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Posted February 21, 2014
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

EDIT: Since we've answered a lot of the common questions already here (and lest you think that we've ignored you), it may be handy for you to check out the forum thread about this and search for staff answers by clicking this link here. (hat tip to user Eli who reminded us that the feature even exists. :)
Posted February 24, 2014
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donsanderson: Considering all the attention this has received the turnout is rather weak IMO.
Yeah, when I voted I thought the same thing.

It's entirely possible I/we are in the minority here, and most people are okay with it. It's easy to think otherwise simply because those that feel strongly about something are more likely to be vocal and it's more likely for those who are against this to feel strongly and those who don't care to... well just not really care... they won't be as vocal.

This thread could be 300 pages long and it would still only represent a tiny minority of gog's customers. The question always is, is it a representative sample or not. Perhaps this is one of those cases where it's not, and not by a long shot. But I don't know, it's hard to tell at this point. But seeing that few votes is one indicator of the possibility.
Post edited February 24, 2014 by OldFatGuy
Posted February 24, 2014
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donsanderson: Considering all the attention this has received the turnout is rather weak IMO.
It's been there for a small amount of time, and most people didn't even realize is there.
Also, most US residents probably don't care. GOG obviously was well aware of the fact most european users would complain, but maybe they made some math and think that the number of US residents that would buy those new games largely overcomes the number of europeans complaining.
Maybe they didn't realize that many of those europeans may actively BOYCOTT their site by not buying ANYTHING anymore, not just those 3 games. Now that would be painful for them.
Also, they didn't count the people that didn't already join and may have joined the site but won't because of this. Or they think the number of newscomers willing to buy the new games will be greater.
Post edited February 24, 2014 by Shendue
Posted February 24, 2014
Damn, this news piece is all over the net, though usually just the "dry" announcement. Did find forum threads in a few places... and another vote, but need to register and vote before seeing results so no idea how that looks.
Posted February 24, 2014
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donsanderson: Considering all the attention this has received the turnout is rather weak IMO.
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OldFatGuy: Yeah, when I voted I thought the same thing.

It's entirely possible I/we are in the minority here, and most people are okay with it. It's easy to think otherwise simply because those that feel strongly about something are more likely to be vocal and it's more likely for those who are against this to feel strongly and those who don't care to... well just not really care... they won't be as vocal.

This thread could be 300 pages long and it would still only represent a tiny minority of gog's customers. The question always is, is it a representative sample or not. Perhaps this is one of those cases where it's not, and not by a long shot. But I don't know, it's hard to tell at this point. But seeing that few votes is one indicator of the possibility.
Agreed.
I tend to shy away from threads like this because my voice just gets lost in the crowd.
I prefer to make a brief comment or two and then let it go.
I vote with my pen and my wallet on issues like this and hope others have the conviction to do the same.
Posted February 24, 2014
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Shendue: Maybe they didn't realize that many of those europeans may actively BOYCOTT their site by not buying ANYTHING anymore, not just those 3 games. Now that would be painful for them.
If that's going to be the case, I hope they will let us know somehow. I just broke down and bought two games from this weekend's sale because I've been unable to get a feel for whether or not the reaction is that strong or not, but if it is, I would like to support their efforts.
Post edited February 24, 2014 by OldFatGuy
Posted February 24, 2014
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OldFatGuy: Yeah, when I voted I thought the same thing.

It's entirely possible I/we are in the minority here, and most people are okay with it. It's easy to think otherwise simply because those that feel strongly about something are more likely to be vocal and it's more likely for those who are against this to feel strongly and those who don't care to... well just not really care... they won't be as vocal.

This thread could be 300 pages long and it would still only represent a tiny minority of gog's customers. The question always is, is it a representative sample or not. Perhaps this is one of those cases where it's not, and not by a long shot. But I don't know, it's hard to tell at this point. But seeing that few votes is one indicator of the possibility.
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donsanderson: Agreed.
I tend to shy away from threads like this because my voice just gets lost in the crowd.
I prefer to make a brief comment or two and then let it go.
I vote with my pen and my wallet on issues like this and hope others have the conviction to do the same.
Well, users from USA should be happy, the EU users will pay more.
Posted February 24, 2014
Whenever I read "boycott", I remember this image.

http://fenixius.net/blogstuff/mw2boycott.jpg

I don't like regional pricing. It opens the window to regional locking.

