Posted October 16, 2017

Grargar
Insert cat to continue
Registered: Aug 2012
From Greece

victorchopin
Laika's man
Registered: May 2011
From Congo, Republic of

phaolo
Durik - Half-Orc
Registered: Dec 2013
From Italy
Posted October 16, 2017


At least we'll know who is a normal user and who instead is working for Gog.

Grargar
Insert cat to continue
Registered: Aug 2012
From Greece

victorchopin
Laika's man
Registered: May 2011
From Congo, Republic of

Piranjade
*twirls*
Registered: Jun 2012
From Germany
Posted October 16, 2017
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I wonder whether those who were invited and didn't come see it the same way.
At this point I'd really like their input to see how they feel about that the 6 that went know the username of a few (not all) others that were invited.
as you seem to know who they are, maybe ask them to join us here?
I can see that those who visited would be interested in knowing who was invited to see if the choice of people showed a certain agenda on GOG's side.

Also I don't see a hint anywhere that YOUR privacy was not protected. And whether a user name is private information is at least arguable.

I thought it was about the people who were invited and didn't come.
Now a quick insight in MY feelings:
Sadly you saying things "pseudo-partners" and "entitled" or "But hey, be a condescending asshole by claiming I'm just ranting with no point. You can stick it where the sun doesn't shine." or "Because it makes all of you so manly by pressing the downrep button" doesn't make your position seem any stronger, I'd rather say that this attitude undermines it.
I feel that your point is well worth discussing (otherwise I hadn't posted) and I'm genuinely interested why NDAs and/or partnership agreements apparently don't seem to exist for you.
For me sharing information with NDAed partners is sharing information on the inside of GOG. And considering how little leaks their generally are GOG's system seems to work.
Is my impression correct that for you it isn't on the inside but on the outside?
And maybe that is the difference that causes our different viewpoints?
I don't mean to come about as attacking you. I do try to understand but so far it seems like a lot of tangled up feelings, partial information, and rage to me.
I'm not a native speaker so if there is something in my way of asking questions and trying to discuss this issue is particularly upsetting for you, I'd be interested to know.

RWarehall
Ja'loja!
Registered: Jan 2012
From United States
Posted October 16, 2017

Maybe as a GoG partner you should pass on the message that some people are concerned over their privacy...

Piranjade
*twirls*
Registered: Jun 2012
From Germany
Posted October 16, 2017

Then, you don't classify as normal users anymore (=completely independent).
IMO, it would be better if such users had special accounts (e.g: marked with a color like the devs' ones).

Also because I find it awkward to say that I'm streaming for GOG and clarifying stuff like that.

adaliabooks
"Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?"
Registered: Jun 2013
From United Kingdom
Posted October 16, 2017

I wonder whether those who were invited and didn't come see it the same way.
At this point I'd really like their input to see how they feel about that the 6 that went know the username of a few (not all) others that were invited.
as you seem to know who they are, maybe ask them to join us here?
I can see that those who visited would be interested in knowing who was invited to see if the choice of people showed a certain agenda on GOG's side.
I can't imagine any of the other's who have revealed themselves in this thread would have an issue with it either, considering they've revealed the fact they were invited to the entire GOG forum now.
There are possibly others who haven't revealed themselves (there are certainly a few others who I may have expected to be invited who I don't remember posting here that they were) who might have an issue, and if there are I'd be genuinely interested in hearing (even privately) from them too.

Piranjade
*twirls*
Registered: Jun 2012
From Germany
Posted October 16, 2017

That was not good at all.
Sorry for that.
Edit: After re-reading that long post by me I see that especially in the beginning my attitude isn't good. I could have done better there.
I'll not edit it now because somebody might be responding to it and I don't want to make ti look like I'm trying to erase what I said there.
Post edited October 16, 2017 by Piranjade

adaliabooks
"Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?"
Registered: Jun 2013
From United Kingdom
Posted October 16, 2017


Maybe as a GoG partner you should pass on the message that some people are concerned over their privacy...
Of course, if there was a breach it would be investigated and if it was shown that person X revealed the information and shouldn't have had it in the first place then something would be done. The person would presumably be punished in some way (under whatever terms their contract stated) as well as the person within GOG who shared the information in the first place.


Also because I find it awkward to say that I'm streaming for GOG and clarifying stuff like that.
But as for every user who has signed any kind of contract with GOG... I think people might be surprised with how many users that might actually be...
Post edited October 16, 2017 by adaliabooks

RWarehall
Ja'loja!
Registered: Jan 2012
From United States
Posted October 16, 2017
My concern is over how freely GoG is anointing "partners" and the types of information they are sharing. It is also the cavalier attitude of some of these "partners" in which they make it seem they are entitled to discuss and be privy to the business of "mere users". I feel some of them are very naive about the nature of NDAs and what those rights entail.
Having worked under any number of NDAs myself, you would never hear me telling someone about how it's okay to share information like that among partners because we'd be covered by the User Agreement. That would be asinine. In fact those companies I've worked for take strides in maintaining confidentiality even between separate business partners. In fact, those companies probably wouldn't be our partners if we didn't.
Having worked under any number of NDAs myself, you would never hear me telling someone about how it's okay to share information like that among partners because we'd be covered by the User Agreement. That would be asinine. In fact those companies I've worked for take strides in maintaining confidentiality even between separate business partners. In fact, those companies probably wouldn't be our partners if we didn't.

Piranjade
*twirls*
Registered: Jun 2012
From Germany

tfishell
Remorse: The List, if you like FPS psych horror
Registered: Oct 2010
From United States
Posted October 16, 2017



RWarehall
Ja'loja!
Registered: Jan 2012
From United States
Posted October 16, 2017

I see making people partners more of a way of having a hold over them in case they share something they shouldn't (example: future releases). Also, and I know you might not agree with this, there is also GOG's side of having invited people, meaning GOG shared with those partners something that GOG did. There is a difference, for me, between, "We invited user A" and "User A contacted us and wanted to be part of this."
I have worked in several different fields and the purpose of NDAs has always been slightly different.
Sometimes it was even used to make it possible for people to share information ("Both of you are now under NDA, so you two may now talk about project X but not with anybody else.").
I'd say the purpose of NDAs and environment in which they are used are not always the same basically.