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Posted December 31, 2015
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Splatsch: I installed the game on my computer for the first time : Windows 7 64bits with an nvidia GT440 (a new "old" computer, thanks to a friend :))... And I encountered the lag ; before, I was on a laptop with an ATI Mobility 5470HD with an old driver and there wasn't any trouble.

But I found a way to "fix" it (for me) : I uninstalled my graphic card driver (v 361.43) and reinstalled an older version, which is recommended to be able to play some GOG games (like Dungeon Keeper 2 for example) : v337.88. And it works for me :D
I can't say for sure that it's the solution, but for me it seems to have solved the problem... Hope this will help some people :)
Progress! :D
I'll start with testing graphic card settings and then check some older drivers. I'm on a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 with a gazillion drivers but I can test some of them.
Posted January 13, 2016
try applying the registry edit mentioned in the stutter fix post for Chaos Gate, to Final Liberation's registry entry. It fixed the overlay delay for me on Win10.

Sorry, I'm not eligible to post links, you'll have to do a search of the forums and find the post for yourself. It's titled "[Windows 10] Stuttering fix for renamed executable!", in the Chaos Gate forum.

Gib.
Posted January 14, 2016
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GibsonXXI: try applying the registry edit mentioned in the stutter fix post for Chaos Gate, to Final Liberation's registry entry. It fixed the overlay delay for me on Win10.

Sorry, I'm not eligible to post links, you'll have to do a search of the forums and find the post for yourself. It's titled "[Windows 10] Stuttering fix for renamed executable!", in the Chaos Gate forum.

Gib.
Do I have to rename the exe?
Posted January 14, 2016
Also seems to work on Windows 8.1! I didn't have to rename the .exe--in fact doing so crashed the game.

The steps were slightly different from in the Chaos Gate link. I changed the data to:

$~ DWM8And16BitMitigation 8And16BitTimedPriSync 8And16BitAggregateBlts Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation RUNASADMIN HIGHDPIAWARE WIN98

A huge thanks to both GibsonXXI and drk84x!

JUST IN CASE WARNING: I've edited the registry before. If you haven't then know that you should be very, very careful.

Edit: Ugh. The forum is breaking up the text.
Okay, so a more in-depth explanation. The registry said this before the fix:
$~ DWM8And16BitMitigation RUNASADMIN HIGHDPIAWARE WIN98

Comparing to the fix posted by drk84x on the Chaos Gate Forum, I had to add the new lines. Specifically:

8And16BitTimedPriSync 8And16BitAggregateBlts Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation

I added it between DWM8And16BitMitigation and RUNASADMIN and it seems to work fine.
Post edited January 14, 2016 by Daren
Posted January 15, 2016
No, just the registry edits are required. The EXE rename is specific to Chaos Gate, only.

You may need to retain the "RUNASADMIN" flag if that's present in your registry entry for Final Liberation. I couldn't remember whether I had already set the shortcut to run as administrator (via the compatibility tab) already, or not, that's why I didn't mention it.

each flag needs to be separated by a clearspace, I left the "RUNASADMIN" flag last, and copied in everything else from the Chaos Gate entry I had already applied, which since I have that installed too, it's entry is right there in the same section as the one for final Liberation.

I went on a hunch that since both games experience a similar issue, and are both from the same era, the same fix might work for both.

You may find after a few hours of gameplay that the whole game begins stuttering, so once this occurs, just do a save at the point your at (either map screen or in-game), then fully exit Final Liberation and restart it, all should be fine after that. Not done any investigation regards this.

The game runs well for me, with cutscenes too. The cutscenes take a while to load, (maybe GOG has done something that transcodes them from the old smackplay format to something else on the fly, hence the delay?) Either way, no Win98 VM's required which is the way I have been getting these to run up till now (I own the retail boxed versions of both this and Chaos Gate since 1998).

Enjoy!

