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Posted February 21, 2014
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

EDIT: Since we've answered a lot of the common questions already here (and lest you think that we've ignored you), it may be handy for you to check out the forum thread about this and search for staff answers by clicking this link here. (hat tip to user Eli who reminded us that the feature even exists. :)
Posted February 22, 2014
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jorlin: Link please?
Germany or Poland?
Posted February 22, 2014
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Leroux: Well, this opens the door for games like Doom, Wolfenstein 3D, and for some reason even Hexen to be released on GOG for everyone not living in Germany (as it is on Steam and I think on id Software's homepage, too), because that would be "still a game that's DRM-free in 195 other countries in the world, which seems a lot better to me than a game which is DRM-free in 0 countries." By accepting deals like that they're actually cementing these "standard" business practices they claimed to fight ("even GOG is doing it now!"). That's not the GOG I felt enthusiastic about in the past.
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Grargar: Are you sure that Doom is not available on Steam? Didn't Bethesda remove the Nazi references in Doom II's secret levels included in Doom 3 BFG Edition, to make it universally accepted?
Doom 3 is available (apparantly) uncensored on Steam for German customers. Doom, Doom 2, anything with Wolfenstein in its name, Hexen and Heretic are non-existent in the German storefront. Apart from Doom 3, id Software only offers Commander Keen and Rage to Germans. I don't even know why, because as far as I know, there was never a problem with buying Hexen and Heretic here on the retail market.
Post edited February 22, 2014 by Leroux
Posted February 22, 2014
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Niggles: any idea which one?. cant think of any AAA games due to release right now...
Wasteland 2 maybe? It's already on Steam in Early access so it might be good to go.
Posted February 22, 2014
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deonast: I could be wrong but I'm sure they advised they would show the different amounts, but you would pay in US dollars as they had no intention of implementing other currencies. I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere from TED but good luck finding it now in all these pages.

So you'd pay higher because of where you live plus the currency conversion fees, currently Australians using Paypal with their rate on currency conversion have 15% on top of the price, starts to become very expensive
I'm pretty sure the original question he answered was more interested in having the local price on the store, next to the US price, so people could compare the price difference easier to see who's 'fleecing' the regionally priced countries, but from the sound of it it's going to show local price next to local price converted into $ (the amount in $ you'll have to pay).

Either way that's before any currency conversion you need to deal with yourself of course.
Post edited February 22, 2014 by Pheace
Posted February 22, 2014
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jorlin: Link please?
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Novotnus: Germany or Poland?
Both if you can find them. I can only understand a few words of Polish, but I love the sound of your language, so melodic.
The German version would be good to get the satirical message across (to me, that is).
Post edited February 22, 2014 by jorlin
Posted February 22, 2014
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N3xtGeN: We should be given the option to vote with our wallet against the jewish publisher suits.
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Novotnus: This could use some better wording.
Something I thought too ... I mean wtf?!

Edit: Concerning the topic I don't know what to feel about it. I'm happy that they will at least at the beginning let the customer choose one free game if they buy one of these - whatever happens after that.
Post edited February 22, 2014 by althrian
Posted February 22, 2014
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Niggles: any idea which one?. cant think of any AAA games due to release right now...
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Sanjuro: Wasteland 2 maybe? It's already on Steam in Early access so it might be good to go.
Probably not.... its still in beta and heaps and heaps of bugs. Devs hasnt noted a release date even
Posted February 22, 2014
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Niggles: any idea which one?. cant think of any AAA games due to release right now...
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Sanjuro: Wasteland 2 maybe? It's already on Steam in Early access so it might be good to go.
I hope not, I kickstarted that, I would hope to think more highly of the developers, even though it wouldn't impact me personally this time around I had two digital copies in my reward one for steam and one hopefully for GOG.
Posted February 22, 2014
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jorlin: I'm talking about the new leverage that publishers will have when (re)negotiating a deal on discriminating price levels based on the precedent which was created to get more AAA games, thereby abandoning a very important principle.
I think the prices of present GOG's catalogue will be flat, but new AAA games will have regional pricing. Every one of them. I don't buy new games on Steam/GOG. Never. Poland is in EU, but Poles don't have wages as good as Western Europeans. I buy new games from local stores like CDP.pl (GOG's sister company, Polish market only) and Muve.pl.
Posted February 22, 2014
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jorlin: Both if you can find them. I can only understand a few words of Polish, but I love the sound of your language, so melodic.
The German version would be good to get the satirical message across (to me, that is).
Polish case:
Press article:
http://natemat.pl/46065,reklama-heyah-z-leninem-zostala-wstrzymana-przez-polska-telefonie-cyfrowa (you have to put it through a translator and those translators don't like Polish very much...)
The ad itself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3o3TtEuy0s

