It does seem like a big smash on the head of nvidia if even their own line of cards that don't support DLLS can await pretty steep performance gains from using this amd piece of love.

I just finished watching a presentation sharing that the most used card on steam, the 1060 will be able to provide some very nice results on modern time games in a 2k resolution....

While i don't have a lot of games that would actually need this software i do imagine using this software myself to see if i'd be able to get some nicer imagery or even lowers performance drains ( less heat, less noise ) during the hot summer months that are almost upon us.

All in all it seems that the lower tier generations await an uplift ( here i envision kids from third world countries, don't sue me... please ) and even more gamers that will be tied to their pc's for hours at a time then previously thought possible.

Would you use this new piece of software ?

I actually don't have any clue on how the finished product will look and, if we will have to wait until developers provide some patch making this software workeable for their line of products.

AMD FSR upscaling technology, the beginning of the end or a viable solution to cut off the head of the monolithic capitalistic pig the whole pc world seemed to be turning into at the end of this long period of sickness and corporate abuse

Probably talking about AMD FidelityFX

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/what-is-amd-fidelityfx-super-resolution/

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/radeon-software-fidelityfx

There's no gamechanger. He's referring to the AMD's FSR, which is supposed to do something similar to Nvidia's DLSS, but without being locked to Nvidia's tensor cores. Basically a free open-source solution to Nvidia's proprietary hardware solution. As it happened with freesync/gsync, at launch it will be nowhere near as good as Nvidia's solution, then 1-2 years later it will be good enough that even Nvidia will adopt it, and that will be that for DLSS.

To keep it short, people believe the marketing and get hyped, then they are disillusioned with reality and get angry, then they move to some other new announcement that promises "gamechanging" results.

I thought the gamechanger was going to be V-Cache? Apparently they can now do 3D stacking of cache on their CPUs, tripling the amount. That would be pretty good for Dwarf Fortress and games in general.

Not really. AMD are to be praised for not locking it to certain hardware, but at the end of the day both this and nVidia's DLSS are just fancier "under-render then upscale whilst faking detail" algorithms aimed mostly at those who rushed to buy 4k monitors (because last gen console titles ran fine on them when they bought it) and they've since inevitably found out that the newer gen AAA console ports + Ray Tracing performance hog are massively slowing frame-rates down again during the same period as GPU shortages + price hikes prevent people from buying matching flagship GPU's for acceptable frame-rates.

It also looks like AMD suffers from the same thing nVidia's DLSS does in being game specific. AMD's FSR page boasts 40 games, of which nearly all are DRM'd (and thus dead to me), and it's literally Cyberpunk 2077, The Medium, Serious Sam 4, Horizon Zero Dawn, and Terminator Resistance that are supported on GOG. Five games is not exactly a game changer (neither is nVidia's DLSS for the same reason). To me a real "game-changer" is something like Freesync / Variable Refresh Rate that works on thousands of DX9-12 / OpenGL / Vulkan games without having to be individually coded for each one, and personally I won't be using this.

Amusingly there are quite a few games on GOG that use DLSS now, we'll see about FSR. VSR isn't all that impressive and higher levels of it distorts the image quite a bit, for me DLSS is more useful at this point but it might change in the future.

that is maybe a bit outside the reality, i'm sure many amd and console users will be very happy with the new results this function will deliver at a certain point amongst other items yes, AMD is about to destroy both Intel AND Nvidia

Could I have some of the drugs you are on? If AMD had anything of the sort it would would be main page news on every site this side of the next coming. I have no personal opinion of amd, never really used them, but have a moment,

I'd agree that FSR at launch will be nowhere near as good as DLSS - but unlike with gsync/freesync, I don't think the AMD solution is going to get close unless they drive it with deep learning (which given their compute cores, they could try on those).

FSR is basically a simple spatial upscaler - no temporal feedback loop to drive image quality. The difference is a bit like resizing something in photoshop vs using Gigapixel AI.

Still, hopefully next generation might bring an AI upscaler to AMD cards, as it would be good to increase GPU competition (and hopefully drive down prices - although crypto isn't helping in that respect).

Some youtube claims are a litle bit on the clickbaity side.

If AMD will launch a gamechanger product you can be certain it will be pricechanging as well.

Edit: AMD would be gamechanger if finally able to launch the Windows control panel to Linux distro's. Or maybe powering a affordable SteamPal.

I feel like I'm in an alternative universe for thinking DLSS looks pretty crappy. I mean I used it in Cyberpunk because there was no way to get 60fps without it really, but it definitely looks far worse than native resolution. All the people who think it looks as good or better and call it a "free framerate boost" just baffle me.

That said, a lot of games use bad TAA that barely looks any better even at native resolution.

I had my best result in control i think, playing at a resolution of 17xx x 89x which translates quite well towards 2k. Its also the only game that uses such defined settings, with most you only can choose a quality grade slider which i suppose translates to 640 x 480, 1280 x 768 , 1600 x 1200 , 1920 x 1080 though of course with as relation your native resolution , like if you play on 4k and have 4 quality options and you play on 2k or even 1080p and you still have 4 quality options it would be weird to presume that there is either not a dynamic process at work or that actually you are being framed in some other way .. soo

therefore i sincerely belief control offers the best rewarding ui implementation of the dlss scheme

i mean of course i can notice that i can play crysis on higher settings with DLSS but you know, it most of the time reeks of software stuff then actual hardware stuff

What results, we only saw a couple of screenshots? Why are you so hyped about it, when nobody really knows anything about it? The reality is that people getting hyped about something that isn't out yet, doesn't make it great. As I said, 1-2 years from now it might be, but at release I foresee thousands of threads where people call out the "lies of AMD".

Well i'm not exactly hyped about this new function, i am one to embrace new features that at least try to increase the longevity of old hardware and decrease the green imprint while trying to retain a quality level that most gamers can appreciate