Posted February 23, 2017
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Posted February 23, 2017
immi101: the question is, why would AMD stop using it?
People want to stream multimedia contents in 4k, nobody cares about DRM free hardware. Sadly.
If that's important to you, stop buying (new) x86 hardware.
Last time I checked TrustZone was only in their GFX chips, has it reached the systems CPU at some point? People want to stream multimedia contents in 4k, nobody cares about DRM free hardware. Sadly.
If that's important to you, stop buying (new) x86 hardware.
It has been many years since I bought a computer but actually wanted to upgrade this year, not so sure if I want to when there's even more DRM in it now.
Post edited February 23, 2017 by Klumpen0815
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Posted February 23, 2017
I wonder when they got the review copies. I'm assuming one week, but there are rumors that many outlets had it for much longer.
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Posted February 23, 2017
immi101: the question is, why would AMD stop using it?
People want to stream multimedia contents in 4k, nobody cares about DRM free hardware. Sadly.
If that's important to you, stop buying (new) x86 hardware.
Klumpen0815: Last time I checked TrustZone was only in their GFX chips, has it reached the systems CPU at some point People want to stream multimedia contents in 4k, nobody cares about DRM free hardware. Sadly.
If that's important to you, stop buying (new) x86 hardware.
It has been many years since I bought a computer but actually wanted to upgrade this year, not so sure if I want to when there's even more DRM in it now.
AMD Platform Security Processor (PSP) #amdpsp
This is basically AMD's own version of the Intel Management Engine. It has all of the same basic security and freedom issues, although the implementation is wildly different.
The Platform Security Processor (PSP) is built in on all Family 16h + systems (basically anything post-2013),
For a company to go from being so good, to so bad, in just 3 years, shows that something is seriously wrong with AMD. Like Intel, they do not deserve your money.
Given the current state of Intel hardware with the Management Engine, it is our opinion that all performant x86 hardware newer than the AMD Family 15h CPUs (on AMD's side) or anything post-2009 on Intel's side is defective by design and cannot safely be used to store, transmit, or process sensitive data.
Post edited February 23, 2017 by immi101
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Posted February 23, 2017
My first computer was in 2004, had an AMD Athlon 64, 1 gig ram, 256 MB ATI X800 card (replaced a few years later by an nVidia 7600 GT, which I greatly disliked); first week I got it I spent many hours at my grandparents playing Pirates of the Caribbean 2003 PC game and Tomb Raider Anniversary, had DOOM 3 via my uncle also but got a bit too creeped out to go to far. :P
Anyway, hope AMD's new stuff is great, mainly for the competition angle.
Anyway, hope AMD's new stuff is great, mainly for the competition angle.
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Posted February 23, 2017
Klumpen0815: Last time I checked TrustZone was only in their GFX chips, has it reached the systems CPU at some point
It has been many years since I bought a computer but actually wanted to upgrade this year, not so sure if I want to when there's even more DRM in it now.
immi101: https://libreboot.org/faq/#amd It has been many years since I bought a computer but actually wanted to upgrade this year, not so sure if I want to when there's even more DRM in it now.
AMD Platform Security Processor (PSP) #amdpsp
This is basically AMD's own version of the Intel Management Engine. It has all of the same basic security and freedom issues, although the implementation is wildly different.
The Platform Security Processor (PSP) is built in on all Family 16h + systems (basically anything post-2013),
For a company to go from being so good, to so bad, in just 3 years, shows that something is seriously wrong with AMD. Like Intel, they do not deserve your money.
Given the current state of Intel hardware with the Management Engine, it is our opinion that all performant x86 hardware newer than the AMD Family 15h CPUs (on AMD's side) or anything post-2009 on Intel's side is defective by design and cannot safely be used to store, transmit, or process sensitive data.
Post edited February 23, 2017 by richlind33
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Posted February 23, 2017
Klumpen0815: Last time I checked TrustZone was only in their GFX chips, has it reached the systems CPU at some point?
It has been many years since I bought a computer but actually wanted to upgrade this year, not so sure if I want to when there's even more DRM in it now.
immi101: https://libreboot.org/faq/#amd It has been many years since I bought a computer but actually wanted to upgrade this year, not so sure if I want to when there's even more DRM in it now.
AMD Platform Security Processor (PSP) #amdpsp
This is basically AMD's own version of the Intel Management Engine. It has all of the same basic security and freedom issues, although the implementation is wildly different.
