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Posted February 21, 2014
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

EDIT: Since we've answered a lot of the common questions already here (and lest you think that we've ignored you), it may be handy for you to check out the forum thread about this and search for staff answers by clicking this link here. (hat tip to user Eli who reminded us that the feature even exists. :)
Posted February 24, 2014
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Bloodygoodgames: I don't think GOG will even be in existence in 5 years time.
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Niggles: Wow thats super pessimistic.
Nope, it's actually not. It's based on experience. I've been in business in senior management positions for 25 years, and have run or worked for internet businesses for the last 10.

I've never been wrong about an online company being eventually bought out or shut down. The signs and mistakes they make are easy to spot, as are business owners who don't understand basic business concepts. Particularly when it comes to what drives customer loyalty.

With the internet in particular, customers move to another site very quickly. Why do you think Facebook just bought What's App for $19 billion? They're desperate to keep their younger customers (millions of whom are already defecting to other websites) and also wanted to have access to the private phone and contact records of hundreds of millions of What's App customers so they could use that to give to Facebook advertisers so that Facebook could solidify their advertising revenues..

It won't work. What's App will be dead in a couple of years (Line is already bigger than What's App and growing faster here in Asia, which is where most of the world lives), and Facebook will be hemorrhaging users if that's the only type of strategy they can come up with.

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Bloodygoodgames: I can buy absolutely every game GOG sells on a bootleg DVD here in Bangkok. I haven't done as I've loved supporting a site that sticks to its principles no matter what.

Now that it's obvious GOG doesn't have principles, and are trying to whitewash the truth by telling us all how "wonderful" it is that we'll be getting these three big games (whatever!) with regional pricing, there's not really much incentive to buy here anymore now is there.

I'll be downloading all my games over the next few weeks and then ......pretty much done here. Just like I became 'done' with GamersGate last year. Haven't bought a game there since.
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rawmilk905: Keep your account and take advantage of updates and support and forum info though. No use giving up what you've already paid for. As for me, I am sadly done with giveaways here and done with trying new games here unless the policy change is reversed. If something like a complete version of The Sims 2 with all EPs and SPs in one installer came here, I could not pass that up, and if a game that was part of a franchise I already like showed up I might get it, but my rampant game collecting and gifting generosity on GOG are done until I see "one world, fair price" back up on the frontpage. We were assured from the beginning that GOG was a company committed to its core values. Striking one from the list out of nowhere indicates a real shift at GOG. In the US I might not even be affected by regional pricing, but it always felt kind of like I was making a kickstarter donation to an idea I believed in when I bought from GOG. Now they're just another shady company to me.
Don't worry, I won't shut down my account as I still want access to what I've already paid for.

I won't, however, be buying another game on GOG if they continue with this regional pricing as, yes, 'just another shady company' describes my thoughts exactly :(

Also, like you with your 'no longer doing gift giveaways on GOG', I won't be promoting them on my website anymore either or buying GOG games to give away on there. I'll also be changing the links I have on the site from GOG to other sites as I find them.
Post edited February 24, 2014 by Bloodygoodgames
Posted February 24, 2014
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Chacranajxy: It doesn't really work that way, in the US, at least.
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mangamuscle: ATM the USA produces most of the software (games, music, movies, etc.) it consumes and when it does not the publishers charge LESS than what they charge in Japan/Europe, so there is no real reason for the government to act, which is the opposite of the Aussies situation (unless you mean to say you want your government to intervene so said software is sold at the same price it is sold in other 1st word countries).
I'm saying that in the US, the government wouldn't act, even in that situation you described. The US only tends to act on such things when there's some sort of unreasonable pricing during a time of emergency, or where there would be some sort of serious, anti-competitive effect. In this case, the US would view it as a situation where buyers aren't coerced to pay the asking price, so the market gets to sort it out on their own.

I'm not 100% familiar with foreign approaches to it, but European countries tend to resemble the US when it comes to these sorts of laws (with an exception here and there.)
Posted February 24, 2014
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Rusty_Gunn: When in doubt search Amazon
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donsanderson: Thanks but we were just playing with some song lyrics from a 46 year old (ouch) song. :)
(Why is it I can remember those but not to shut off the damn coffee pot?)
Maybe I should trade in my joystick for a walker?
NOT!

