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General discussion[Android] EA/Chillingo sale on Google Play(28 posts)(28 posts)
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Posted October 10, 2015
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/09/google-play-store-promotion-offers-up-13-ea-and-chillingo-games-for-just-10-cents-each-including-monopoly-nfs-most-wanted-power-ping-pong-and-more/

Every game on this sale goes for 10 cents in select regions. I only bought Need for Speed Most Wanted, Power Ping Pong and Bloodstroke. I think Bloodstroke a good idea, and I liked NFS when I played it on my phone (it has an authorization in the beginning though, ouch). Power Ping Pong however is the new thing.

What do you think of the deal?
Posted October 10, 2015
Dead Space is really good. Iffy controls, like all action games on devices without physical input devices, but there's a bit in one early level that probably scared me more than anything in the 'proper' Dead Space games. Really cool insanity effects, and a neat little side-story to DS2.

Definitely worth ten cents if you're at all interested in DS. Or if you like Mass Effect and enjoyed Infiltrator, because they're pretty much reskins of the same engine.
Posted October 10, 2015
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BlackMageJ: Dead Space is really good. Iffy controls, like all action games on devices without physical input devices, but there's a bit in one early level that probably scared me more than anything in the 'proper' Dead Space games. Really cool insanity effects, and a neat little side-story to DS2.

Definitely worth ten cents if you're at all interested in DS. Or if you like Mass Effect and enjoyed Infiltrator, because they're pretty much reskins of the same engine.
I already have Dead Space, the PC and Android versions, I better actually play the series though as opposed to keep it until that day comes when I don't play it.
Posted October 10, 2015
Nowadays you want to be careful when buying Android games. They may be on sales, but they have in-app purchases (IAP) that nickle-and-dime customers, so you would end up spending more with those games. Both Need for Speed and Bloodstroke have IAP.

Three or four years ago I bought shitloads of games on Android. Now I have stopped completely due to IAP, which has become endemic on Android and is in almost every new game. If a game has an Android version and a PC one, you always want to go for the PC version: often, the Android version would have IAP but the PC one would not. The PC version may have a higher price tag out-front, but you still save money in the long run by avoiding the IAP.
Post edited October 10, 2015 by ktchong
Posted October 10, 2015
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ktchong: Nowadays you want to be careful when buying Android games. They may be on sales, but they have in-app purchases (IAP) that nickle-and-dime customers, so you would end up spending more with those games. Both Need for Speed and Bloodstroke have IAP.

Three or four years ago I bought shitloads of games on Android. Now I have stopped completely due to IAP, which has become endemic on Android and is in almost every new game. If a game has an Android version and a PC one, you always want to go for the PC version: often, the Android version would have IAP but the PC one would not. The PC version may have a higher price tag out-front, but you still save money in the long run by avoiding the IAP.
Nah. I'll pick the Android version of any game over a PC version.
Come to think of it, the games that have IAPs are a bit varied. Some like to shove it in your face (Candy Crush Saga), some aren't obnoxious with it (Jetpack Joyride) some don't even have them (Power Ping Pong).

As for Need for Speed, I believe one guy said its only there if you try to buy a car but don't have the money for it. As for Bloodstroke, I didn't see when the IAP gets into action yet.

PC games have DRM, Android has IAP in a few certain paid apps. Would rather get into the IAPs bandwagon than pay for a DRM'd game. And if the IAPs are just unlocks to more content and nothing more, that makes up for the lower price of the app. PC games nickel and dime customers with DRM, but IAP is the least of evils.
Posted October 10, 2015
Android games DO have DRM. Google Play is the DRM. If you remove or disable Google Play, the apps/games you bought from Google Play will stop running. If you buy an app/game from Amazon and you remove or disable the Amazon app, that app/game will stop running - i.e., the Amazon app is the DRM. Try it.
Post edited October 10, 2015 by ktchong
Posted October 10, 2015
There are a few drm free stores, your posting on one now. Personally I avoid that type of thing. Even the name chillingo screams baseball caps and plastic tracksuits. That and I don't have time to filter the million tons of shit pushed out to the stores each day. Just my opinion.
Posted October 10, 2015
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ktchong: Android games DO have DRM. Google Play is the DRM. If you remove or disable Google Play, the apps/games you bought from Google Play will stop running. If you buy an app/game from Amazon and you remove or disable the Amazon app, that app/game will stop running - i.e., the Amazon app is the DRM. Try it.
FEW do. Pretty sure that Google Play is one heck of an onobtrusive thing. I can install games I own from Google Play on a device without my Google account on it! I'll test to see if Google Play games cannot run without Google Play, but in the very end, Google Play is a built-in system app, installed with every Android phone that is concentrated on the Android Google has (read: not Amazon's nor Microsoft's nor whatever.), and NOT an external program I have to download just to play games.

