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Posted February 26, 2018
Greetings to all

Do temples heal level drain?
There only options are:
Cure wounds
Raise Dead
Cure blindness and disease

But no level drain cure

There is a restoration scroll here:
http://www.crpgnotes.com/pool-of-radiance/por-maps/pool-of-radiance-mendors-library/

And the walkthrough states that the temple services can cure me. How is that accomplished?

[Edited]
I managed to doge every attack from the librarian spectre.
Thus no level drain. I presume that i''ll encounter even more undead with level drain attacks

Thank you for your time & assistance
gogwitcher300
Post edited February 26, 2018 by gogwitcher300
This question / problem has been solved by dtgreeneimage
Posted February 26, 2018
Regardless of whether you can cure it, there is a way to use this mechanic to your advantage:

1. Get level drained. If you lose a lot of HP from the level drain, reload; otherwise, save.
2. Earn enough experience to regain the level, then save.
3. Train to regain your level. If you don't gain more HP than you lost, reload.

By doing this, you can raise your HP up higher than normally possible. Be aware that the game only uses an unsigned 8-bit integer to store your HP, so going above 255 HP will cause an overflow; remember that you can continue to level up later in the series, so if you plan on transferring the character, make sure the character has room to gain more HP from leveling.

(Also, in Pools of Darkness, you can cast a spell to drain levels, providing another method of gaining extra HP, but you will need to go below level 10 to get HP rolls.)
Posted February 26, 2018
Temples won't cure level drain.
You'll need scrolls, either from the Library or the clerk when she gives you the Graveyard assignment. I don't think there are other sources.

Also note that the level draining is bugged. If drained more than once before using a Restoration scroll, your character will end up bugged. But that should be fixable with the Gold Boxc Companion.
Posted February 26, 2018
Pool of Radiance utterly failed in the level drain mechanic.
D&D rules: Cleric 4th level can learn the Restoration spell. In PoR, I can only learn the 3rd level cleric spells.
In Baldur's Gate I-II i could buy a Restoration spell.
In Nwn I-II i could learn the spell (cleric)

But here, I can't even buy the scrolls?!?

1000 gold for each scroll would be acceptable.
But utterly removing them to be only giving during a quest?!? (or found after defeating the basilisk in the library)

I thank you both for your assistance
gogwitcher300
Posted February 26, 2018
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gogwitcher300: D&D rules: Cleric 4th level can learn the Restoration spell. In PoR, I can only learn the 3rd level cleric spells.
Actually, in AD&D 1e and 2e, Restoration is a 7th level spell, meaning you can't learn it until 14th level, and only if you have 18 wisdom (some gold box games implement the wisdom requirement, others do not).

Baldur's Gate 2 was inaccurate here; it added a 4th level spell that would allow curing level draining earlier; that spell does not exist in the tabletop game (or, if it does, it's non-core).

Also, I believe the 7th level spell, aside from being only single target, only cured conditions, not hit point damage (so it was more like BG2's Lesser Restoration spell).

(Baldur's Gate 1, I believe, didn't even implement level draining in the first place.)
Posted February 26, 2018
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gogwitcher300: D&D rules: Cleric 4th level can learn the Restoration spell. In PoR, I can only learn the 3rd level cleric spells.
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dtgreene: (Baldur's Gate 1, I believe, didn't even implement level draining in the first place.)
http://baldursgate.wikia.com/wiki/Status_Effects
In the first BG, it was handy to be a paladin and have a cleric.
Wraiths and vampire wolves level drained my party. But at least I could cure them, not like in PoR.

And about the Restoration spell level. My bad, I accidentally read the 3rd edition.
Post edited February 26, 2018 by gogwitcher300
Posted March 14, 2018
I didn't consider this a big issue at all. My cleric ended up with 6 or more cleric scrolls with 2 spells (all of them Restoration). I had an embarrassment of Restoration spells at my disposal.

I think I used 4 spells ( two scrolls) the entire game.

The owner downer is, even after restoration, the affected character permanently loses one point of Constitution (and therefore some hit points).
Posted March 22, 2018
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elate1: The owner downer is, even after restoration, the affected character permanently loses one point of Constitution (and therefore some hit points).
This is by design; 1e and 2e rules state that any time you're character is resurrected (either by Raise Dead or Resurrection spells), the character loses 1 point of CON. This could be raised back, however, your initial CON score is the MAXIMUM number of times you can be brought back to life, unless by Wish or similar spell.
Post edited March 22, 2018 by mhanna211
Posted March 22, 2018
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elate1: The owner downer is, even after restoration, the affected character permanently loses one point of Constitution (and therefore some hit points).
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mhanna211: This is by design; 1e and 2e rules state that any time you're character is resurrected (either by Raise Dead or Resurrection spells), the character loses 1 point of CON. This could be raised back, however, your initial CON score is the MAXIMUM number of times you can be brought back to life, unless by Wish or similar spell.
This is, of course, a mechanic I dislike, as it encourages players to reload when a character dies, rather than continuing and reviving the dead character.

Even in P&P, I don't like this sort of rule, as I don't like having a character be permanently crippled or no longer playable because of a stray random event.

I believe that, in the Gold Box games, Resurrection doesn't cause loss of CON the way Raise Dead does. (Incidentally, in the second Dark Sun game, which does not implement Resurrection for whatever reason, Reincarnate can revive without CON loss, though it will change the character's race, which can have strange consequences.)

Also, I don't remember Restoration causing CON loss, at least not in P&P.
Posted April 10, 2022
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gogwitcher300: Greetings to all

Do temples heal level drain?
There only options are:
Cure wounds
Raise Dead
Cure blindness and disease

But no level drain cure

There is a restoration scroll here:
http://www.crpgnotes.com/pool-of-radiance/por-maps/pool-of-radiance-mendors-library/

And the walkthrough states that the temple services can cure me. How is that accomplished?

[Edited]
I managed to doge every attack from the librarian spectre.
Thus no level drain. I presume that i''ll encounter even more undead with level drain attacks

Thank you for your time & assistance
gogwitcher300
You just have to keep reloading this game until you get it right (ie he always misses)

No restoration at temples... this is a BIG oversight on the devs' part. Extremely annoying.

Best I can suggest: magic missiles from your mage, prayer from your cleric.

IIRC Spectres are Special on the 1e turning chart. Don't bother turning, you don't have a chance.
Post edited April 10, 2022 by evilwillhunting
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