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I'm trying to find some old games and one I can't because Google fills searches with other types of airplane games is one where you have a grid like in PacMan and you control a gray airplane and must kill the red ones (or you're red, enemies are gray, not so sure). It's a top-down game, the planes look like an F-22 or an F-16 would look like from above (EDIT: I think mine have 2 engines). The graphics are not much, the planes have some some nuances and the pilot window is colored differently but it's a 90s 2D game after all. All you do is walk along the grid and shoot a white dot from the tip of the plane, which must hit something (an enemy or the wall), before you can shoot again. Its levels would get harder by increasing the speed of the planes and the number of enemies. Thanks for any suggestions.

EDIT: it is not a DOS game, it started in a proper window.
Post edited March 29, 2018 by kaletan
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kaletan: I'm trying to find some old games and one I can't because Google fills searches with other types of airplane games is one where you have a grid like in PacMan and you control a gray airplane and must kill the red ones (or you're red, enemies are gray, not so sure). It's a top-down game, the planes like an F-22 or an F-16 would look like from above (EDIT: I think mine have 2 engines). The graphics are not much, the planes have some some nuances and the pilot window is colored differently but it's a 90s 2D game after all. All you do is walk along the grid and shoot a white dot from the tip of the plane, which must hit something (an enemy or the wall), before you can shoot again. Its levels would get harder by increasing the speed of the planes and the number of enemies. Thanks for any suggestions.

EDIT: it is not a DOS game, it started in a proper window.
It does sound a bit like Batalia but it's from 80s so I'm not really sure
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kaletan: I'm trying to find some old games and one I can't because Google fills searches with other types of airplane games is one where you have a grid like in PacMan and you control a gray airplane and must kill the red ones (or you're red, enemies are gray, not so sure). It's a top-down game, the planes like an F-22 or an F-16 would look like from above (EDIT: I think mine have 2 engines). The graphics are not much, the planes have some some nuances and the pilot window is colored differently but it's a 90s 2D game after all. All you do is walk along the grid and shoot a white dot from the tip of the plane, which must hit something (an enemy or the wall), before you can shoot again. Its levels would get harder by increasing the speed of the planes and the number of enemies. Thanks for any suggestions.

EDIT: it is not a DOS game, it started in a proper window.
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Ghorpm: It does sound a bit like Batalia but it's from 80s so I'm not really sure
Could be from late 80s since another one, "Destroyer for Windows" was from 92. That one is a nice Battleships game where there are some ships at the bottom of the window that catch fire when you hit an enemy vessel. And you can tell from which section catches fire if you hit the front, back or middle, great help to win. Do you have a link for Batalia, since that means "battle" in my language at least and again, google only returns recent games.
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Ghorpm: It does sound a bit like Batalia but it's from 80s so I'm not really sure
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kaletan: Could be from late 80s since another one, "Destroyer for Windows" was from 92. That one is a nice Battleships game where there are some ships at the bottom of the window that catch fire when you hit an enemy vessel. And you can tell from which section catches fire if you hit the front, back or middle, great help to win. Do you have a link for Batalia, since that means "battle" in my language at least and again, google only returns recent games.
"Batalia" word from my post is a link ;) But here:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/batalia
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kaletan: Could be from late 80s since another one, "Destroyer for Windows" was from 92. That one is a nice Battleships game where there are some ships at the bottom of the window that catch fire when you hit an enemy vessel. And you can tell from which section catches fire if you hit the front, back or middle, great help to win. Do you have a link for Batalia, since that means "battle" in my language at least and again, google only returns recent games.
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Ghorpm: "Batalia" word from my post is a link ;) But here:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/batalia
Terribly sorry, I was on the phone and the slight difference is harder to notice

Edit: If this game were on Windows, with a menu & stuff and had levels with 1 player vs the others, it would match. And the grid would need to be a bit more complicated but the idea is the same.
Post edited March 26, 2018 by kaletan
I found it eventually, it's called Alien Force https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNvQLOEzBmM The "airplanes" were spaceships in fact, it would seem.
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@Fairfox Monitors had smaller resolution, I played this in 640x480. On Windows 95 in 1997. Never had a Win 3.1
Could someone reply to my resolution so I can mark that as the solution? i read you can't mark your own, without giving yourself reputation, so that's forbidden.

