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Posted July 30, 2019
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Demix1: Fortunatelly I was not born in the US. I'm from Europe and I fished my studies 4 years ago. I had worked all the time since a started high school excepting the 4th year. Then I had to take a loan to pay my study contract. This was the only time. Living in Europe is much more cheaper, if you find a job you're able to live by your own. I remember that back then it was very stressful to meet with the members of the bank. Now you can do all this online, from home and get the money fast as I found out on lainaailmanvakuuksia
More spam necro. Looks like a sock party. lol
Posted July 30, 2019
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catpower1980: While I'm waiting for an Amazon package, I've read some gamedev threads and stumbled upon the usual "which university should I choose?"
https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/3rup0v/opinion_on_full_sail_or_the_art_institute/

Now, what always baffles me in this type of topic are the amount of student loan debts (like 100K$) and how it seems like completely normal in general in USA. So for the fellow Americans: did you graduate after high school? Got in debt? And how much (if it's not too intrusive)? Would you rather have done differently?
I recommend most people go to a technical school or similar and learn a trade rather than go to college(which are mostly left leaning indoctrination centers disguised as halls of learning nowadays where people go to live responsibility free for 4+ years).
Posted June 10, 2020
FFS!

Somebody please lock down this spam magnet!
Posted June 11, 2020
As others have said, the debt isn't the real problem. If you want to be a doctor and take out $100k in debt to do it, you're still well ahead of where you'd be otherwise. The problem is people taking out massive loans to get liberal arts degrees that get them nothing, then ending up working for the same wages they would have gotten anyway. Colleges push these liberal arts degrees as if they're worthwhile, and they're not.
Posted June 11, 2020
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StingingVelvet: As others have said, the debt isn't the real problem. If you want to be a doctor and take out $100k in debt to do it, you're still well ahead of where you'd be otherwise. The problem is people taking out massive loans to get liberal arts degrees that get them nothing, then ending up working for the same wages they would have gotten anyway. Colleges push these liberal arts degrees as if they're worthwhile, and they're not.
I have a General Studies degree and it is indeed worthless, unless I go back to school and get a master's or doctorate so I can teach.

General Studies is the equivalent of liberal arts, but I believe I took another history class instead of an "arts" class. Or maybe an extra English class. It's been 13 years, so I don't remember.

Personally, I didn't take out debt to get my degree, because I was poor enough that I got tuition covered by the government. I think they cut the program a lot in recent years, but you used to be able to get your tuition covered pretty easily in most states, as long as you were a resident. Going for an advanced degree is another story, but most people these days should be going for a technical degree, which is the equivalent of an associate's.

Weird how in the time since I became a teenager, the great college scam was pushed repeatedly on the US population, and nowadays people are hungry for contractors and blue collar workers to run the factories. Full circle, indeed.
Posted June 11, 2020
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CymTyr: I have a General Studies degree and it is indeed worthless, unless I go back to school and get a master's or doctorate so I can teach.

General Studies is the equivalent of liberal arts, but I believe I took another history class instead of an "arts" class. Or maybe an extra English class. It's been 13 years, so I don't remember.
Liberal arts to me means English, Sociology, African American Studies, Literature, etc. Most colleges in my experience lump them all under the liberal arts heading. They're all pretty much worthless as 4 year degrees, and very few people are getting them on route to a masters. You'd be way better off working 4 years at an entry level position on your way to management. It's a complete scam.
Posted June 11, 2020
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StingingVelvet: Liberal arts to me means English, Sociology, African American Studies, Literature, etc. Most colleges in my experience lump them all under the liberal arts heading. They're all pretty much worthless as 4 year degrees, and very few people are getting them on route to a masters. You'd be way better off working 4 years at an entry level position on your way to management. It's a complete scam.
Hey, now you're being negative. I heard they're going to open up tons of English factories and Sociology factories really soon. The demand is through the roof I tell ya!
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Posted June 12, 2020
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CymTyr: I have a General Studies degree and it is indeed worthless, unless I go back to school and get a master's or doctorate so I can teach.

General Studies is the equivalent of liberal arts, but I believe I took another history class instead of an "arts" class. Or maybe an extra English class. It's been 13 years, so I don't remember.
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StingingVelvet: Liberal arts to me means English, Sociology, African American Studies, Literature, etc. Most colleges in my experience lump them all under the liberal arts heading. They're all pretty much worthless as 4 year degrees, and very few people are getting them on route to a masters. You'd be way better off working 4 years at an entry level position on your way to management. It's a complete scam.
Yeah no. I'm good. I work in public service of sorts by being a provider of home care. I get paid more than I made in retail, and the only requirement is to respect the individuals, listen to them, care for them, and be a decent human being. Fortunately, I can do all of those things and am told by others I'm fairly decent ;)

I'm never going back to school unless it's for a technical degree.
Posted December 04, 2023
Many folks are now reconsidering the traditional college path and exploring technical degrees or skilled trades.
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