

I appreciate the qualifier, there. :P
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crazy_dave: So I'm not getting my pitchfork out ... just yet :) ... And if you guys manage to create a regional pricing scheme that people will agree to which doesn't shaft the aforementioned parties and everyone pays fair rates with regional pricing, you'll be heroes in my book and have done something incredible

I don't see how you're going to do that though ...
Ply us with free games or credit each time one of THOSE AAA games are launched although i doubt they can drop $20 everytime an aussie (or others) get hit with regional pricing
Posted February 21, 2014
Worldwide pricing was always one of GOG's selling points (even for those that don't mind minor DRM like Steam). It would be sad to see this be compromised to placate a few greedy rights holders wanting to get more than their fair share of customers' money.

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Fictionvision: look at what happened with Humble Bundles ... Now they have introduced regional pricing as well.
For reference, Humble Store pricing only changes when buying through the store site itself; the Humble Bundles, Weekly Sales and Widgets are deliberately excluded so use the old-style USD pricing with no regional variation. See PCGamingWiki's Humble Store page for a full list of Widget links.
Posted February 21, 2014
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crazy_dave: I think people from countries that get hit hardest by regional pricing would disagree with you that it is only a minor issue ;)

It's easy being from the US and Canada to say it isn't important. We don't pay the price for regional pricing pun intended. Although to be fair those from Western and Northern Europe are typically paying the right amount due to regional pricing (that is who the EU regional pricing is aimed at after all) - it's those from NZ, AU, and Eastern and Southern Europe (probably parts of Asia too though not as clear to me) that get hit hard.
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skeletonbow: It's not a minor issue in absolute terms. It's a minor issue relative to the issue of DRM-free IMHO. In other words I'm saying DRM-free trumps regional pricing related issues as being more important. I'm not saying either issue is not important, I'm saying that DRM-free is more important.

Having said that, I think your assessment that some countries that are outside of North America end up getting pricing that is higher is a reasonable assessment. When you have varying pricing on something by definition someone is going to pay more for it and someone is going to pay less. The cool thing in this case, is that both parties have the option of whether or not to pay, and both parties get DRM-free software as a result. ;o)

You make me consider another thought though too. Could this actually lower pricing in North America for some games compared to what the price would be if it was one single global pricing model? If so, *AWESOMESAUCE* with bacon and poutine on top! Having our game purchases in North America subsidized by the Euro would be great! Even better than the economic bailouts in Greece etc. ;o)

I think Canadians should get the best prices anywhere under the new model because we're just so damned friendly to people around the world. ;oP

(I'm having a bit of lighthearted fun with this for those who might take my comments above too seriously, all in good fun.)
Except I this case some of the countries that pay higher prices are poorer than the US and Canada ... by a lot - sure a France, Germany, UK, etc ... having prices matching what the US pays in dollars fits because those countries have economies where the domestic purchasing power of their currency matches US purchasing power. The trouble is that often Romania, Macedonia, dare I say it ... Poland pay the same prices as Germany under how regional pricing is currently implemented by most stores

All the euro zone countries pay one price under the one world model, which means some Europeans get a great deal, but the cheaper overall price also works in favor of the poorer euro zone countries who normally are hit hard by regional pricing
Post edited February 21, 2014 by crazy_dave
Posted February 21, 2014
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liquidsnakehpks: Its clear from the replies the gog team is interested in maintaining only one thing DRM FREE games and nothing else matters , we should expect to see more worse things in future
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CarrionCrow: We can expect worse things in the future if that's how we want to perceive things, thinking the worst about people and expecting them to do the worst possible thing at all times ahead of all other options. Does anyone really want to be sitting here a few years from now going, "Man, GOG sure was great, they never compromised on a thing, and they piloted the ship bravely....all the way down."?
I don't think I'd rather take up "Remember the GoG!" meaning they put up the good fight uncompromisingly

as opposed to

"Ya hear, Valve has decided their going to be exclusively using GOG-DRM..."

extreme & unlikely situation i admit.
Posted February 21, 2014
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F4LL0UT: Man, GOGers are one insensible and ungrateful bunch. It's not like the sky is falling down, people. We will get games that we would not have gotten otherwise and the GOG team clearly feels uneasy about the necessity to introduce regional pricing for *some* games and wants to make up for it. This whole outrage is ridiculous.
LOL, this is exactly what I was thinking to be honest.

Choice A: Game A at regional price X on Steam with DRM.
Choice B: Game A at same regional price X on GOG without DRM + free game.
Choice C: Don't buy Game A (like I described in my first post, don't buy launch titles)

vs:

Choice A: Game A at regional price X on Steam with DRM.
Choice B: Don't buy Game A.


Of course we all would want "Game A on GOG without DRM at the flat price". But if that can't happen, isn't it better to have the first set of options than the second?
Posted February 21, 2014
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TheEnigmaticT: If I defenestrate my bladder, we have bigger problems than who's below the window. Like why is my bladder outside my body and flying out a window? 0_o
LOL... I was meaning more "the contents" rather than the bladder itself... however...

hrm.. this gives me some ideas for an indie game... ;oP
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