Don't know why they are still making Alien movies. This franchise had two very good entries and not much else after (I also enjoyed the first AvP for what it was: a mindless action crossover of two iconic movie monsters). This story is told to the death, move on to something new please.

I think movies from the 80s, and older, often absolutely dwarf most new films. For one thing, obviously, the visuals alone do not a great film make, but even just in that department I'd disagree with you're premise of "raised bar". Very often the new, CGI filled films look way worse than movies from the 80s. It's actually kind of amazing just how bad the CG tends to look in many blockbuster films from the last 15 years or so. It's not even funny how vastly superior something like Terminator 2 looks.

I agree, but I don't think it has anything to do with the film aging poorly, or the visuals, which still for the most part hold up. It's more just that the freshness and shock value of it all is obviously not there anymore. It's a bit like The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. There's nothing wrong with the book, it's just that everyone is pretty much guaranteed to know the concept inside out through "cultural osmosis" of sorts long before they pick the original book up. What must have been a tremendous mystery with a great twist, is now just kind of exactly what you'd expect.

Personally, I was never a huge fan of the first Alien, even though I respect it as a very well made film, because after the very intriguing first act, with the mysterious alien ship and stuff, it kind of devolves into just watching everyone get killed, and these kind of films just are never great fun for me. It only picks up again when Ripley is the only one left. In the same way, I like Evil Dead 2 way more than the first film.

I'd rewatch Forbidden Planet over seeing a new Avatar movie any day.

Sure, but T1 was a relatively low budget affair. Even adjusted for inflation it cost a tiny fraction of something like The Flash, which looked so, so much worse than any stop motion in T1 (and that's Flash on release, compared to T1 decades down the line). And for whatever it's faults, just the fact that the effects in T1 still have that "physical" aspect to them gives them a sense of reality of sorts that, however imperfectly, does hold up in a way that CG never does. Even what felt like really good CG at the time, like a lot of scenes in Peter Jackson's King Kong, looks very fake now (and that's a movie I actually overall think is very good, and I think I liked it more when I watched it a couple years back than the first time I saw it in the theatre).

For bonus points, let's compare Darby O'Gill and the Little People, from freaking 1959 (honest to Valen, that movie is an unjustly forgotten masterpiece), with the wide awake nightmare of the new Snow White.

I hear ya and I know what you mean. I went into Wheel of Time series (Prime) with my head full of the book's stories and got quite the shock. If they can be watched somewhere, I'll probably check out these other Alien movies. I've watched enough silly movies (like the classic Blob) and still found myself enjoying them for what they were. I just recalled another called Day of the Triffids (w/o color) or something like that, surprisingly fun movie. I'm remembering old movies all of a sudden lol.

I don't know about the Superman vs Aliens comics (1st time hearing it), but I did read X-Men comics long ago that has Wolverine almost turning into an Alien, but his healing factor fought back the virus. His body actually almost morphed into one, which was wierd seeing it since his bones are either coated or wrapped in Adamantium. If memory serves, I think they even used similar art to the actual Alien movie. It was too long ago, so I can't be sure. I'll have to do a search for that comics later.

Now that I think about it, I may have watched one of the AVP movies (was there more than 1?). Was Danny Glover in it by chance? Now you got me thinking of all these 80s and 90s stuff (or maybe some 2000s too). :)
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Haha, I remember that scene, it was so funny thinking about it later on. Though back then, I honestly didn't think much about it, so maybe my expectations were much lower during the 80s and 90s. I mean everything was new and exciting to me back then. If they rest of the movie wasn't so amazing, that scene might have stood out too much.

Damn, this thread has got me so nostasgic, I want to hop on Tubi and other sites to see how many 80s and 90s movies I can rewatch this weekend lol.
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I hear ya, everyone sees the world differntly and I imagine it's no different for movies. As I mentioned a min ago, I'll probably check some these out. With time being limited, I'll have to find out which one (or 2) to pick lol.

Tbh, I haven't went to a movie theater in over two decades (is that strange? lol), so I don't even know what it's like anymore hehe. So I don't know if any movie will enough of a powerful urge to go. I'll have to watch some trailers I suppose.
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Sci-fi movies from the 80s were about exploring the unknown and taking risk with what the audience wanted.

Nowadays movies are just recycled trash that are shameless money-grab with predictable plots.

Hollywood is allergic to new ideas. With old ideas pencil pushers can create graphs of cost/ profit to show pencil pusher executives to sign off on a project on the assumption that history will repeat itself. But a new idea, who knows.

Irony: Before AI trash, Hollywood has been churning out similar content for years.

.....also, the cast is terribly wrong.

When you think of ship crew on existing vessels in reality. Do you think of people visually, as was cast for the film?

It depends on what you mean by that. Do you mean their ages? As far as I know the group isn't really what you'd expect as a crew because they're not really a crew. They're a bunch of random people from a backwater colony who squeeze into a ship trying to get the hell out of dodge. My question would be how their individual skills are explained away in this episode. In the past everyone who showed aptitude in something knew it for good reason: Ripley for instance was a trained and experienced pilot before being introduced. Disney has a habit of introducing characters who just know stuff because the script said so, not because the character would actually have that skill in the "real world".

Besides, it doesn't have to make complete sense, because according to Disney Logic branding is the putty which fills all plot holes, weird casting decisions, and weak script writing.

Predator 2.

An indirect sequel that did a lot right but got panned because people wanted more Arnie at the time of its release.

To complete Sachy's answer, there were 2 AVP movies but only the first one is watchable. The difference is good schlocky action vs. bad schlocky slasher junk. I'd go so far to say that AVP1 is slightly better than Prometheus and leagues better than Alien Covenant, which are the Alien prequels.

There's also the criminally under-rated Predators starring Adrian Brody and a cameo by Danny Trejo's Machete.

Did you notice that former Alien films were protagonized by adults, while this one shows youngsters?

The film looks bad and cliched. Ooh the ALIEN is hissing very close to the characters face. Gee where have I seen that before (ALIEN 3). Oh no multiple facehuggers attacking (ALIENS).

They have a bloody pulse rifle in Romulus. That is ENDGAME for a Xenomorph (not a Queen though).

Dumb film, dumb nostalgia bait. I'm glad Hollywood is dying.

I was watching this movie just because i did not find something "better" and i was not going into a cinema for way to long already. However... i was not sure what to think or feel about... after watching this movie. In my mind it is full of cliche and the one person able to survive... i knew it from the very beginning already. The story... i think there is not much of it at all, reason why i can not say why those aliens are actually acting the way they do. Surely, it is a okay horror movie at least but i think... with the game i got recently for free known as "The Callisto Protocol" i may have even more horror including gameplay, and perhaps even a good story. Of course, "Alien Isolation" has been installed on my PC as well, as it is part of my game collection.

I guess... cinema is simply here in order to socialize and perhaps meet some people i guess... but i would not go there just for the movie itself.

I think, there is a good reason the game industry is still growing while the movie industry is unfortunately becoming depleted...
I think movies are simply very expensive for "what you get"... but it is initially not a bad thing meeting people and doing something together.