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Can we play as a non binary person with they/them pronouns?
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SarahGabriella: Can we play as a non binary person with they/them pronouns?
Hello SarahGabriella,

This is a sci-fi game. The action takes place in the 22nd century, where the reality, story, and context are different from what we're used to in our era. Some concepts might not be present, and others excelled into something different.

The Gamedecverse is a reality after the Post-Renewal Era where anyone can be anything and anyone, both in the Realium and many Virtualias. A person is no longer defined by the pronoun "he," "she," or "they," but by psychoscan.

The usual "he," "she" remained, but society decided there was no need to go into detail. The rainbow has become obvious - everyone is "himself" par excellence. Customs have changed; there are singles, there are flocks (extended families - a few guys, a few women).

There are some pre-made avatars to pick from, but that's all I can say right now.
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SarahGabriella: Can we play as a non binary person with they/them pronouns?
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TrueMatt: Hello SarahGabriella,

This is a sci-fi game. The action takes place in the 22nd century, where the reality, story, and context are different from what we're used to in our era. Some concepts might not be present, and others excelled into something different.

The Gamedecverse is a reality after the Post-Renewal Era where anyone can be anything and anyone, both in the Realium and many Virtualias. A person is no longer defined by the pronoun "he," "she," or "they," but by psychoscan.

The usual "he," "she" remained, but society decided there was no need to go into detail. The rainbow has become obvious - everyone is "himself" par excellence. Customs have changed; there are singles, there are flocks (extended families - a few guys, a few women).

There are some pre-made avatars to pick from, but that's all I can say right now.
Thanks for the explanation. Btw, they as singular pronouns exists and would likely fit a post gender binary future better. Tho obviously i do not expect you to change the game when its gonna release this year.

Might be something to consider for any future games that are set in the near and far future.
Good to know. As long as I can somehow create the character I want than I'm satisfied. Because it seems to be declared as a RPG wich means imho: Create your own character, not play as an already made. Wether girl or boy or nonbinary, I dont care. Just not sort of an already prebuilt :D
Choice is always good, sadly (outside of the royal WE) there are only 2 choices
I am on a personal level don't deal with this american nonsense. I ll be as blunt as
i can. NO i do not want it in my games i use for escapism.

I was interested in Battletech, until they meddled with this, now it is way down my "to buy list"
Solasta did the same, got to the same spot way down the "to buy list"

I am not going into this topic here, lucky me i am rooted in the real world since i don't use
Social Media except for discard (yes discard as i call it)

But to be clear about where this comes from, in my motherlanguage using the
title as these people insist, would mean to degrade the human being into a IT.
I simply refuse to be so disrespectful against another human, i don't even know.

This is why i push back against this "trend" that crawls into our Hobbys.
Does not mean GameDec will be a bad game though, in fact afterplaying the Demo i am
sure it will be a exellent Cyberpunk game.
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GHOSTMD: Choice is always good, sadly (outside of the royal WE) there are only 2 choices
I am on a personal level don't deal with this american nonsense. I ll be as blunt as
i can. NO i do not want it in my games i use for escapism.

I was interested in Battletech, until they meddled with this, now it is way down my "to buy list"
Solasta did the same, got to the same spot way down the "to buy list"

I am not going into this topic here, lucky me i am rooted in the real world since i don't use
Social Media except for discard (yes discard as i call it)

But to be clear about where this comes from, in my motherlanguage using the
title as these people insist, would mean to degrade the human being into a IT.
I simply refuse to be so disrespectful against another human, i don't even know.

This is why i push back against this "trend" that crawls into our Hobbys.
Does not mean GameDec will be a bad game though, in fact afterplaying the Demo i am
sure it will be a exellent Cyberpunk game.
I'll keep it short, "BASED" don't ride the mentally ill waves and stay in reality.

At least with their confirmation, there will be no mental illness in this game.

So sick and tired of the Twitter/Tumblr freaks trying to enforce the idea that mental ilness makes you special.
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dgnfly: I'll keep it short, "BASED" don't ride the mentally ill waves and stay in reality.

At least with their confirmation, there will be no mental illness in this game.

So sick and tired of the Twitter/Tumblr freaks trying to enforce the idea that mental ilness makes you special.
Don t drag me down to this bullshit level of this nonsense topic.
What i said is not about definitions, or leaving someone out.

It is about common sense and not forcing things down the throat of the 99%
If there are REALLY ppl out there, that play this game and want the
pronouns in. There is a rly simple solution to this.

The Developers could simply provide a free mini DLC for that stuff.
Anybody who wants it in, can use the DLC, anybody else would never see it
and enjoy just the regular game without being forced to see this crap they want
to escape from.

Just make this Anshar Studios since i think this would be a good compromise.
But we all know how it WILL end, it is never enough, ppl that only live in their
twitter bubble will demand that the game ll tick certain boxes.
While they ll never play it in the first place, from my point of view and as far as i
did follow this american nonsense, every franchise that got "touched" by them
is stained now. Even rightout destroyed.

