Aww i was enjoying that debate. Shame Arctodus had turn all Troll on you. Guess he couldnt stand the heat huh? lol What a gimp.

Except, again, that is not true.
So, let me get this right, you sit here and do the digital equivalent of holding your fingers in your ears and yelling "I'm right and you're wrong" and yet we are the child-like ones? Sure... Whatever floats your boat. Just remember, logical fallacies don't get you anywhere - and yes ad hominem attacks are included among those.
Once again, you use an ad hominem attack. But anyways, sure, I'll just drop out of grad school and give "that education thing a try" - oh wait, I already am.
Another ad hominem attack, wonderful. Please stop before you dig a deeper hole for yourself.

Billions of flies like to eat shit. That doesn't nessesarily mean it's tasty.

You post a response like this and accuse ME of a lack of maturity. You have shown your true colours and shown yourself up.
You complain and accuse Strix that his acting like a fanboy is impeding 'logical debate'; yet here you are kicking and screaming like a spoiled brat because two individuals have opinions you don't like.
And where did i state i prefer FO1 to FO3? Try actually reading the content of a post and responding to that. It was your inability to except and respect that Strix had an opinion and fully functioning brain all of his very own and able to judge what he likes or doesn't without you informing him that he is 'wrong'.
I don't know how you got your head in such a place that you are unable to handle views which don't line up with your own.
And art is for everyone. Do you picket your local gallery and demand only those people with YOUR level of maturity or sufficient knowledge in 'the relative fields' be allowed entry?
'Everyone and everything is special' is a remark neither i, nor Strix made, but don't let that get in your way of sticking words in other people's mouths and responding to your own arguements. Makes life easier doesn't it?
The only thing that is clear by your post is that you have many, many issues and the same tired old arguement.
Hell i might just stick 'Blinded By Nostalgia' on a t-shirt. 'Cos thats the only reason anyone, anywhere would ever prefer an older game to that of a newer one. Right?
Unless of course...not everyone thinks the way you would like them too. Damn..can an issue-filled narcissistic like yourself even imagine such a terrible world? Probably not.

Sorry, I was referring to Strix when I wrote that. I thought it was clear when I began with 'Children' that I was not addressing you exclusively.
Now your 2nd paragraph quoted there shows a much more serious inability to read and comprehend the content of a post. I'll leave it to you to figure out what is wrong. Hint: I never said that newer games are inherently better.
I appreciate that you are trying to pass on your clearly impressive intellect on to me, but I can't figure out this sentence.
It's hard, but I've learned to expect ignorance and stupidity. Now I try to help people out when I can.
I didn't plan on responding again, but ignorance annoys me. You can't seem to separate an objective consideration of aesthetics with personal preferences. Here is some reading material:
Kant's critique of aesthetical judgement: http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=1217&layout=html#chapter_97431
Plato's Hippias Major (What is beauty) : http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0180%3Atext%3DHipp.%20Maj.%3Apage%3D297
Both are queued to where you should start reading.

Well ,since you are recommending Kant and Plato, I would like to add the first volume of Schopenhauer's 'The World as Will and Representation' and Hume's 'Of the Standard of Taste' - and when you are done with those, if you have not read them already since both authors are fairly standard in any western philosophy course, I'll toss another couple of items at you.
Now there are, of course, many more philosophical works, and some of these even conflict with one another, so I am sure you will understand when I say that since I am not a follower of Plato or of Kant, even though I may agree with them on occasion, there is no reason why their arguments should be the final word on the subject. To that end Friedrich Nietzsch had a nice quip about the subject; "All of life is a dispute over taste and tasting." In other words the entirety of our existence is spent fighting over what is good and what is not.
Anyways, I must abandon this for now and leave my laptop. Goodnight and goodbye fair follower of the categorical imperative.

Bravo! Ugh, is there anything more obnoxious than an art snob?
Belay that opinion; I've been following the fundie's attempts to impose dogma onto the entire Texas public school system, so I stand corrected, there are worse things than seeing others as beneath you due to differences in taste.

Strix wins this one based on Schopenhauer's superiority to Kant.
Arctodus, I will reconsider your position if your reply contains the precise mathematical formula which determines artistic merit across multiple media.

Correcting and pointing out spelling errors, the last bastion of failed arguments and refuted statements across the internet, again you reveal an absence of integrity. Followed by another telling insight with your pretence of being unable to understand the entirety of the sentence as a result..
How did i try and pass myself off as having an impressive intellect? I posted my opinion is all. Should i try your approach? In lieu of actually having anything to say i will throw out a couple of links to discerning sites and hope such psuedo-intellectual bullshit will serve as my own stunning counter argument. Why engage my own brain and try and formulate my own ideas when i can simply use those of the ancient philosopher's or Kant?
Your lament of expecting ignorance and stupidity, followed by your condescension when you inform me of 'wanting to help where you can' is again another telling insight.
And of course you didn't plan on responding further. Why would you? You have had nothing constructive to say for the last couple of posts other than repeatedly telling me i lack intelligence. If this carries on, even an individual as well read as yourself will have to pull the thesaurus out to find fresh ways of calling me dumb.
How you have conducted yourself throughout this exchange has revealed a man with no class, swaddled so completely by his own insecurities that different viewpoints and ideas are met with contempt and abuse.
You like to use the words of others rather than your own, so i will finish with a quote from Ralph Waldo Emerson.
Character is higher than intellect...

Kant?
Plato?
Those are nothing but a poor man's Stephenie Meyer, and you know it, Arctodus my dear chestnut.
Why, someone who is clearly so unfurnishedly intellectual as yourself should exume the very foie gras of the so called 'candelabriate' of those in opposition to you.
And to the 'Arctodus-deniers,' I leave this;
Quite simply, dear imbecites, regarder.
(That's french)
Fallout 3 is better than Fallout 1 because Plato and Kant and also Journalism.
Anyways, I must abandon this for now and leave my laptop. Goodnight and goodbye fair follower of the categorical imperative.

ça ne vous regarde pas...

Anyone notice the OP, xeno121, never posted again?! So don't understand why he/she bothered!

Troll alert.
This is exactly what i was talking about a few threads down. People that praise a game most on this forum are indifferent to and spewing their personal opinions as facts. Sigh...

Here we go for the x time on the f3 hate. Meanwhile in the real world...