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Posted February 21, 2014
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

EDIT: Since we've answered a lot of the common questions already here (and lest you think that we've ignored you), it may be handy for you to check out the forum thread about this and search for staff answers by clicking this link here. (hat tip to user Eli who reminded us that the feature even exists. :)
Posted February 24, 2014
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Bloodygoodgames: Yep :)

I hate anything like that, as it's completely unnecessary in order to sell a game.

However.......the video game industry is famously misogynistic (just see how bad most women gamers are treated online once many male gamers find out they're female - why do you think so many of us go with 'male sounding' names - and how few women are employed in the industry). So until more men than currently do nowadays decry that fact, I'll be spending more of my time complaining about how women are treated in cover art and in games and in the industry itself than I will in how men are treated as, frankly, they're treated quite well.
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Lodium: Hope you dont drag it too far though.
Some females dont want sexy woman at all in games.
I do agree that there is too much sexism in games, but i also think women and men if your the opposite sex shoud be allowed to be seen as sexy.
If that made any sense.
I absolutely agree. :) There's nothing wrong with a sexy woman (or man) in a video game. Look at Lara Croft. Awesome. Because she's sexy and kicks ass!

Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not one of those 'women's libbers' type women. In fact, most of those women constantly talking about being 'degraded by men' because a guy makes a sexual joke or tells them they look pretty drive me NUTS and, I think, are a huge disservice to women being treated as equals.

Violence against women, though, in video games, when it's just for violence-sake, I don't agree with.
Post edited February 24, 2014 by Bloodygoodgames
Posted February 24, 2014
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Lodium: Hope you dont drag it too far though.
Some females dont want sexy woman at all in games.
I do agree that there is too much sexism in games, but i also think women and men if your the opposite sex shoud be allowed to be seen as sexy.
If that made any sense.
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Bloodygoodgames: I absolutely agree. :) There's nothing wrong with a sexy woman (or man) in a video game. Look at Lara Croft. Awesome. Because she's sexy and kicks ass!

Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not one of those 'women's libbers' type women. In fact, most of those women constantly talking about being 'degraded by men' because a guy makes a sexual joke or tells them they look pretty drive me NUTS and, I think, are a huge disservice to women being treated as equals.

Violence against women, though, in video games, when it's just for violence-sake, I don't agree with.
To be fair, most sexual jokes are degrading.
Post edited February 24, 2014 by HGiles
Posted February 24, 2014
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Drerhu: Like I said before, love how people dissapointed run to the even worse option (totally respectable one, but I would just stop buying in Gog and steam xD)

Funny thing, yes, and they will keep supporting places like steam : )
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Selderij: Steam never pretended to be all about "customer love". They didn't betray any values of theirs. For many people, GOG's customer-friendly image and cheaper prices were the two biggest reasons to shop here when there was a choice between GOG and Steam. Now it's apparent that GOG isn't that keen on loving its customers (in fact, they lied about it) and with regional pricing, Steam's deep discounts are always going to win out. It's not illogical at all to start favoring Steam after this shift in policy.
Well, my experience with Customer support in steam really sucked, and If I still use it, it´s just because:

A) Games that are in steam,but not in Gog.

Otherwise, I would stop playing in steam, but well, we all have our own opinion about everything : ) so I understand your different point of view.
Posted February 24, 2014
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RPGler: Can GOG please tell us the names of these publishers who are responisble for this situation?

GOG is pushed by fans to bring more games. To reach that, they have to bend for the publishers conditions. They get the games under those conditions and we are angry. We are dissatisfied for the right thing, but only against GOG is unfair.
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Bloodygoodgames: No, they don't have to bend.

Nobody has EVER said "Get these games and we'll accept regional pricing" or any other change that would go against GOG's core values.

Besides, no matter what these three games are, they're just three more games out of hundreds of other games that GOG could get instead Games which likely will be a huge disappointment for the vast majority of GOG's customers once they are announced. Games, I might add, that GOG has put their whole business future at jeopardy for.

