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Posted February 21, 2014
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

EDIT: Since we've answered a lot of the common questions already here (and lest you think that we've ignored you), it may be handy for you to check out the forum thread about this and search for staff answers by clicking this link here. (hat tip to user Eli who reminded us that the feature even exists. :)
Posted February 22, 2014
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Reever: Now, I hate this as much as any (most?) of you, but I remember someone make quite a few good points about regional pricing (it's more fair, when regarding purchasing power or something). My problem is, that mostly it's just misused and especially people in the Euro regions have to pay a freaking lot for a game. Fair pricing okay, but don't take advantage of it.
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bombardier: How is ti more fair that I need to pay the same game 30% more than someone in US yet my salary is 30% of the salary that same guy makes?
I was talking about the Eurozone, and even there it isn't quite fair because of disparities between income in the different countries. For countries like Croatia, Romania and Bulgaria it's even crazier, of course.
As I said, don't know the actual argument anymore.
But it actually makes sense from the point of view of an European dev (I think), those guys would probably make losses if they'd have the same standard pricing everywhere. So the EU price is probably higher and the rest of the world pays less (so they can still sell their game).
Posted February 22, 2014
I can understand why people are upset about this, but if it brings more games, devs, and publishers on board, I'm all for it. As long as you never stop being DRM-free, I will support you guys and continue to purchase all my games from GOG.
Posted February 22, 2014
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Palloka: Using my expert hacking skills, I managed to visit the GOG.com site in 2016, and this is what I have found among the news:

„Holy cow! Perserverance once again pays off! Most of you may have lost faith along the road, but for the others, we’ve got in stock something very very special in time to come. Of course, we cannot tell you the exact nature of this extraordinary news at the moment, but let’s just say there is a high probability that some of the most demanded games ever will make it to GOG.com in the following months!

But on the other hand, there is some news, that some of you may consider a bit unpleasant, so we want to tell you about it in advance. To bring you this exciting new deal, we had to pay a price higher than we would have ever wanted to pay. But in the end, we have absolutely no doubt the hassle is worth it! As our loyal customers, you know very well our opinion when it comes to DRM. We are absolutely against it. We think it has never done anything good in the world. To be honest though, the same goes for maintaining extreme positions at all costs and not being able to compromise when the circumstances are right and the final result is beneficial for everybody.

As our loyal customers, you can tell that we have quite a history. We have always tried to get you the best possible deals. We tried, we tried and if we failed, we tried again. Sure, not everything did turn well in the end, but over the course of our existence we have achieved feats deemed impossible at first sight. We brought you games that were considered by many to be long dead and make them shine once again. For every game release so far (1200+ and counting), we managed to provide exclusive treatment, that your everyday digital distributor usually doesn’t bother with: no DRM, fantastic price and a bag full of free goodies. You will understand then, that we are not exactly happy when we have to put aside our own most valued principles, even if it was in only one case.

Sadly, the case is happening right now. After lengthy and numerous negotiations we finally hit a dead end, our partner still not willing to change his mind and not willing to negotiate any further. At that moment, it was a decision between having the games here with DRM, or not having them at all in the foreseeable future (quite possibly never). So we asked ourselves: „What is more important to us? To promote our company’s ‚no DRM‘ ideology no matter what, and go through the fact that our catalogue will still miss some of the brightest stars of gaming history? Or should we take a step back, so we can make use of the possibility to finally bring our wonderful and supporting community the games they so relentlessly and repeatedly requested since the very beginning?“ Trust us, the decision really wasn’t easy. Both ways, there was some grim sacrifice to be made and we didn’t dare to make it alone. We knew we had to somehow take into account your opinion. But then, there was no doubt: the numbers in the community‘s wishlist speak quite for themselves.

Good news is, we were assured that the Lion King Copy Protection (quite a cool name for a DRM, isn’t it :)) wouldn’t be as bad as the other software on the market. It is a very modern kind of DRM, that is „more effective and less obtrusive“. Of course, it still counts as a DRM and we aren’t much proud of having to make this step, but nevertheless, we personally believe it’s worth it. Who knows? Maybe this little compromise will help us bring here even more DRM-free games in the future. Maybe even this one particular publisher, watching as the DRM-free revolution grows stronger and stronger, will later change his mind about copy protection and lend us a hand in the fight for better world, where all games are DRM-free, fantasticly priced, compatible with latest machines and packed with goodies and double portion of customer love.“

(Is it a fact? Is it a joke? Is it a dream? Is it a prophecy? Is it just a slippery slope fallacy? I don’t know, consider for yourself.)
change it to early 2015 and you are probably right
Posted February 22, 2014
You are spitting in the face to the people that were supporting you because of your core principles that were making you special over your competition!
Your principles ARE THE VERY REASON you are so successful now! And you are abandoning them? You are insane, you are going down the slippery slope :( This is the beggining of your end...
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Posted February 22, 2014
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RS1978: There's no censorship and high pricing in US, so the Americans will not be affected from the disadvantes of this decision.
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Impaler26: There are censored US versions, just have a look at Gothic 1 here on GOG. Even the german GOG version is censored AFAIK although the german retail version wasn't. This can be fixed with a patch but it still sucks IMO.
The GOG versions of Fallout 1+2 were also censored.
Wasn't Fahrenheit censored in the US, too?
Post edited February 22, 2014 by Leroux
Posted February 22, 2014
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Gersen: I hope that at least those three games are AAA big names games and that it won't ends up being three indies or three Kickstarter games that would have been released DRM-free anyway.
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Niggles: There are NO AAA Kickstarter games. None of them have the budget. Larian,Inxile,Obsidian etc are doing them as indie games (and funded goals were set as such).
Hmm, well, they might not be AAA games by today's standards, but $4M is still a lot of money (Torment: Tides of Numenera). The Obsidian project Pillars of Destiny raised almost that same amount.
So the next question is: How do you define what games are AAA and what games are not?
When the criterium is the Publisher, none of these games are AAA titles, but if you look at the team they've managed to assemble...My, oh my.
Post edited February 22, 2014 by jorlin
Posted February 22, 2014
Well then, goodbye Gog.
The reason i bought here were not that you offered world wide prizes or DRM - free games. The reason was, that you were one of the few companies that seemed to have principles. One of the few companies that i thought i could trust.
You just proved i can't. I will take a company without DRM - free practices, that treats it's customers right and stays true to it's course, like steam, over a company with many good principles, that abandons them as soon as they hit resistance any day of the week.