EDIT:Never mind, the first reply after mine is perfect :)
Post edited March 31, 2018 by kaletan
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Bivhab: This is a good game. I have played this game . I like it.

I want to know that do you have any football game. I wan to play football. I like football so much. If you have then send me.
Are you really from the U.K.?
Okay, he's a bot.
No. I am from Bangladesh. But why?
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Another form of the game, also originating from the Far East, was the Japanese Kemari, which began some 500-600 years later and is still played today. This is a sport lacking the competitive element of Tsu' Chu with no struggle for possession involved. Standing in a circle, the players had to pass the ball to each other, in a relatively small space, trying not to let it touch the ground.

The Greek 'Episkyros' - of which few concrete details survive - was much livelier, as was the Roman 'Harpastum'. The latter was played out with a smaller ball by two teams on a rectangular field marked by boundary lines and a centre line. The objective was to get the ball over the opposition's boundary lines and as players passed it between themselves, trickery was the order of the day. The game remained popular for 700-800 years, but, although the Romans took it to Britain with them, the use of feet was so small as to scarcely be of consequence.
For all the evidence of early ball sports For all the evidence of early ball sports played elsewhere in the world, the evolution of football as we know it today took place in Britain. The game that flourished in the British Isles from the eighth to the 19th centuries featured a considerable variety of local and regional versions - which were subsequently smoothed down and smartened up to create the modern-day sports of association football, rugby football and, in Ireland, Gaelic football.
Post edited March 31, 2018 by Bivhab
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Primitive football was more disorganised, more violent, more spontaneous and usually played by an indefinite number of players. Frequently, games took the form of a heated contest between whole villages - through streets and squares, across fields, hedges, fences and streams. Kicking was allowed, as in fact was almost everything else. Sometimes kicking the ball was out of the question due to the size and weight of the sphere being used - in such cases, kicking was instead limited to taking out opponents.
Curiously, it was not until nine years after the rules of football had been first established in 1863 that the size and weight of the ball were finally standardised. Up to then, agreement on this point was usually reached by the parties concerned when they were arranging the match, as was the case for a game between London and Sheffield in 1866. This encounter was also the first where the duration was prearranged for 90 minutes.

Shrovetide football, as it was called, belonged in the 'mob football' category, where the number of players was unlimited and the rules were fairly vague. For instance, according to an ancient handbook from Workington in England, any means could be employed to get the ball to its target with the exception of murder and manslaughter.
One theory is that the game is Anglo-Saxon in origin. In both Kingston-on-Thames and Chester, local legend has it the game was played there for the first time with the severed head of a vanquished Danish prince. In Derby, it is said to have originated in the third century during the victory celebrations that followed a battle against the Romans. Yet there is scant evidence of the sport having been played at this time, either in Saxon areas or on the continent. Indeed prior to the Norman conquest, the only trace found of any such ball game comes from a Celtic source.
Another theory regarding its origin is that when 'mob football' was being played in the British Isles in the early centuries AD, a similar game was thriving in France, particularly in the northern regions of Normandy and Brittany. So it is possible that the Normans brought this form of the game to England with them.
Scholars have also suggested that besides the natural impulse to demonstrate strength and skill, in many cases pagan customs, especially fertility rites, provided a source of motivation for these early 'footballers'. The ball symbolised the sun, which had to be conquered in order to secure a bountiful harvest. The ball had to be propelled around, or across, a field so that the crops would flourish and the attacks of the opponents had to be warded off.
Post edited March 31, 2018 by Bivhab
https://youtu.be/Y-ZuapDOBbM?t=32m34s
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Bivhab: >details<
Also, the word "ball" comes from the Ancient Greek (βαλλειν), ballein "to throw".

Edit:
Seems the Greek alphabet has an alternate encoding …
Post edited April 01, 2018 by scientiae