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Posted October 07, 2017
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JMich: Blame the rest of the guys. Best we could do was "and they came back with all 12 kidneys still attached", which didn't sound all that funny.
But the kidney part was a great running gag during our visit :D
Posted October 07, 2017
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AlienMind: What?
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fr33kSh0w2012: it's a NDA that's what it stands for
What?
http://falseknees.com/273.html
Posted October 07, 2017
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Hey everyone!

I'd just like to, on behalf of the entire team, thank the Magnificent Six for taking the time and coming over to Warsaw to hang out with us for a little bit, even on such short notice, and also for putting together this forum post and sharing their impressions of the visit with the rest of the community.

It was totally great getting to know you!
Posted October 07, 2017
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Posted October 07, 2017
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Asbeau: If I was GOG's accountant I'd ask why they flew six people from five different countries to Poland and paid all their living expenses so they could have a chat, when there's this thing called Skype...
Like Wishbone already said, it wouldn't have been the same when you would have done the same thing via Skype. Besides the Q&A, meeting face to face and getting to know each other was an impotant part of this meeting (at least for me). And there was also a lot of informal talk in the evenings that gave some more insight into GOG's business. Hard to create that kind of experience using Skype.
Posted October 07, 2017
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JMich: A few weeks ago, some forum members received an e-mail invitation for a “one of a kind community event” in Warsaw. The reason for the invitation was that GOG wants to improve communications with the community.
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Nicole28: A question, JMich! Due to me being too ass-lazy to read through the last 14 pages, I hope this hasn't been asked.

And that is, do you have any sharable answers as to why some developers refuse to submit patches to GOG (even though the patches have nothing to with steamworks, and are important bug fixes and updates), what does GOG do about it (do they ever call these devs up to push them on this?) and will GOG ever dare to manually grab patches from the steam version and custom update the GOG installers?
It all depends on the fact how important devs/publishers think it is to be on GOG. So the bigger/more important GOG is the more developers/publishers are trying to keep their version up to date to assure GOG and their customers are happy. Of course GOG is asking for new updates whenever they are aware of them (I was told about this tiny fact directly in chat long before signing anything so no NDA problem here) but in the end it will always be up to the devs/publishers if or when they send the update to GOG and there is not much GOG could do about that without damaging their image for future devs/publishers.

The reason for devs not updating GOG for several games imo has nothing to do with actual "refusal" but more of lazyness (as stated that's my opinion only because we did not talk with any external dev and of course GOG also could not say WHY devs would not update any game ... the sentence is pure me). Often the Steam patch and the GOG patch are quite different and you'll have to do another DRM-free build which needs to be tested as well and so on. In example I recently read about the DRM-free build of Journey Down 3 after release: the game crashes on some systems. This problem however does not occur on Steam. In a reddit the devs said that they have to redo the DRM-free build to make the crashes disappear (and I guess meanwhile they already did that in case anybody now should have doubts about buying the game here ;)). So it's obviously not just taking a file from one platform and add it to the own version. Don't know of course if they ever did that but I highly doubt it. The normal way pobably would be that the devs upload a new version/patch and tells them about it so GOG can build the installer.
Post edited October 07, 2017 by MarkoH01
Posted October 07, 2017
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tinyE: did we ever figure out what NDA was?
The sound at the beginning of the old batman
Posted October 07, 2017
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russellskanne: A good question would have been why this wish has not yet been marked with "in progress".
It should be if I can trust this statement :
Would semantic details that mean literally nothing really reassure you? "Yeah, we'll keep it optional... until we don't"
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Wishbone: You really can't get the same experience over Skype as you can face to face. And as JMich said, signing the NDA would have been problematic.

As for the economic aspect of it, GOG clearly thought it important enough to justify the expense. I was amazed at the lengths they went to in order to assure that they got as good input as possible.
Email and fax. They email it to you and you sign and scan or fax it back. You have 1 week to comply, or you don't get the skype invite... Seriously, have none of you ever businessed over the inerwebs before?
Post edited October 07, 2017 by paladin181
Posted October 07, 2017
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Wishbone: You really can't get the same experience over Skype as you can face to face. And as JMich said, signing the NDA would have been problematic.

As for the economic aspect of it, GOG clearly thought it important enough to justify the expense. I was amazed at the lengths they went to in order to assure that they got as good input as possible.
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paladin181: Email and fax. They email it to you and you sign and scan or fax it back. You have 1 week to comply, or you don't get the skype invite... Seriously, have none of you ever businessed over the inerwebs before?
Yes I have, and habitually do. And you simply can't beat being face to face with people. Skype really isn't the same, it just isn't. It's also very difficult to go out to dinner together over Skype.
Posted October 07, 2017
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Wishbone: Yes I have, and habitually do. And you simply can't beat being face to face with people. Skype really isn't the same, it just isn't. It's also very difficult to go out to dinner together over Skype.
I get that. I'm just calling bullshit on the "we had to sign a NDA, and you can't do that over Skype" argument. I think it's great, if only a little dodgy that they secretly invited a few people. It's awesome that you guys got to go have a great time and see things and do things and report a little of it back to us.