The Platform Security Processor (PSP) is built in on all Family 16h + systems (basically anything post-2013),
For a company to go from being so good, to so bad, in just 3 years, shows that something is seriously wrong with AMD. Like Intel, they do not deserve your money.
Given the current state of Intel hardware with the Management Engine, it is our opinion that all performant x86 hardware newer than the AMD Family 15h CPUs (on AMD's side) or anything post-2009 on Intel's side is defective by design and cannot safely be used to store, transmit, or process sensitive data.
Do you know of any hardware combination without this BS that is able to run current DRM-free Linux games at 60fps maxed out and can handle WinXP gaming in a virtual system?
I don't care for the latest hardware hungry Windows games at all so there must be something...
Post edited February 23, 2017 by Klumpen0815
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Posted February 23, 2017
Completely forgot to link the AMD talk about the release, oopsies!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v44wWAOHn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v44wWAOHn8
richlind33
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Posted February 23, 2017
immi101: https://libreboot.org/faq/#amd
conclusio
that being said, I haven't seen any specific information wrt that topic for the Ryzen processors. But it seems very unlikely that AMD would stop following in Intels footsteps here.
Klumpen0815: This is a very sad state of affairs. conclusio
that being said, I haven't seen any specific information wrt that topic for the Ryzen processors. But it seems very unlikely that AMD would stop following in Intels footsteps here.
Do you know of any hardware combination without this BS that is able to run current DRM-free Linux games at 60fps maxed out and can handle WinXP gaming in a virtual system?
I don't care for the latest hardware hungry Windows games at all so there must be something...
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Posted February 23, 2017
Klumpen0815: This is a very sad state of affairs.
Do you know of any hardware combination without this BS that is able to run current DRM-free Linux games at 60fps maxed out and can handle WinXP gaming in a virtual system?
I don't care for the latest hardware hungry Windows games at all so there must be something...
Considering most games are only released for x86 and x86_64, no. There is the Talos Workstation, which is pretty much as open as you can get (and rather expensive), but as it runs on the POWER architecture, you'll have to emulate x86 thereby limiting performance, and you're still limited in available graphics cards if you don't want binary firmwares.Do you know of any hardware combination without this BS that is able to run current DRM-free Linux games at 60fps maxed out and can handle WinXP gaming in a virtual system?
I don't care for the latest hardware hungry Windows games at all so there must be something...
Post edited February 23, 2017 by Maighstir
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Posted February 24, 2017
immi101: https://libreboot.org/faq/#amd
conclusio
that being said, I haven't seen any specific information wrt that topic for the Ryzen processors. But it seems very unlikely that AMD would stop following in Intels footsteps here.
Klumpen0815: This is a very sad state of affairs. conclusio
that being said, I haven't seen any specific information wrt that topic for the Ryzen processors. But it seems very unlikely that AMD would stop following in Intels footsteps here.
Do you know of any hardware combination without this BS that is able to run current DRM-free Linux games at 60fps maxed out and can handle WinXP gaming in a virtual system?
I don't care for the latest hardware hungry Windows games at all so there must be something...
so for example the fx8350 (8-core) or fx6300 (6-core) + AM3 motherboard
i am really not that up to date with current released games, so can't really say in how far that is enough for current linux games. Never tried running WinXP games in a virtual system either.
Maighstir: There is the Talos Workstation, which is pretty much as open as you can get (and rather expensive), but as it runs on the POWER architecture, you'll have to emulate x86 thereby limiting performance, and you're still limited in available graphics cards if you don't want binary firmwares.
that's pretty cool, haven't seen that before. That certainly has the power to compete with x86 (unlike ARM). But damn, that price is really unattractive. Wish I had that kind of money laying around ... :p
Post edited February 24, 2017 by immi101
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Posted February 24, 2017
Processors seem promising. But at the same time i wonder when we'll start getting 12-32 cores. The size they can shrink it is stopping, so it's either optimization or more cores. Or both.
Alternatively we might start getting more SMP motherboards that have room for like 6 cpu's (and one core set as the master/sync for larger projects that make use of it).
Alternatively we might start getting more SMP motherboards that have room for like 6 cpu's (and one core set as the master/sync for larger projects that make use of it).
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Posted February 24, 2017
CPUs seems expensive to me these days, I remember picking up a brand-new Athlon 1.2Ghz for $110, a top of the line CPU at the time. Even factoring in inflation, that kind of money won't get you a mid-range CPU now. A top Geforce3 was $300, people now spend twice that much for a top GPU.