Posted April 15, 2018

PainOfSalvation
Elleshar
Registered: Mar 2013
From Spain

Themken
Old user
Registered: Nov 2011
From Other
Posted April 15, 2018
So, clearly improved but not quite by as much as I hoped for. The price reflects this too with the new top model costing a lot less than the 1800X at its release more than a year ago ($329 with cooler included vs $499 no cooler included).
Looking forward to more test results next week.
Looking forward to someone buying me a system with one of the mid models... but I will gladly accept a used Intel 2600K or later.
Looking forward to more test results next week.
Looking forward to someone buying me a system with one of the mid models... but I will gladly accept a used Intel 2600K or later.

PainOfSalvation
Elleshar
Registered: Mar 2013
From Spain
Posted April 15, 2018
There are rumors saying AMD saved 2800X model for Intel's response to Ryzen 2nd gen but i doubt it. :p

qwixter
Famous Titles
Registered: Mar 2010
From United States
Posted April 15, 2018
Using 4k and ultra 4k for cpu benchmarks is a bit "silly" to put it nicely. It did nicely on the synthetics that can utilize all cores. Basically, it's the same shtick as when ryzen was released. This does look like it will make amd more competitive. I did not buy Ryzen last year when I upgraded because the memory controller looked too finicky. I suspect that is still true with this release. If Amd had released this version, I might have taken a shot on the 2700x though last year.

Phasmid
New User
Registered: Apr 2012
From New Zealand
Posted April 16, 2018
They used a 1070 as well. That reflects real world usage far better than most tests do, but also reflects that most of the time it's the graphics card that limits performance, not the CPU. The more usual approach is to use a 1080Ti and run games at low detail low res to make the CPU bottleneck, while that tests the CPU performance it isn't a real world scenario. What it mostly illustrates is that a tier up on GPU is far more important to games than a tier up on CPU.
The memory issues were fixed a few months after release, they were BIOS issues rather than intrinsic ones.
PainOfSalvation: There are rumors saying AMD saved 2800X model for Intel's response to Ryzen 2nd gen but i doubt it. :p 2800X equivalents may be reserved for 'Threadripper 2' as they need very strong binning. 1800X was also the worst price performance Ryzen option by far, esxpecially since it needed a cooler and most people buying a cooler would overclock at which point it's barely better than a far cheaper 1700.
I'm not expecting any Intel response to Ryzen2 personally, it isn't a big enough performance jump. And Intel certainly seems to be having issues with their 10nm process which just leaves adding cores to Coffeelake as an immediate counter.
The memory issues were fixed a few months after release, they were BIOS issues rather than intrinsic ones.

I'm not expecting any Intel response to Ryzen2 personally, it isn't a big enough performance jump. And Intel certainly seems to be having issues with their 10nm process which just leaves adding cores to Coffeelake as an immediate counter.

DubConqueror
proud to be a social jus- tice warrior
Registered: Jun 2010
From Netherlands
Posted April 19, 2018
The Ryzen 5 2600 and 2600X and Ryzen 7 2700 and 2700X got released today.
Reviews:
Anandtech: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12625/amd-second-generation-ryzen-7-2700x-2700-ryzen-5-2600x-2600
Guru3D: http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-5-2600x-review,1.html
Tom's Hardware: https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-review,review-34307.html
I'm thinking of getting a 2600.
Reviews:
Anandtech: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12625/amd-second-generation-ryzen-7-2700x-2700-ryzen-5-2600x-2600
Guru3D: http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-5-2600x-review,1.html
Tom's Hardware: https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-review,review-34307.html
I'm thinking of getting a 2600.
Post edited April 19, 2018 by DubConqueror

ariaspi
New Old User
Registered: Oct 2014
From Romania
Posted April 19, 2018
Yay! Almost forgot today is the big day!
AMDay :D
AMDay :D

liquidsnakehpks
sons of liberty
Registered: Dec 2009
From India
Posted April 19, 2018
Kinda feeling sad that the person who made this thread is not here to see this rip fishbaits

vidsgame
Lost in a Cloud
Registered: Nov 2014
From United States

Acriz
New User
Registered: Aug 2013
From Germany
Posted April 30, 2018



vidsgame
Lost in a Cloud
Registered: Nov 2014
From United States
Posted April 30, 2018
Wow. Had no idea. Thank you for the information. From the interactions I had with him on this very thread, he was really helpful and a great conversationalist. I could almost imagine the excitement he would've had for the 2nd generation of Ryzen.

hummer010
Crazy Penguin
Registered: Dec 2012
From Canada
Posted May 25, 2018
Well, I finally pulled the trigger on a Ryzen / Vega based laptop. It's been a long time coming.
I picked up an HP Envy x360 - 15" lappy with a 5-2500u. The model I picked up has 8GB of RAM (2x4GB so Dual Channel!), and a 1TB spinny drive. I've already added a 500GB nvme drive I had already picked up. It's a little bigger and heavier than I wanted - it replaces a 13" laptop, but I just couldn't find an acceptable Ryzen setup in a 13-14" size. They all had soldered and/or single channel RAM, or were too limited in the hard drive options.
So far, I'm really happy with it. It's been 8 years of having nVidia optimus laptops, so there's a bit of learning curve getting Linux setup on it, and the Ryzen mobile support isn't perfect yet.
I picked up an HP Envy x360 - 15" lappy with a 5-2500u. The model I picked up has 8GB of RAM (2x4GB so Dual Channel!), and a 1TB spinny drive. I've already added a 500GB nvme drive I had already picked up. It's a little bigger and heavier than I wanted - it replaces a 13" laptop, but I just couldn't find an acceptable Ryzen setup in a 13-14" size. They all had soldered and/or single channel RAM, or were too limited in the hard drive options.
So far, I'm really happy with it. It's been 8 years of having nVidia optimus laptops, so there's a bit of learning curve getting Linux setup on it, and the Ryzen mobile support isn't perfect yet.

PainOfSalvation
Elleshar
Registered: Mar 2013
From Spain

hummer010
Crazy Penguin
Registered: Dec 2012
From Canada
Posted May 25, 2018

The audio is going to bad - it's a laptop! I don't generally ever use the speakers on my laptops. If I want sound, it's through headphones.
The battery, so far, is much better than my old laptop, which was notoriously bad, even new, and is now much worse five years later.
The display was the thing I was most concerned about, and it isn't nearly as bad the reviews had me believe. I don't love how reflective it is, and it's taking some getting used to the resolution, everything is a bit bigger! (same resolution as my old laptop, but 13.3" vs 15.6"). It is much brighter than I expected based on the reviews.

vidsgame
Lost in a Cloud
Registered: Nov 2014
From United States
Posted May 25, 2018


The audio is going to bad - it's a laptop! I don't generally ever use the speakers on my laptops. If I want sound, it's through headphones.
The battery, so far, is much better than my old laptop, which was notoriously bad, even new, and is now much worse five years later.
The display was the thing I was most concerned about, and it isn't nearly as bad the reviews had me believe. I don't love how reflective it is, and it's taking some getting used to the resolution, everything is a bit bigger! (same resolution as my old laptop, but 13.3" vs 15.6"). It is much brighter than I expected based on the reviews.
So overall, I consider it to be a good overall laptop as I've had this one and an older model and both have performed above expectations.