German case:
Some insight into nazi symbols:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoSwastikas
Posted February 22, 2014
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Sanjuro: Wasteland 2 maybe? It's already on Steam in Early access so it might be good to go.
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Niggles: Probably not.... its still in beta and heaps and heaps of bugs. Devs hasnt noted a release date even
Yes come to think about it you are right I didn't think it was close to release on the last updates I read. I've been behind with all the projects I backed I read about a years worth of kickstarter backer updates from 12 or so projects over the last few weeks to get up to date I think my mind is not retaining all the info.
Posted February 22, 2014
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Sanjuro: Wasteland 2 maybe? It's already on Steam in Early access so it might be good to go.
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deonast: I hope not, I kickstarted that, I would hope to think more highly of the developers, even though it wouldn't impact me personally this time around I had two digital copies in my reward one for steam and one hopefully for GOG.
Isn't Wasteland 2 one of these games which are predestined for a platform like GOG? Why do they start with Steam!? As far as I saw there was an option to choose a DRM-free copy?!?
Posted February 22, 2014
Why not hold a comprehensive and informative Democratic vote / poll to let the community decide the path forward? GOG has always done things a bit differently, after all. Most businesses (especially those in the product sales sphere) are closer to "This is what we're going to do, and our consumers/community has little or no say in it" style Despotism. GOG, however, has traditionally been a more ethically sensitive gatekeeper, in deciding which games come in and with which conditions, than other businesses of it's ilk.

Yes, CDR team, GOG is your business, your baby, your property to decide what to do with it. Yes, you have a gargantuan amount of pressure to embrace policies contradictory to your classical values. Yes, you are a for-profit business, not a public entity nor a nonprofit agency.

Even so... I believe that choosing a more democratic option to decide your fate going forward, regardless of the outcome, whether that means keeping your traditions and stagnating your future library, or letting market forces loose to increase your future library at the cost of ethics, should be a decision resting in the hands of your clients. Economic suicide, you might say? Well... GOG has taken some pretty big risks in the past, no?
Posted February 22, 2014
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deonast: I hope not, I kickstarted that, I would hope to think more highly of the developers, even though it wouldn't impact me personally this time around I had two digital copies in my reward one for steam and one hopefully for GOG.
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althrian: Isn't Wasteland 2 one of these games which are predestined for a platform like GOG? Why do they start with Steam!? As far as I saw there was an option to choose a DRM-free copy?!?
They all seem to be using steam for the beta type releases as steam gives that as an option, so the devs can just easily push updates to steam, people test and get back to them. Steam also allows orders as well based on this release, then people get the full finished game on release day.

GOG advise they have no plans of this model, hence steam first. Though a couple of devs use Desura for the same sort of thing.
Posted February 22, 2014
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Lodium: Woudnt it instead be smarter to demand of anyone that want to publish here that they follow the principles to be more liked?.
If developer signs an agreement to have their game sold in retail with any medium-sized or bigger publisher (i.e. one that can guarantee some decent sales), this always had a clause that digital price cannot undercut the retail prices of that game in that region... Even CDPRED, parent company of GOG could not avoid this with TW2 and was sued together with GOG - it was pretty big thing in media 3 years ago. I don't remember how big was the fine.

So, yes, GOG can demand what you're saying all they want, but it effectively means that all game developers would have to stop releasing games in retail whatsoever (no small/medium dev can self publish worldwide in retail), only so that GOG could get their "flat price" worldwide. And suddenly your argument stops making sense - GOG is maybe #2 in digital, but still behind Steam and way behind retail and no developer will risk majority (90%? 95%?) of their sales just for GOG and us here.

You had your flat prices because classics are not available in retail. Just as most of self published indie games. For newer titles you can either have local prices or flat price of the most expensive version (australian one I presume) which is even more ridiculous.

But yes - GOG could say no to such devs. The problem is that I see more and more indie devs published by other companies with local prices - plus their versions are DRM-free anyway. And I also see previously exclusive to GOG classic games available on Steam and in other places (often as a 1:1 copy of GOG version, without any DRM whatsoever). So to me it seems number of advantages GOG had is shrinking... a lot.
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