This is true however for Amazon Appstore games. I will however see to it that a Google Play-less Android runs or does not run Google Play APKs.
Posted October 10, 2015
If there was a way to legally backup the paid APK's from Google Play this would be worth it. They aren't even worth the 10c though with that DRM.
Posted October 10, 2015
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PookaMustard: FEW do. Pretty sure that Google Play is one heck of an onobtrusive thing. I can install games I own from Google Play on a device without my Google account on it! I'll test to see if Google Play games cannot run without Google Play, but in the very end, Google Play is a built-in system app, installed with every Android phone that is concentrated on the Android Google has (read: not Amazon's nor Microsoft's nor whatever.), and NOT an external program I have to download just to play games.

This is true however for Amazon Appstore games. I will however see to it that a Google Play-less Android runs or does not run Google Play APKs.
The Google Play "service" app may also be the DRM.

A good example of why you should buy the PC version of a game over the Android version is Warhammer Quest. I recently bought Warhammer Quest Deluxe for Steam for less than $10. The Deluxe version includes all the downloadable contents and expansions. On the other hand, the Deluxe version is not even available for the Android or iOS version; you would have to pay for the DLC and expansions individually, which add up to way more than just $10. The PC version also has a shortcut to give you unlimited gold (which is a cheat.) That cheat is not available on the Android or iOS version - because buying gold is actually an IAP.
Post edited October 10, 2015 by ktchong
Posted October 10, 2015
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PookaMustard: FEW do. Pretty sure that Google Play is one heck of an onobtrusive thing. I can install games I own from Google Play on a device without my Google account on it! I'll test to see if Google Play games cannot run without Google Play, but in the very end, Google Play is a built-in system app, installed with every Android phone that is concentrated on the Android Google has (read: not Amazon's nor Microsoft's nor whatever.), and NOT an external program I have to download just to play games.

This is true however for Amazon Appstore games. I will however see to it that a Google Play-less Android runs or does not run Google Play APKs.
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ktchong: The Google Play "service" app may also be the DRM.

A good example of why you should buy the PC version of a game over the Android version is Warhammer Quest. I recently bought Warhammer Quest Deluxe for Steam for less than $10. The Deluxe version includes all the downloadable contents and expansions. On the other hand, the Deluxe version is not even available for the Android or iOS version; you would have to pay for the DLC and expansions individually, which add up to way more than just $10.
No, I don't give two damns about your Steam games. They're DRM-full that even if they included more extras than any DRM-free version will ever have, I'll pass gladly the DRM'd version and go for the DRM-free one. Getting the Android version then buying the expansions is a much better idea in the end than dealing with DRM.

Even then, that service is pre-installed if the phone has Google on it. Even then, I can play my games off Google Play without needing a Google account to begin with.
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Ganni1987: If there was a way to legally backup the paid APK's from Google Play this would be worth it. They aren't even worth the 10c though with that DRM.
In which way do you want to backup the APKs? Do you want to backup the APKs for later reinstallation and stuff? If so, there's tons of programs that do just that. May I mention Xplore? This app can copy app APKs to wherever you want for later reinstallation.