BTW: I do have all of the Fallout games and love 'em.
I have them aswell
in that case I guess the link is for those who did not get a proper chance to own these as they were
Posted February 24, 2014
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Bloodygoodgames: Don't worry, I won't shut down my account as I still want access to what I've already paid for.

I won't, however, be buying another game on GOG if they continue with this regional pricing as, yes, 'just another shady company' describes my thoughts exactly :(

Also, like you with your 'no longer doing gift giveaways on GOG', I won't be promoting them on my website anymore either or buying GOG games to give away on there. I'll also be changing the links I have on the site from GOG to other sites as I find them.
So you not only predict a companies death, you do your best to help it die?
Wow.

Wouldn't just casting a vote against the policy change be more constructive at the moment?
Post edited February 24, 2014 by donsanderson
Posted February 24, 2014
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zeroxxx: There's region restricted products on Steam, for example. Or something like Spec Ops the Line being banned on Arab Saudi for showing Dubai in destruction. Why AUS can't exert such? If they say it's a bannable products, anything regarding bannable products are prohibited. If the companies try to sell to the AUS citizens in AUS territory, it comes as criminals. Sue them. As simple as that.
Sue them where? If they don't have operations in Australia, then there is nothing Australia can do. Most distributers play along and censor to be nice to the government, but the reality is there is no way to enforce this at all.

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zeroxxx: I'm not saying there's a need to stop every single bits. Just prevent them from selling the products legally, that will attract their attentions.
Illegal to WHO is the whole point. If it is legal in the country they operate then Australia can not do anything.

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zeroxxx: Why do you think game companies make censored version for Germany and AUS? It is because they need to sell in those countries. They WANT money, that's why they make the censored versions.
Becuse they want to sell in STORES in those countries, which is a different thing entirely. How many indie download only titles have Ausrtalian versions?

Are you serious? O_o Just the same that a gas station cannot charge 50% percent more than the station two blocks away selling the same gasoline, the government has the power to outlaw any kind of price gouging, if a software produced somewhere else can be sold to USA citizens for( i.e.) 20 USD there is NO REASON for a digital distributor to charge a different price, this is simple greed from the publishers and it looks Aussies are too soft to demand their government to do their work, I have not researched this topic but seems to me import movies and music is ALSO sold for extra money over there, am I right?
Sure, and if they are selling at a 'gas' station you can go after them, but if the seller isn't in your country there is NOTHING you can do.
Post edited February 24, 2014 by _Bruce_
Posted February 24, 2014
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dirtyharry50: You can get any game you want...
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donsanderson: exceptin' Fallout.....
WOW, i got all the Fallout games for free on GOG... dont tell me you didnt... LOL :D
Posted February 24, 2014
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donsanderson: exceptin' Fallout.....
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EPurpl3: WOW, i got all the Fallout games for free on GOG... dont tell me you didnt... LOL :D
Well yes, yes I did! :-O
Posted February 24, 2014
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mangamuscle: ATM the USA produces most of the software (games, music, movies, etc.) it consumes and when it does not the publishers charge LESS than what they charge in Japan/Europe, so there is no real reason for the government to act, which is the opposite of the Aussies situation (unless you mean to say you want your government to intervene so said software is sold at the same price it is sold in other 1st word countries).
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Chacranajxy: I'm saying that in the US, the government wouldn't act, even in that situation you described. The US only tends to act on such things when there's some sort of unreasonable pricing during a time of emergency, or where there would be some sort of serious, anti-competitive effect. In this case, the US would view it as a situation where buyers aren't coerced to pay the asking price, so the market gets to sort it out on their own.

I'm not 100% familiar with foreign approaches to it, but European countries tend to resemble the US when it comes to these sorts of laws (with an exception here and there.)
So you are trying to tell me that the USA does nothing when gasoline price gouging is detected? Do you want to sell me the golden bridge also? I know software probably is not considered a "necessary good", but I doubt any politician would allow it, have you already forgotten your forefathers dropped British tea on the harbor because it was sold at a premium (with no option to buy from other sources), last time I checked tea is also not a "necessary good".
Posted February 24, 2014
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Bloodygoodgames: Don't worry, I won't shut down my account as I still want access to what I've already paid for.

