Navagon: Galaxy was always going to act as a huge human resource hog during its early development. Things should ease off a bit in the months to come.

Berggeist: look dude i don't wanna take the wind out of your sails or anything but

1) The first thing you linked is an opinion blog. The crux of its argument is that the report does not literally say "losers" or explicitly say men made "frequent, nasty" comments and that this study reveals "only a glimpse", which is kind of how science works. On top of that, the study actually does provide numbers on death threats and other such "nasty" comments, and also explicitly breaks these down, including an analysis on comments that would qualify as hostile sexism versus simply negative, neutral or positive. The study itself gives that it's not perfect and only had so much data to utilize, which is every study ever.

2) The second thing you link, from "nichegamer", hoo boy. Read their about me.

"We’re a website run by true gamers who love games. We have no room for jaded biases, politics or social agendas. We’re independently owned and answer to absolutely no one when it comes to what games we cover, and the way in which we cover them.

We’re proud to be based out of Philadelphia – the birthplace of American freedom, although we cover games from all over the world. We are committed to bringing you original content, insightful opinions and the full and accurate news without any fluff or agendas."

But the actual article is a desperate clutching at straws. It cries foul over the study being conducted in 2012, and that the game was old in 2012 (never mind that studies take time to process and I'm not sure why they even mention the game is old). It then argues that they didn't say "we obtained from the original data" rather than "we played", except the study actually fully divulges where the data came from and how they observed it.

Then the article comments that men were not examined for sexist comments. The study, however, gives that the only vocal players were all male. I can only assume nichegamer is now confusing homophobic with sexist, or just didn't actually read the study hard.

Nichegamer then complains that the article is not controlling for age, nationality, location or ethnicity, although how you're supposed to control for that in xbox live halo matches is beyond me. They complain that the authors of the study didn't examine players who didn't talk. Considering the study is specifically about talkers, and not people who have [I]no meaningful way to communicate[/I], why is this a shock?

Nichegamer then wanders into a personal anecdote about their college professor, and then complains that this study only found a small number of players making sexist comments. That's not what the study was about though. The study was about negative comments in general, with sexist comments specifically a subsection - and the point was still that it tended to correlate with players who were worse, and more often when the researcher "speaker" messages were said in a female voice.

Then it cries foul over the study mentioning ranking and using kill/death ratio in a cooperative game, except that if you actually take the time to read the study, it discriminates between people who aren't killing much and people who are actually dying often. This is something they should know if they actually took a stats course.

It complains it draws conclusions about "low-status males" in society, when the study is discussing status [I]as it applies within the game[/I]. The article ends on a defiant declaration that the data was manipulated to make people appear sexist, then narrowly focusing on specifically sexist comments rather than the apparent fact that those who spoke with a female voice tended to draw more negative comments in general, but the study is entirely forth-coming about the results, the limitations, and so on.

I would ask you to consider that nichegamer, whether they realize it or not, are in fact pushing an agenda of their own without actually realizing that they are. In fact, looking at their editorials, I would say that their bias is readily apparent.

real.geizterfahr: The problem is that Galaxy should have celebrated its 1st birthday already. Remember that Original Sin got delayed because they thought about releasing it with Galaxy support. The release of this game was June 30. Last year!

Berggeist: snip

itchy01ca01: If me posting something about accepting female gamers gets a ton of downvotes.
Just saying ;)
The whole gamergate incident should teach us that most male gamers hate female gamers. This little social experiment I did just proves my theory as well.

JKHSawyer: Fuck women!

...and populate the Earth!

Doc0075: It is spelt moron but thanks anyway.

Brasas: I've been thinking of posting something saying: Wake up, we in the forum are a minority! Or something of the sort.

I think there are ways to keep the forum good, but they'd involve us taking over development pro bono, coordinating it with GOG or something. We'd have to accept we're far from a significant part of the revenue, and take matters in our own hands basically.

At least I think there are technological ways to increase transparency and empwer the self moderation that used to be more common.

real.geizterfahr: The problem is that Galaxy should have celebrated its 1st birthday already. Remember that Original Sin got delayed because they thought about releasing it with Galaxy support. The release of this game was June 30. Last year! So... The buggy Witcher 3 launcher we have now (that's what Galaxy is - a Witcher 3 launcher), is a heavily developed version of what GOG planned to release more than one year ago. I don't even remember when they mentioned Galaxy for the first time, but the... "thing" we have now doesn't look like something that got far more than one year of development. So I don't see how things should "ease off a bit" in the next couple of months :/

Doc0075: It is spelt moron but thanks anyway.

itchy01ca01: If a women works harder than a man at their job, they deserve just as much pay, time off, what have you for what they do as any male. That's the problem corporate America/Canada is still having.

itchy01ca01: If me posting something about accepting female gamers gets a ton of downvotes.
Just saying ;)
The whole gamergate incident should teach us that most male gamers hate female gamers. This little social experiment I did just proves my theory as well.

Berggeist: Nichegamer then complains that the article is not controlling for age, nationality, location or ethnicity, although how you're supposed to control for that in xbox live halo matches is beyond me. They complain that the authors of the study didn't examine players who didn't talk. Considering the study is specifically about talkers, and not people who have [I]no meaningful way to communicate[/I], why is this a shock?

itchy01ca01: If a women works harder than a man at their job, they deserve just as much pay, time off, what have you for what they do as any male. That's the problem corporate America/Canada is still having.

tort1234: Have you ever come across a woman that works harder than men at their job ?
Have you ever come across a woman that works 70+ hours a week or gets dangerous jobs such as construction, mining, frontline military, etc ?

Women won't get paid equal to men because they work less hours, take more time off and work in safe jobs.