If you mean app and data, you might want to use Titanium Backup (make sure you're rooted first) as it allows you to back up both. That is unless you have Android Marshmallow. I heard they have a feature that uploads your application's data into Google Drive for later usage.
Post edited October 10, 2015 by PookaMustard
Posted October 10, 2015
Here is another example: Knights of Pen and Paper +1. PC has a "Deluxier" version with all the IAP contents unlocked and included. I have both the Humble Bundle and the Steam version. Android and iOS do NOT offer the Deluxier version, at all - you would have to pay for the IAP contents individually, which would become more expensive than the PC version.

If you have a problem with Steam/DRM but not IAP, than it's your pejorative. Personally, I have no had any problem with Steam or DRM. I take HUGE issues with IAP.

Finally, stop deluding yourself into thinking Android games do not have DRM/have "less" DRM: if a game has IAP, it most certainly also has DRM. How else do you think the game keep track of IAP?
Post edited October 10, 2015 by ktchong
Posted October 10, 2015
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ktchong: Here is another example: Knights of Pen and Paper +1. PC has a "Deluxier" version with all the IAP contents unlocked and included. I have both the Humble Bundle and the Steam version. The Android or iOS the Deluxier version - you would have to pay for the IAP contents individually, which would become more expensive than the PC version.
CHECKMATE.

Behold Knights of Pen and Paper +1 on Amazon Underground:
http://www.amazon.com/Knights-of-Pen-Paper-1/dp/B011M0NL0M

You'll notice the app in question has a "Actually Free" on the icon. Actually Free in Amazon Underground terms means the game itself is free (the initial $5 purchase) and the IAPs ARE FREE. All what's left is for you to click on them and 'buy' them for nothingness. The downside is that you need the Amazon app to play it as the "Actually Free" part is given to you by Amazon paying developers for every minute you play.

If you have a problem with Steam/DRM but not IAP, than it's your pejorative. Personally, I have no problem with Steam or DRM. I take HUGE issues with IAP.
Good! However, while IAPs never even made me cry, unless they're on a Candy Crush Saga level, DRM did. For 5 months, I've been locked out of my games because I lost my internet. And you think I'll ever agree to buying games at full price then losing them because I didn't have internet?

And, don't fool yourself: if a game has IAP, it most certainly also has DRM. How else do you think the game could keep track of IAP?
CHECKMATE LEVEL 2!

You just mentioned an app that is DRM-free and has IAPs. Knights of Pen and Paper +1 from Humble Bundle is DRM-free, and is provided as an APK file, yet also includes IAPs
Post edited October 10, 2015 by PookaMustard
Posted October 10, 2015
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Ganni1987: If there was a way to legally backup the paid APK's from Google Play this would be worth it. They aren't even worth the 10c though with that DRM.
Do you want to play the games right now? If you do, the DRM doesn't reduce its worth much unless it prevents you from doing that. If not, then buying them right now is irrelevant.
Posted October 10, 2015
Amazon Underground is a special case. It did not even exist a couple months ago. Amazon made special arrangements with the game developer/publisher for limited number of specific titles. Amazon has been making efforts to increase market share (vs Google Play) by giving away free apps and IAP (but with limited success; honestly I only get free apps from Amazon, I would never buy an Android app from Amazon due to a variety of reasons - one of them being the annoying Amazon app keeps launching on its own, running in background and sending my user usage data to Amazon; the other being Android apps on Amazon rarely if ever gets updated.)

It does not change the fact that, if you buy the game on Google Play, the standard vendor of Android apps, the game is still saddled with IAP. (And when I buy an Android app, I always get the Google Play version because I know it will get timely updates and patches - unlike the Amazon or Humble Bundle versions that rarely gets any update/patch.) The games does have IAP, but in this case Amazon somehow pays for the IAP or covers the IAP for you. Which does NOT apply to most titles.

The Humble Bundle version of Knights of Pen and Paper +1, the Standard and Deluxier edition, are NOT available for Android. They are only available for Steam, Windows, Mac and Linux. So... checkmate?

Warhammer Quest Deluxe still applies.... so do a whole lot of titles.
Post edited October 10, 2015 by ktchong
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