Yeah. GOG is great and all that. :P
Posted October 07, 2017
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CARRiON-XCII: Right now, my main concerns with GOG are:

1) They keep their promise with DRM-Free installers. I have no issue with Galaxy, but I want to backup my selection of favorite games for the day nuclear apocalypse is upon us so I'll be comfy playing Fallout in my bunker, next to my stack of canned beans and machineguns.
They actually asked each one if we do this (and I do) so they are aware. We also repeatedly told them that Galaxy in itself is not a problem neither for us not for anybody else as long as you can simply set a switch to use GOG the way you did before (meaning default setting for non Galaxy installers). They are very well aware about this fact as well.

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CARRiON-XCII: 2) They UPDATE their freaking games. Or at least push a dev to please send them the necessary build! This is one reason I still majorly buy from Steam. I know my indies and newer titles won't be sitting with sometimes game breaking bugs or lacking HUGE updates like the recent STRAFE one.
See what I wrote above. If they have the needed files and don't update it's their fault but as long as they don't have the files it's up to the devs and while of course you are allowed to ask (which GOG does) for updates, everything more than that would be a problem. You can however try to speed up that process by yourself by contacting devs and publishers ... I did this a few times and got some pretty good results. It's no guarantee of course but I can push as much as I want since I am just a customer who paid money for a game I want to have updated :D

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CARRiON-XCII: 3) They never stop trying to get great and classic games. Especially forgotten ones! There are tons of interesting older titles out there that GOG doesn't have still like Necrodome, Hexen, C&C, Baldies, Take No Prisoners, and there are even maybe some opportunities to bring some games like Prey 06 and Wolfenstein 09 back to sale. I understand they got all the "easy" ones but there is still SO MUCH games out there. Never stop the fight.
This is more or less answered in the OP. they still are trying to get classic games but it sometimes takes time.

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CARRiON-XCII: 4) Remember when GOG would actually sit down and talk with their community and do cool things like give fans shields and swords, create interesting videos for their YouTube channel, and use grannies knitting things as booth babes? Good times. Bring back the personality please.
I do remember a Q&A video a few years ago but unfortunately don't remember the campfire songs you were mentioning. Well, I cannot be here every day then ;) But yeah, personality is a big thing and a reason to buy here - we told them as well.

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CARRiON-XCII: As long as they do all that, I'll buy from here. If the situation with updating games actually improves, I'll buy more from here. Right now I'd say I spend more money on Steam, with some purchases here and there on GOG.
Of course that's totally o.k. but don't forget that GOG gets more important to devs the bigger they are and the more customers they have ... meaning more devs will try to update GOG recently and offer them their games. It's a bad situation because in the end all I as a customer want is a game that is kept up to date. And for now this is more often the case on Steam than on GOG but to make sure that this changes I'll have to buy on GOG .... not ideal. Its like this thing with DVD series. publishers release just one season and wait how it sells. Customers are afraid that the publishers won't release the rest of the series and don't want to have half of a series in the shelf so they don't buy. The publishers see that the sellings were not good so they don't reelase the rest of the series (I experienced this behaviour multiple times in my dvd forum). How could you break this circle of expectations?

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CARRiON-XCII: As far as the forum goes, that's unfortunate they think it will take so long. I don't personally agree that it would take that long to switch the forum software. I've been apart of many online communities before this one and I've seen them change their software within a couple weeks, tops. So unless this forum is written in R'lyehian or something, I think this translates more to "ain't nobody got time fo dat"
Maybe a bit of clarification here: the "it takes long" was not said by GOG directly that is more us saying that switching a forum mess to a good forum (one that is really good and has everything in it people want without the usual "GOG has switched and nothing is working anymore") takes time. They simply don't have estimates yet.

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CARRiON-XCII: I hope all invited had a good time regardless, and I at least thank GOG for extending the gesture towards the community, even though not much can be said except "It's okay guys, we got this!". A quiet "yay...?" is all I can say :P
We sure had and I for one am happy about your quiet "yay" as well :)
Post edited October 07, 2017 by MarkoH01
Posted October 07, 2017
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tinyE: Magnificent Six
That and a hot dog == 7-course meal.
Posted October 07, 2017
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MarkoH01: They actually asked each one if we do this (and I do) so they are aware. We also repeatedly told them that Galaxy in itself is not a problem neither for us not for anybody else as long as you can simply set a switch to use GOG the way you did before (meaning default setting for non Galaxy installers). They are very well aware about this fact as well.
Galaxy is never going to be an issue because the portion of their userbase using it will outgrow the portion that doesn't, if it hasn't already.
Posted October 07, 2017
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fables22: Hey everyone!

I'd just like to, on behalf of the entire team, thank the Magnificent Six for taking the time and coming over to Warsaw to hang out with us for a little bit, even on such short notice, and also for putting together this forum post and sharing their impressions of the visit with the rest of the community.

It was totally great getting to know you!
What's interesting is that this is so Willy Wonkaesque, but didn't have anyone clamoring for golden tickets. It seemed from the original post that there were more people invited, but only those six chose to visit --good on them for keeping an open mind and doing so.

However, we all love a mystery and now the chose six are shrouded in it. Who knows what super powers they bring back with them. :)
Posted October 07, 2017
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fr33kSh0w2012: it's a NDA that's what it stands for
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AlienMind: What?
http://falseknees.com/273.html
Lights on but no one home, eh?

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