Nah, Crysis is past... nowadays people would rather bring up a game like "Black Myth Wukong". Even Final Fantasy XVI is somehow demanding because even the best CPU may barely able to go above 60 FPS, this is one of the rare CPU bound games. In general it is more likely a game may become GPU bound, unless gamers use "crap settings and low resolution" of course. Still, the advantage of the "best" CPU is, it is somehow affordable at around 300-400 coins, which is not the case for the best GPU, albeit... AMD already tried to boost up CPU prices like mad (800 coins) at the launch of the 7950X, which they was not able to "keep up", because Intel was giving them to much competition. Even AMD is not innocent if it comes to "greed"... but it is difficult to become greedy as long as someone is directly competing at a lower price.

Indeed, Nvidia at high end can pretty much demand almost any price... as no one can compete. However, many of those cards got very good quality parts and building such a huge monolithic (not a chiplet) chip is surely not cheap. They still make a good margin at such a high price, because they CAN demand it.

I do not buy a Porsche to drive 30 instead of 50 km/h, if so a small energy efficient EV car might be cheaper to maintain and it may make more sense... of course our personal demand plays a big role.

I just can spell out my currently most demanding games on my collection:

Obviously at max or nearly max setings, please do not come to me "but you can as well play it by turning this and that and there... whatever... all the way down or disable it... lower your resolution... decrease your phallus size so it is more easy to please any game... i mean lover... sorry... i hope you people get it... this is for people who simply want to experience stuff at its full glory. If someone is happy always to decrease their experience at certain spots, it is totally OK, then you may be able to use almost any GPU and just turn down the settings to the point it will slowly start to become "fluid"... oh dear... becoming nasty now, excuse me. Anyway, it is simply for people who want to experience not only performance (usually 60 FPS, even better 120, in my case) but top notch graphic quality as well.

Yes i do need my card else i will struggle always to maintain 60 FPS, which is the current performance target.

-Witcher 3 (got RT)
-Cyberpunk 2077 (got RT)
-Metro Exodus (got RT)
-Morrowind OPEN MW FULLY modded
-Skyrim FULLY modded
-Kingdome Come Deliverance
-Everspace 2 (since they was updating to the UE 5 engine the game got RT and looks awesome but it is demanding)
-YS IX
-A Plague Tale Requiem

Out of those games, the most that's recommended is 16GB VRAM for 2077 (2160p/ultra settings w/ray tracery turned on).
(a few of the others seem to max out around 8GB VRAM, including Everspace 2)

(bolding mine) So you DID buy it for bragging purposes? That's all fine and well, but you should've admitted that from the start :)
As for me, graphics are somewhat important but I don't need top notch quality if the story is good(take Retchid for example).

Nah, not really, nope. I got no issue with "bragging", i even may enjoy it, but it would be the wrong card for the maximum amount of "bragging rights": Because i got my GPU (September 2022, 2+ years ago) at a time i could as well have waited a little in order for the 4090 to arrive... yet i decided not to get the overpriced 4090 and get me the at this moment "somewhat fair" (considering its great build quality and good performance) priced 3090 TI... so i decided to "step a bit back on performance" because neither did i need even more performance (no 120 Hz or 4k TV so far, still my old Plasma) nor did it make any sense paying even more for something simply to fast for my current needs (1080P, FULL settings, 60 FPS+).

To be honest... for my next possible target: 4k, FULL settings, 120 FPS+, the only card able to execute it may be the 5090, so a 4090 would not be able to satisfy this "next big demand". So i did not even bother... no card was fast enough until now.

Surely, if it was all about bragging, i may have gotten a very good 4090 design and may have paid around 700 (probably even more... 700 is the minimum difference) no matter if i got any use for. I decided to use this save up coins for enough of SSD space and a good board instead... and upgrading the PC is i actually got a use for a even faster card.

Right now you've got little use for about 1/3 of your current GPU.

I think you're taking the "we're gonna need a bigger boat" meme a bit too far, but you do you.
p.s. if you have any more money to blow, i'm sure many gog users would take donations :)

I am not enjoying where this whole conversation is going because in my game tests at full settings my card (or comparable performance card) is the one i was in need for, finish story... i am not going to argue even more nor trying to hand out a proof because i am not willing to advance this pointless debate any further than this.

No need to justify anything, i will get anything at any point at any price if i feel it is fine for me... including bragging as much as i enjoy. No one would be able to stop me from doing it, and i may even demand some donations as well if i feel like.

Those people... really... they got in mind they could dictate "how to behave" and "whats right or wrong". I do not care... simply go get the stuff YOU do enjoy and i got get MY stuff i enjoy.