I won't, however, be buying another game on GOG if they continue with this regional pricing as, yes, 'just another shady company' describes my thoughts exactly :(

Also, like you with your 'no longer doing gift giveaways on GOG', I won't be promoting them on my website anymore either or buying GOG games to give away on there. I'll also be changing the links I have on the site from GOG to other sites as I find them.
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donsanderson: So you not only predict a companies death, you do your best to help it die?
Wow.
Are you saying that the roughly 7 billion people that live in this world are actively killing GOG by not buying from there? I'd say it's GOG's job to keep its customers from leaving and that it's killing itself with stupid business decisions – without anyone's help.
Posted February 24, 2014
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donsanderson: exceptin' Fallout.....
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dirtyharry50: LOL!!!

Good one!
I've still got a legitimate gift code, as in one that wasn't canceled for being a freebie. And it will only cost, one beeeleeon dollars.
Posted February 24, 2014
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_Bruce_: Sure, and if they are selling at a 'gas' station you can go after them, but if the seller isn't in your country there is NOTHING you can do.
In the US, at least, the way it works is that if a seller has no presence in your country, but is actively selling there (ie: they've established minimum contacts in that country), you can sue them.

But then, we really like litigation here.
Posted February 24, 2014
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donsanderson: So you not only predict a companies death, you do your best to help it die?
Wow.
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Selderij: Are you saying that the roughly 7 billion people that live in this world are actively killing GOG by not buying from there? I'd say it's GOG's job to keep its customers from leaving and that it's killing itself with stupid business decisions – without anyone's help.
I edited my post as you were replying, sorry I wasn't quick enough.
I added a question as to whether voting against this change wasn't a more constructive thing to do till we all see how this turns out.
I think it's a bit early to just 'jump ship'.
Posted February 24, 2014
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Chacranajxy: I'm saying that in the US, the government wouldn't act, even in that situation you described. The US only tends to act on such things when there's some sort of unreasonable pricing during a time of emergency, or where there would be some sort of serious, anti-competitive effect. In this case, the US would view it as a situation where buyers aren't coerced to pay the asking price, so the market gets to sort it out on their own.

I'm not 100% familiar with foreign approaches to it, but European countries tend to resemble the US when it comes to these sorts of laws (with an exception here and there.)
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mangamuscle: So you are trying to tell me that the USA does nothing when gasoline price gouging is detected? Do you want to sell me the golden bridge also? I know software probably is not considered a "necessary good", but I doubt any politician would allow it, have you already forgotten your forefathers dropped British tea on the harbor because it was sold at a premium (with no option to buy from other sources), last time I checked tea is also not a "necessary good".
Yeah, obviously gas, being a necessary good, would involve some sort of serious effect. Games, on the other hand... not so much. I promise you, no politician cares.

And our schools are so bad that I'm sure nobody even remembers what the Boston Tea Party was about. Well, that, and an event that happened almost 250 years ago isn't really the most relevant precedent.
Post edited February 24, 2014 by Chacranajxy
Posted February 24, 2014
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dirtyharry50: LOL!!!

Good one!
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hedwards: I've still got a legitimate gift code, as in one that wasn't canceled for being a freebie. And it will only cost, one beeeleeon dollars.
Do you take Space Bucks? :P
Posted February 24, 2014

Are you serious? O_o Just the same that a gas station cannot charge 50% percent more than the station two blocks away selling the same gasoline, the government has the power to outlaw any kind of price gouging, if a software produced somewhere else can be sold to USA citizens for( i.e.) 20 USD there is NO REASON for a digital distributor to charge a different price, this is simple greed from the publishers and it looks Aussies are too soft to demand their government to do their work, I have not researched this topic but seems to me import movies and music is ALSO sold for extra money over there, am I right?
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_Bruce_: Sure, and if they are selling at a 'gas' station you can go after them, but if the seller isn't in your country there is NOTHING you can do.
Remember that If you nail down the brick and mortar software stores (inside Australia) that sell software at an extra price then software publishers will not have the excuse of "We have an agreement with x, y and z chain of stores of not selling the software at a lower cost than them". It would be win/win for all consumers, but you have to MAKE your government act, it is an historical fact that governments are not proactive, they are reactive, at least when we are talking about what their citizens demand.
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