And if they are Risen 1 and 2, or Witcher 3 or pretty much any of the others that have been mentioned already, I would laugh and then go away thinking someone at GOG has a screw loose if they would seriously chance destroying their business just to get three 'average games' (as, frankly, none mentioned so far are that spectacular).

Personally, I think this announcement has a lot more to do with just these 3 games. I think it has to do with scrapping the whole 'regional pricing' stance, so they can make more money out of future games they sell, and they're using these three games as an excuse to do it.

That's the only thing that makes any sense out of all of this. Greed.
I don't actually think it is greed.

They wanted to get more and newer games here for us on GOG.com, and they thought this would be more important to us then GOG.com sticking with their core values(flat prices being one of those).

They thought compromising their principles would be worth it.

I don't agree, I don't think it's worth it.
Posted February 24, 2014
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HGiles: To be fair, most sexual jokes are degrading.
Almost every kind of joke is degrading to someone.

Example: Did you hear about the two blondes stranded at the mall because of a power outage?

They got stuck on an escalator.

I don't think that's sexual in any way, but there might be a blonde or two that would take offense at that.

It's that way with most jokes I think. Someone is being made a joke of.
Post edited February 24, 2014 by OldFatGuy
Posted February 24, 2014
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Bloodygoodgames: I absolutely agree. :) There's nothing wrong with a sexy woman (or man) in a video game. Look at Lara Croft. Awesome. Because she's sexy and kicks ass!

Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not one of those 'women's libbers' type women. In fact, most of those women constantly talking about being 'degraded by men' because a guy makes a sexual joke or tells them they look pretty drive me NUTS and, I think, are a huge disservice to women being treated as equals.

Violence against women, though, in video games, when it's just for violence-sake, I don't agree with.
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HGiles: To be fair, most sexual jokes are degrading.
Not the ones I hear :)

Some are really funny -- even when a woman is the one being made fun of..

That's actually one thing I like about Thai women. They're extremely feminine and sweet, and many are very innocent, but they love sexual jokes and will howl laughing at them.
Posted February 24, 2014
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HGiles: To be fair, most sexual jokes are degrading.
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Bloodygoodgames: Not the ones I hear :)

Some are really funny -- even when a woman is the one being made fun of..

That's actually one thing I like about Thai women. They're extremely feminine and sweet, and many are very innocent, but they love sexual jokes and will howl laughing at them.
Different experiences then. Humor is a fine line.
Posted February 24, 2014
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I'd see this regional pricing trying to compete better on other digital distributors to get more of the more .. restrictive publisher on GOGs boat, but I do not really think it is worth risking losing the identity. Up until now, I'm sure that many people defended GOG on the illegal boards like "please don't distribute GOG games", but now ... many are very disappointed and feel ashamed for it.

But if you turn around and go back in time, there are still way many forgotten classics which can't be purchased legally anymore. Republishing them would be a win-win for GOG and the right holders who run into risks losing their copyright claim due on exercising their copyright. Search for "Sega" "Shining Force" if you want examples.

Classics to be revived and wanted to bee seen on GOG (I know there is a wishlist system, but anyway):
- Magic Candle (series + Blood Stone + Ambush at Sorinor and the Siege game)
- Stronghold (the SSI one)
- Dungeon Hack
- the old SSI AD&D games (Pool series, Krynn series, Savage Frontier series, Buck Rogers series)
- the classic Bard's Tale series + Dragon Wars
- the original King's Bounty
- the Microprose sim games (F-15 series, F-19, M1 Abrams Battle Tank, Gunship)
- the XCOM games
- the Legend text adventures (Gateway 1+2, Xanth, Eric the Unready, Spellcasting series, ...)

all these titles would be $$$ for GOG.
Posted February 24, 2014
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HGiles: To be fair, most sexual jokes are degrading.
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OldFatGuy: Almost every kind of joke is degrading to someone.

