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I understand the gog version of Fallout 1 is censored (with no kids etc). However, I found no information as to censorship on Fallout 2 (gog version). So is Fallout 2 on gog censored in any way?
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keremix: I understand the gog version of Fallout 1 is censored (with no kids etc). However, I found no information as to censorship on Fallout 2 (gog version). So is Fallout 2 on gog censored in any way?
Even if it is "censored" you can always use Restoration Project:
http://falloutmods.wikia.com/wiki/Killap%27s_Fallout_2_Restoration_Project
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keremix: I understand the gog version of Fallout 1 is censored (with no kids etc). However, I found no information as to censorship on Fallout 2 (gog version). So is Fallout 2 on gog censored in any way?
The gogwiki
http://www.gogwiki.com/wiki/List_of_censored_games
says it is.
But I think it's wrong, unless something changed since I played it. My copy had kids in it.
I had read somewhere that the problem about Fallout 2 on gog is the inability to kill the kids. Does this make sense?
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keremix: I had read somewhere that the problem about Fallout 2 on gog is the inability to kill the kids. Does this make sense?
Did you see that in our forum? I don't think that's true. When I was in the Den I got pissed when the kids kept picking my pocket so I killed a couple of the little brats. The bad part is that the town residents all turn hostile when you do that so I restored a previous save and went back to normal. But those kids died just like anyone else I shot. I'll try searching the forum here to see what others are saying.

Maybe someone else will chime in here and correct me or verify what I'm remembering.

final edit: the more I search the more I think that people are confusing Fallout 1 and 2. Fallout 1 is the UK censored version and I'm pretty sure that Fallout 2 is the US uncensored version and that would mean that the wiki page is wrong. Eventually I'll redownload and play again but that won't help you now :-)

the real FINAL edit: I'm more confident now. Check this out:
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/uncensored_us_version_of_fallout_12
Post edited November 28, 2012 by Kank
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keremix:
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Kank: The gogwiki
http://www.gogwiki.com/wiki/List_of_censored_games
says it is.
But I think it's wrong, unless something changed since I played it. My copy had kids in it.
Did you install any unofficial patches? Killap's restoration mod and the other mod that just fixes stuff bring the kids back.

The official version has invisible kids.
They still steal your stuff but you can't kill them because you can't target them because you can't see them because they're invisible.

Don't know the answer to the original question though, except to add another vote to using the killaps patch.
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Jarmo: Did you install any unofficial patches? Killap's restoration mod and the other mod that just fixes stuff bring the kids back.

The official version has invisible kids.
They still steal your stuff but you can't kill them because you can't target them because you can't see them because they're invisible.

Don't know the answer to the original question though, except to add another vote to using the killaps patch.
Now you got me confused again. :) By "official version" do you mean gog version or not?
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keremix: Now you got me confused again. :) By "official version" do you mean gog version or not?
I mean the censored version. :)
I'm not sure if GOG version is one or the other, because the first patch here fixes that away anyway.
http://www.gog.com/forum/fallout_series/fallout_2_mods/page1

And I see no reason to play fallout without applying at least the unofficial 1.2 patch (the first in the list). So I haven't tried to play the vanilla gog version.
The first version of Fallout 2 you could download was uncensored. It was replaced by the censored version which turns the kids invisible. But you can install a a patch to remove the censorship.
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Kank: The gogwiki
http://www.gogwiki.com/wiki/List_of_censored_games
says it is.
But I think it's wrong, unless something changed since I played it. My copy had kids in it.
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Jarmo: Did you install any unofficial patches? Killap's restoration mod and the other mod that just fixes stuff bring the kids back.

The official version has invisible kids.
They still steal your stuff but you can't kill them because you can't target them because you can't see them because they're invisible.

Don't know the answer to the original question though, except to add another vote to using the killaps patch.
I used Killaps unofficial patch and the readme didn't say anything about restoring kids. I only wanted the bug fixes instead of the mods so I avoided the Restoration Project at that time.

But I see below that the version did change over time from uncensored to censored. So I'll stay out of this discussion since more knowledgeable people showed up. Censoreship of this game makes no sense. I will continue to vote for only uncensored versions!
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kmonster: The first version of Fallout 2 you could download was uncensored. It was replaced by the censored version which turns the kids invisible. But you can install a a patch to remove the censorship.
Thank you for the info. I never knew that.
I guess next time I'll be using the Restoration patch.
Post edited November 29, 2012 by Kank
My chain of logic would go something like: As of the 2.0 installer GOG's version of Fallout 2 uses sfall, sfall requires a US version of Fallout, the US version wasn't censored, therefore the GOG version isn't censored. If it is then they must using some weird hybrid of the US exe and the UK data files, which would be very weird, albeit not impossible.

Can't someone just redownload the game and check for sure? :p Or to take that a step further, why don't I just redownload the game and check... ~wanders off~ Edit: (Done. Neither game is censored.)

Personally I feel it's a moot point anyway, because no-one should be playing without the unofficial patch, and the unofficial patch restores children if required. :p
Post edited November 30, 2012 by timeslip
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timeslip: ...and the unofficial patch restores children if required.
I couldn't find that in the readme. But if anybody would know it would be you ;-)
Thank you and thank you for working on it.
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Kank: I couldn't find that in the readme. But if anybody would know it would be you ;-)
Thank you and thank you for working on it.
I didn't work on the unofficial patch, just on sfall. I also didn't know off the top of my head. I just downloaded it and checked the art folder for the child frms that were missing from the UK version.
Post edited November 29, 2012 by timeslip
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timeslip: I didn't work on the unofficial patch, just on sfall. I also didn't know off the top of my head. I just downloaded it and checked the art folder for the child frms that were missing from the UK version.
Sorry. I thought you worked on the patch because you're mentioned in several places in the readme. "Thanks to Timeslip..." So your work somehow contributed.
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Kank: Sorry. I thought you worked on the patch because you're mentioned in several places in the readme. "Thanks to Timeslip..." So your work somehow contributed.
The unofficial patch includes (and requires) sfall, so it's true in a way, I guess. I didn't work on the patch itself though.

Edit: I've downloaded both games, and in the 2.0 installers neither game is censored.
Post edited November 30, 2012 by timeslip