Gib.
Post edited January 15, 2016 by GibsonXXI
Posted January 16, 2016
Crap.
I'm on windows 10 and all I get is a crash. Granted I suddenly get a crash without your fix too. Maybe asshat bitdfedender. Bah. Alcohol! get back later.
Posted January 16, 2016
In case it matters, for reference I'm running Win10 Pro, build 10586, and my AV is Norton Internet Security.

Gib.
Posted January 17, 2016
I can play, but the fix seems to greatly lower the game's stability--I've had two crashes today, and the game never randomly crashed without the fix.
Posted February 13, 2016
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Daren: Also seems to work on Windows 8.1! I didn't have to rename the .exe--in fact doing so crashed the game.

The steps were slightly different from in the Chaos Gate link. I changed the data to:

$~ DWM8And16BitMitigation 8And16BitTimedPriSync 8And16BitAggregateBlts Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation RUNASADMIN HIGHDPIAWARE WIN98

A huge thanks to both GibsonXXI and drk84x!

JUST IN CASE WARNING: I've edited the registry before. If you haven't then know that you should be very, very careful.

Edit: Ugh. The forum is breaking up the text.
Okay, so a more in-depth explanation. The registry said this before the fix:
$~ DWM8And16BitMitigation RUNASADMIN HIGHDPIAWARE WIN98

Comparing to the fix posted by drk84x on the Chaos Gate Forum, I had to add the new lines. Specifically:

8And16BitTimedPriSync 8And16BitAggregateBlts Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation

I added it between DWM8And16BitMitigation and RUNASADMIN and it seems to work fine.
Hi, can you give me a more detaled explanation on how you fixed it?
Posted February 18, 2016
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Okay, a more in-depth (hopefully) description:

1: Open regedit. BE VERY CAREFUL HERE I AM NOT KIDDING.
2: Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Windows NT/CurrentVersion/AppCompatFlags/Layers
3: Look for Final Liberation's exe. It'll vary depending on where you installed it but it should end with Epic40K.exe.
4: Right click this and select "modify".
5: You should have the following in the Value Data field:
$~ DWM8And16BitMitigation RUNASADMIN HIGHDPIAWARE WIN98
You need to add this:

8And16BitTimedPriSync 8And16BitAggregateBlts Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation

Add it after DWM8And16BitMitigation and before RUNASADMIN (at least that's where I added it).
6: Assuming the game starts up you should be able to activate the movement and firing shadows. However, I found the game is now much less stable so save atleast once per turn, both in battle and on the campaign map.
Posted July 11, 2016
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Daren: Okay, a more in-depth (hopefully) description (...)
Worked like a charm, and so far (3 campaign maps in a row - 5-6 hours of playing) not a single crash. The beer is on me here, I appreciate sharing the workaround!
Posted July 31, 2016
I'm getting this issue on win7, I'm guessing the Regedits won't work for me as they're for Win10 and 8. Anyone have any ideas?
Posted August 05, 2016
I was just going to report this in the forum and see that it's been already solved, great job guys!!!
Posted December 12, 2016
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Daren: Also seems to work on Windows 8.1! I didn't have to rename the .exe--in fact doing so crashed the game.

The steps were slightly different from in the Chaos Gate link. I changed the data to:

$~ DWM8And16BitMitigation 8And16BitTimedPriSync 8And16BitAggregateBlts Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation RUNASADMIN HIGHDPIAWARE WIN98

A huge thanks to both GibsonXXI and drk84x!

JUST IN CASE WARNING: I've edited the registry before. If you haven't then know that you should be very, very careful.

Edit: Ugh. The forum is breaking up the text.
Okay, so a more in-depth explanation. The registry said this before the fix:
$~ DWM8And16BitMitigation RUNASADMIN HIGHDPIAWARE WIN98

Comparing to the fix posted by drk84x on the Chaos Gate Forum, I had to add the new lines. Specifically:

8And16BitTimedPriSync 8And16BitAggregateBlts Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation

I added it between DWM8And16BitMitigation and RUNASADMIN and it seems to work fine.
Where exactly in the regedit can I find these?
Posted April 07, 2017
Anyone emailed GOG this fix so they can patch the installation?
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