Example: Did you hear about the two blondes stranded at the mall because of a power outage?

They got stuck on an escalator.

I don't think that's sexist in any way, but there might be a blonde or that would take offense at that.

It's that way with most jokes I think. Someone is being made a joke of.
I'm British, and some of the funniest jokes I've heard have been from people slagging off the British. That's because there's usually a kernel of truth in most jokes -- even if they are directed at your own ethnicity, race, nationality, hair color, gender etc.
Posted February 24, 2014
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HGiles: To be fair, most sexual jokes are degrading.
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OldFatGuy: Almost every kind of joke is degrading to someone.

Example: Did you hear about the two blondes stranded at the mall because of a power outage?

They got stuck on an escalator.

I don't think that's sexist in any way, but there might be a blonde or that would take offense at that.

It's that way with most jokes I think. Someone is being made a joke of.
There's a difference between mocking someone for who they are and mocking them for what they did. I'm fine with Jon Stewart or Bill Cosby, who mock stupid decisions. I think it's not funny to mock someone for something about them like their gender, skin, that kind of thing. There's also a difference between joking between friends and an ad. Things that are understood as gentle teasing between friends can be very hurtful when it's broadcast on TV.
Posted February 24, 2014
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OldFatGuy: Almost every kind of joke is degrading to someone.

Example: Did you hear about the two blondes stranded at the mall because of a power outage?

They got stuck on an escalator.

I don't think that's sexist in any way, but there might be a blonde or that would take offense at that.

It's that way with most jokes I think. Someone is being made a joke of.
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Bloodygoodgames: I'm British, and some of the funniest jokes I've heard have been from people slagging off the British. That's because there's usually a kernel of truth in most jokes -- even if they are directed at your own ethnicity, race, nationality, hair color, gender etc.
Chris Rock - Black People VS. Niggaz (Bring the Pain 1996): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
Posted February 24, 2014
Somebody said that´s possible to "filter" comments and only see moderators or creators comments (like Enigmatic T)

How? : \
Posted February 24, 2014
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fluffybuffy: For the RPG, 2 of the 4 :)
Wasteland 2
Torment: Tides of Numenera
Pillars of Eternity
Divinity: Orginal Sin
They said they were AAA games not indie/kickstarted games.
Posted February 24, 2014
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OldFatGuy: Almost every kind of joke is degrading to someone.

Example: Did you hear about the two blondes stranded at the mall because of a power outage?

They got stuck on an escalator.

I don't think that's sexist in any way, but there might be a blonde or that would take offense at that.

It's that way with most jokes I think. Someone is being made a joke of.
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HGiles: There's a difference between mocking someone for who they are and mocking them for what they did. I'm fine with Jon Stewart or Bill Cosby, who mock stupid decisions. I think it's not funny to mock someone for something about them like their gender, skin, that kind of thing. There's also a difference between joking between friends and an ad. Things that are understood as gentle teasing between friends can be very hurtful when it's broadcast on TV.
LOL, you're obviously not British.

We British do nothing else but take the piss out of each other for gender, hair color, accent etc. You should watch British TV. Brutal, but absolutely hilarious.

It is actually one thing I am proud of when it comes to being British. We are a nationality that can laugh at ourselves.
Posted February 24, 2014
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Bloodygoodgames: It reminded me of that terrible movie "Boxing Helena", where a surgeon who can't get the woman he loves kidnaps her and amputates her legs and then her arms. Relegating her to not much more than breasts and a vagina.
Worse, she was psychological and emotional support for him, even after what was done to her. She was still willing to help him heal himself, and to develop as person.

This to me says far too much about what some men think of as the proper role of women - a fuckable version of Mommy without any agency of her own. The "it was all a dream" only cements what it is - an actual dream for some men.

Not this man, thank the Fates.
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