Thanks for accepting this wild and unruly reality!

Besides: The one getting my donation is the one deserving it. With a very good attitude, able to respect anyone at any given situation, including those who apparently "got to much or brag to much" but more than anything able to make me smile with a great "spiritual prosperity" and as always with a good heart.

I don't care too much how people spend their money. I've mainly been trying to point out that that sort of card (in the title) is (imo) a waste of money at that price....especially given top game requirements in 2024. Of course, if you/others want to think otherwise then that's fine. But as you said to let people spend as they will, well then let others be free to state their own opinions?
(p.s. Courtesy should be handed to everyone, whereas [generally speaking], respect should be earned. I don't just hand it out to everyone and anyone)

It depends if we're talking subjectively or objectively. If objectively, there are no games that seem to be able to fully use 32GB VRAM at 4K/120. If subjectively, then it comes down to each individual's belief.

aside: you spent a good amount on a video card and are (possibly) eyeing another, and seem to be trying to justify your purchases to yourself and/or others here. That said, feel free to buy what makes you happy and enjoy it to the fullerest.

Hell.. who cares the amount of VRAM? It is simply a physical eye candy so the value could be satisfied even more... its a nice gimmick and "why not".

The thing that truly matters is its performance at the given settings, nothing else. There is no point to argue if this one thing is not able to become noticed.

Another point: I am not trying to justify things here, not at any point. If i feel like buying it i simply will buy it, even if the whole world would be telling me "you sux, your thing is crap, it is so useless, so overpowered", i will not care at all, as long as i feel for myself "it is alright and the stuff i need or want".

I just am interested into tech and whatelse discussions... because simply interest based. I got no special intentions... i do not care "intentions" as no one would be able to change my intention.

I get what you're trying to say, it's just that I don't fully agree with it. Of course we can always civilly agree to disagree.

Regarding this actually pointless RAM thing: It is usually a thing gamers enjoy to see if it goes "beyond a certain amount", because gamers are watching it and in this case the manufacturers are not to stingy adding a certain amount of VRAM related to the GPUs class.

However, it is in general accepted that no gamer, at the current time nor in the near future, will need more than 16 GB VRAM, which i do fully agree.

Yet, it was exactly the same for my previous GPU which had 6 GB VRAM and at the time of release it was "just to much", because no game was in need of more than 4 GB VRAM. Time has changed... if i still would be using this card (a 980 TI) i would have a realistic use for 6 GB of VRAM, else this card might now struggle with many games. We can say... Nvidia kinda was "future proofing" this card, perhaps just as a selling point but in the end, there was some use for it... not in short term but long term.

I can not say where this whole VRAM thing is going but, in case, the PS6 might use 32 GB unified RAM, then the VRAM demand on PC may slowly become the same. In this case the 5090 would be "future proof" while any other card is then slowly becoming "out of date" at this point.

It is never bad having "to much"; and if a card is already very expensive... this is just adding some more coins to a already expensive cookie; so i think Nvidias decisions was alright and i would back it up.

Which is why I hinted earlier that if you/someone else doesn't play the latest games all the time(or can wait awhile to play them), then it might be a better idea to wait and buy a similar card(similar amount of VRAM/clock speed/etc) for much less money. That way one can spend more on games and other things :)

Just to get it right, the point of getting a 5090 is its performance, not the amount of VRAM, i can tell it a couple more times but at some point i think not much use because people always try to compensate a lack of understanding with some sort of unnecessary belief.

Unfortunately, at the specs already told... even a DRM free gamer who might get many games "to late" can still benefit from this card, yes. DRM free gamer does not mean "crap gamer" or "classic only gamer", which is actually not the case because i do own games of any age and with any demand up to the very top.

My point was/is that eventually GPUs will come out with similar/same performance for much lower prices. If one doesn't play the latest games right away then it'd make more sense to save money and wait for a cheaper card with similar/same performance.

Firstly, i do not need to justify anything at all but i make one single example from a game on GOG that is truly leeching my 3090 TI at full settings, 1080P, 60 FPS "only". NATIVE, so no fake frames here, simply top notch quality. Simply the best quality... i do not care "turning something down"; this is not my intention.

It is using 375 W, and it can spike to over 400 W at certain points, so this GPU is sufficient, yes... but not "to much". This is just one of many other examples.
Its from GOG, so go get it if ya enjoy, graphically truly "wow"... https://www.gog.com/en/game/a_plague_tale_requiem

https://ibb.co/zsFgnRt

OK, so first myth "DRM free games only need potato computers", debunked with one single picture.