But... Let's calm down and see how things turn out.
Posted February 24, 2014
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JudasIscariot: The only magic wand I got comes in Photoshop and I barely manage to use it effectively :P
The trick is to lower the threshold and shift+click a bunch of times.
Posted February 24, 2014
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donsanderson: Agreed.
I tend to shy away from threads like this because my voice just gets lost in the crowd.
I prefer to make a brief comment or two and then let it go.
I vote with my pen and my wallet on issues like this and hope others have the conviction to do the same.
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EPurpl3: Well, users from USA should be happy, the EU users will pay more.
Well this USA user isn't happy and I don't see why any of us should be.
You paying more than me doesn't strike me as any better than if the situation were reversed.
Posted February 24, 2014
Plenty of USA cares, and it will impact sales.
Post edited February 24, 2014 by jfanno
Posted February 24, 2014
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WireHead: Regarding the soundtracks, I understand that some indie games "outsource" the soundtracks, and have it for sale in other stores. And although I would prefer in this situations to be able to buy the game here, for a higher price, but with the soundtracks, I still understand it could be a case of "that's the way the contract was possibly to be made". But then, how come do the soundtracks appear in a bundle, before they even appear here before? To me, a GOG client, that get's the impression of "oh, hey, sorry about that, here's a slap on your face for hoping this would come to GOG".

I'm not saying it's GOG's fault, the dev's, or anyone else... but the fact still remains that there's something rotten here..

And, then there are the King's Art games (in this case, the "outsourcing" stuff doesn't comply)... I can still understand these were the releases for the cheaper prices GOG could manage to get here, but then, why aren't the "deluxe" editions available, also? Specially that now, there are available as dirt cheap?

I wasn't expecting them to be here, dirt cheap. I was expecting them to be here, period!

I think the message I was trying to pass is: "I'm trying to give you my money GOG, but on some occasions, you don't seem too interested".
Cant remember the details but someone else answer the same question when i brought it up a while back - most indies outsource their soundtracks - very few dont (keeping inhouse... thats why u see so few indies include soundtracks ie Hammerwatch) --- a lot of them sell the soundtracks separately on bandcamp etc.
Cant remember why alternate editions (including soundtracks) aren't sold here and i have no idea how Humble cons certain games that go into their bundles to include soundtrack - must be magic or some high end spell they cast on devs.
GOG probably doesnt sell soundtracks separately as you will get people bleating and complaining and whinging soundtracks should all be included as freebies with new or indie releases blah blah..
Post edited February 24, 2014 by Niggles
Posted February 24, 2014
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donsanderson: Considering all the attention this has received the turnout is rather weak IMO.
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Shendue: It's been there for a small amount of time, and most people didn't even realize is there.
I visited GOG twice since the announcement article was up, but I saw no reason to read it. Not until I read about the more controversial content on another site just a few hours ago.
Posted February 24, 2014
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JudasIscariot: I can't say that we didn't notice the current trend in some of the bundles regarding the OSTs and other things but I also can't say why they are offered the way they are offered because neither you or I know the details that are behind the scenes :)

edit: we don't give up but we also can't force someone to give something to us if they legally can't due to outsourcing the soundtrack, for example.

As far as the Deluxe versions being available here, well, all I can recommend is that you send that kind of feedback through the official Contact Us link. Make your voice heard :)
Exactly, I would really like to know the "how's" and "why's" behind the availability/unavailability of some of the extras.

I liked the adition of "upgrades"/"deluxe editions" to GOG's catalog. Of course, I prefer to have the extras already available for the base game but, in negotiations where that isn't possible, at least give us the possibility to buy those extras from GOG.

Thanks for pointing the link. Sometimes, a user rants in a forum thread, instead of actually using the most direct methods!
Posted February 24, 2014
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EPurpl3: Well, users from USA should be happy, the EU users will pay more.
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donsanderson: Well this USA user isn't happy and I don't see why any of us should be.
You paying more than me doesn't strike me as any better than if the situation were reversed.
Lets be honest, Steam sucks, we will all continue to support GOG even after this and it is obvious that the prices will increase, but not for you. As long as we will all continue to support GOG and we have no choice regarding the pricing system than you should be happy that you wont have to pay more.
Posted February 24, 2014
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WireHead: Exactly, I would really like to know the "how's" and "why's" behind the availability/unavailability of some of the extras.
Humble probably pays under the table or makes some $$$ promises which persuades the dev + muso to include the soundtracks - cant see any other reasons.
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