As i said, Anshar Studios if you feel the "NEED" to implement this stuff, do it via
free mini DLC so ppl have the CHOICE to use it or not.
(we will then see if that ll be enough)
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dgnfly: I'll keep it short, "BASED" don't ride the mentally ill waves and stay in reality.

At least with their confirmation, there will be no mental illness in this game.

So sick and tired of the Twitter/Tumblr freaks trying to enforce the idea that mental ilness makes you special.
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GHOSTMD: Don t drag me down to this bullshit level of this nonsense topic.
What i said is not about definitions, or leaving someone out.

It is about common sense and not forcing things down the throat of the 99%
If there are REALLY ppl out there, that play this game and want the
pronouns in. There is a rly simple solution to this.

The Developers could simply provide a free mini DLC for that stuff.
Anybody who wants it in, can use the DLC, anybody else would never see it
and enjoy just the regular game without being forced to see this crap they want
to escape from.

Just make this Anshar Studios since i think this would be a good compromise.
But we all know how it WILL end, it is never enough, ppl that only live in their
twitter bubble will demand that the game ll tick certain boxes.
While they ll never play it in the first place, from my point of view and as far as i
did follow this american nonsense, every franchise that got "touched" by them
is stained now. Even rightout destroyed.

As i said, Anshar Studios if you feel the "NEED" to implement this stuff, do it via
free mini DLC so ppl have the CHOICE to use it or not.
(we will then see if that ll be enough)
If they put it into the base it would still be optional for you to use, I very much doubt they'd be forcing you to create a non binary PC. What's so troublesome about simply having another option?
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Druttercup: If they put it into the base it would still be optional for you to use, I very much doubt they'd be forcing you to create a non binary PC. What's so troublesome about simply having another option?
No it wouldn t unless they present OPTIONs before the game even starts
If it is put into the core game it ll become part of the character creator
see
SOLASTA
or it ll become part of the merc hiring
see
Battletech

SIMPLE make it a additional FREE DLC and all those who want to meddle with this
nonsense are good to go, while the rest of us can still enjoy their Hobby without
being pestered with those things.

Its troublesome because those are real world politics infiltrating things that we as
players use to escape exactly said politics and rl issues. Just look at what happend to comics
movies and now games, they try to push their agendas on us, claiming we re the
"bad" ppl if we do not abide by THEIR standards... while the standards they use
are close minded and all the other things they claim we are.

The fact that SarahGabriella is already not participating in this discussion is quite telling.
Says a lot how "important" this BS is to put into the game i think.
Believe she just posted it, to stir up anger and rage... typical, my bad then i did fall for it.
At least i gave the devs my honest opinion and a solution that is the "golden mid" and
a good compromise.

I and others won t have ANY of this, thats why i ll not get games for full price if they push
this twitter nonsense.

PS:
as i said it ll never be enough, the last 4 years have shown:
Sexy = bad, White = bad, you don t tick boxes? Too bad we rate your game, movie, comic
and books or music videos bad. Latest example of it? Cowboy Bebop live action.
And yes that IS what happens.

PPS:
The worst thing? It is just a bunch of weirdos, screaming and yelling on twitter and facebook
While companies out of "fear" for bad tweets cave into this. This sucks, big time.
Post edited September 06, 2021 by GHOSTMD
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GHOSTMD: Don t drag me down to this bullshit level of this nonsense topic.
What i said is not about definitions, or leaving someone out.

It is about common sense and not forcing things down the throat of the 99%
If there are REALLY ppl out there, that play this game and want the
pronouns in. There is a rly simple solution to this.

The Developers could simply provide a free mini DLC for that stuff.
Anybody who wants it in, can use the DLC, anybody else would never see it
and enjoy just the regular game without being forced to see this crap they want
to escape from.

Just make this Anshar Studios since i think this would be a good compromise.
But we all know how it WILL end, it is never enough, ppl that only live in their
twitter bubble will demand that the game ll tick certain boxes.
While they ll never play it in the first place, from my point of view and as far as i
did follow this american nonsense, every franchise that got "touched" by them
is stained now. Even rightout destroyed.

As i said, Anshar Studios if you feel the "NEED" to implement this stuff, do it via
free mini DLC so ppl have the CHOICE to use it or not.
(we will then see if that ll be enough)
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Druttercup: If they put it into the base it would still be optional for you to use, I very much doubt they'd be forcing you to create a non binary PC. What's so troublesome about simply having another option?
Like GHOSTMD elegantly put it, it will never be enough for people who want all those fantasy genders. It always gets suggested as optional and longer down the road it'll be enforced kinda like how all triple-A games have become fantasy games even when they are based on real-world events.

I for one won't buy games that enforce diversity for the sake of it. I don't need somebody's fantasy notion of gender or history. This only gets done so they can live in their delusional bubble. I'm sick and tired of all the Tumblr and Twitter freaks with their mentally ill ideas of how they think the world should be.