I know were i am with steam. Steam is conveniend, steam is easy and steam is cheap, most of the time.
You, however, have abandoned your principles and i cannot trust you to keep your other principles in the slighest. You proved that you are willing to abandon them and i won't support this.

Goodbye, Gog.
Posted February 22, 2014
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Drerhu: Sure, trading cards and badges.
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silentbob1138: And quick updates. I'm definitely jealous that my friends who chose the Steam version get Broken Sword 5 updates immediately. Gog needed 2-6 days to update the game every time so far.
(Funny thing, I prefer a manual patching to Steam updating,always collapsing my system =_= xD)
Posted February 22, 2014
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Impaler26: There are censored US versions, just have a look at Gothic 1 here on GOG. Even the german GOG version is censored AFAIK although the german retail version wasn't. This can be fixed with a patch but it still sucks IMO.
The GOG versions of Fallout 1+2 were also censored.
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Leroux: Wasn't Fahrenheit censored in the US, too?
You're partly right, but those are rare exceptions. As for the Fallouts, as far as I know that censored versions are UK ones, not the US.
Posted February 22, 2014
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Drerhu: Maybe I could bring so many "down thumbs" for what I´m going to say.

But I think most people complaining about the price region and "principles" are just greedy people than only want to spend the less money=more content.

It´s like say "I totally support Gog, but I don´t really expend much money and I wait for sales".
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silentbob1138: What makes you think that? I have no idea what most people think. I know that I wait for sales on some titles I'm only slightly interested in. But if I want a game I have no problem buying it at full price. I supported quite a few games on Kickstarter and payed much more than full price.
This is not about price, it's about Gog giving up on its promise to be fair to its customers.
I have seen much people using the "principle" sword for everything, but mostly regarding money. I´m not saying most people are like that, but I would totally believe some people (like some as said before) doesn´t give a shit of Gog, just look for the cheaper place (and Gog is sometimes that place)
Posted February 22, 2014
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silentbob1138: This is not about price, it's about Gog giving up on its promise to be fair to its customers.
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d2t: And what is "fair"? That right now I can buy most newer cheaper in every retail (and digital) store than in Poland compared to GOG, because here I have to pay US price? Maybe ton of people could actually buy DRM-free games cheaper on GOG if it actually supported local currencies?

I'm sorry but your argument is as selfish as mine... although no, not really, because if GOG is regional you pay the same price on GOG as in any other store in your region (sounds fair to me), while right now I have to pay *more* than in any other store in my region.
And soon you'll have to pay even more because you will have to pay the higher European price. Here's an example of what happened at the Humble Store after they introduced new prices. Broken Sword 5 and Broken Age both previously cost $24,99 each. That is currently about €18,20. Broken Sword 5 (without regional pricing set by the publisher) now costs €18,99. Broken Age (with regional pricing) is now €22,99.
Posted February 22, 2014
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Gersen: I hope that at least those three games are AAA big names games and that it won't ends up being three indies or three Kickstarter games that would have been released DRM-free anyway.
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Niggles: There are NO AAA Kickstarter games. None of them have the budget. Larian,Inxile,Obsidian etc are doing them as indie games (and funded goals were set as such).
The one exception to that rule thus far is Star Citizen. It only got a few million US$ during it's Kickstarter campaign, but factoring in extra goodies paid for through Paypal and such, the project is well on it's way to being a 40 million US$ project. That's within the AA region; if it keeps growing, it may yet become a AAA project.

(Single A project = > 1 million US$. Double A project = > 10 million US$. Triple A project = > 100 million US$.)
Post edited February 22, 2014 by StickOfPlywood
Posted February 22, 2014
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N3xtGeN: You are spitting in the face to the people that were supporting you because of your core principles that were making you special over your competition!
Your principles ARE THE VERY REASON you are so successful now! And you are abandoning them? You are insane, you are going down the slippery slope :( This is the beggining of your end...
How can be so much passionate and have only posted 8 times? ._.

My god..Gog is a seller, not a political party xDD
Posted February 22, 2014
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liquidsnakehpks: My real doubt is if they let in some games to have regional pricing what's stopping other publishers on gog to change their game prices instead of the current fixed price of 5.99 or 9.99 we had ?

all they have to say is "look you have allowed some games to change prices we want to do too "

you have to fair to every publisher here on gog with pricing not just a few , this will change a lot of stuff
It is indeed a rather worrying and legitimate concern, but, currently, most publishers are also refraining from bumping the price of $5.99 games to $9.99, which is what Interplay has done. Originally, most of their games were priced $5.99, but since they renewed their contract with GOG (in 2012, I think), a large chunk of their catalogue consists of $9.99 games. There really is nothing stopping companies like EA from doing the same with their contracts, and yet they don't. Maybe even they have a little bit of common sense left in them.

I would never discount the possiblity of such a thing happening, though.
Posted February 22, 2014
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this... is hilarious. It's like people are going to die if they have to pay $5 more than me for a videogame. "YOU ABANDONED YOUR PRINCIPLES!".... The great rustling of our time.
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