Nearly every media panders to a crowd who barely consumes the product they complain about. At least the effects of this are getting clearer and companies that do are losing money.
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GHOSTMD: The fact that SarahGabriella is already not participating in this discussion is quite telling.
Perhaps they'd simply prefer to not waste their time debating this with people on a forum that is clearly hostile to this sort of thing to begin with.
Post edited September 14, 2021 by Vareoth
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GHOSTMD: The fact that SarahGabriella is already not participating in this discussion is quite telling.
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Vareoth: Perhaps they'd simply prefer to not waste their time debating this with people on a forum that is clearly hostile to this sort of thing to begin with.
Perhaps, although i would claim, everything what i said was not hostile at all.
Claiming that it is, already shows how things usually go, with such arguments.

Anyhow, it is true the overall sentiment is relucant towards this whole thing. For good reason.
Since it is nonsense that only exists on twitter and facebook and it is forced on us.
People demanding those things sought to that, not the gaming communiy

As i stated we use games to escape reality, forcing this kind of fake inclusivity only will remind
players of that nonsense they try to pull.

I gave a good solution, Sarah could ve given some feedback on that. This one liner here, just reeks
of "trollpost" to stir up a argument about bullshit that twitter people try to force on others.

As i said, Anshar Studios can bring that in via a little free DLC for all the ppl who want to use it.
While leaving the main game untouched. This is a exellent solution for everyone.

Regarding the overall situation, every time this pronoun nonsense was shoved into
a franchise, said franchise got destroyed, because of the reasons i told.
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Vareoth: Perhaps they'd simply prefer to not waste their time debating this with people on a forum that is clearly hostile to this sort of thing to begin with.
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GHOSTMD: Perhaps, although i would claim, everything what i said was not hostile at all.
Claiming that it is, already shows how things usually go, with such arguments.

Anyhow, it is true the overall sentiment is relucant towards this whole thing. For good reason.
Since it is nonsense that only exists on twitter and facebook and it is forced on us.
People demanding those things sought to that, not the gaming communiy

As i stated we use games to escape reality, forcing this kind of fake inclusivity only will remind
players of that nonsense they try to pull.

I gave a good solution, Sarah could ve given some feedback on that. This one liner here, just reeks
of "trollpost" to stir up a argument about bullshit that twitter people try to force on others.

As i said, Anshar Studios can bring that in via a little free DLC for all the ppl who want to use it.
While leaving the main game untouched. This is a exellent solution for everyone.

Regarding the overall situation, every time this pronoun nonsense was shoved into
a franchise, said franchise got destroyed, because of the reasons i told.
I just can't imagine that adding an option that can easily be ignored would cause any sort of distress to anyone. It just doesn't feel very forced onto me, unless you consider the very availability of such an option to be an assault on your sensibilities and personal worldview. But if that is the case then I would argue that you shouldn't look into buying games that have elements of transhumanism and other futuristic views on human society as a whole. Expecting completely unchanged societal views in a game that takes place hundred(s) of years in the future probably isn't very realistic in my opinion.

But I am probably going off-topic here. Regardless, I'm not going to nitpick your argument. I'm just saying that the optional availability of something that doesn't impact you maybe shouldn't be a strong point of contention. But that is for you to decide.
Does this game have brain damaged characters? If not you're a bigot and a racist.
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Vareoth: I just can't imagine that adding an option that can easily be ignored would cause any sort of distress to anyone. It just doesn't feel very forced onto me, unless you consider the very availability of such an option to be an assault on your sensibilities and personal worldview. But if that is the case then I would argue that you shouldn't look into buying games that have elements of transhumanism and other futuristic views on human society as a whole. Expecting completely unchanged societal views in a game that takes place hundred(s) of years in the future probably isn't very realistic in my opinion.

But I am probably going off-topic here. Regardless, I'm not going to nitpick your argument. I'm just saying that the optional availability of something that doesn't impact you maybe shouldn't be a strong point of contention. But that is for you to decide.
See thats how this whole franchise destroying and cancel culturing got so big in the first place.
Because it go ignored and even openly embraced, which was one of the main perks of the whole
gaming community. However, if that is not such a big thing why not take my solution i made, to make
the ppl who RLY want this, happy? Why it HAS to be in the base game? Because it is a realistic
depiction? Yeee see thats the thing i wanna play gamedec to ESCAPE reality. Despite i think even in
100 years or even 1000 years 99% of the folks will be either female or male even though they ll be
able to be a genitalia switching dolphin in the virtual reality. But i am pretty sure even then it will
be to 99% either a female or male dolphin. Not those fantasy things twitter tries to pull, so some
people can feel special.

Did you ever dive into TES modding or Fallout for that matter? There are so many options, everybody
can choose from, you know why there is no anger and twitter "rage" about this? Because those
mods function just like i suggested with the mini DLC. That is simple the best way to not disrupt
anybody with weird pronouns and whatnot in the main game.

But that is not what twitter aims for, since those guys are fake, all what i have seen so far is
that they do it for attention and to destroy things. If you believe it is not true, look at the main
stream comic industry. Or movies, or the shit games like Ion Fury got for giving into the demands.

No... the best way to deal with this, is not meddling with it at all, or if you give the options
because options are always nice to have, make it a DLC. So everybody is happy.

But you ll see, it wont be enough.