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hey
so a few people recommended that i play fallout 1 and 2
i'd like to know 2 things
-is the combat hard , good etc.
-is the story any good?
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It's hard and it's good, but you can customize that.
Post edited June 19, 2012 by mrmarioanonym
The combat is very well done. It is turn based so some people have an issue with that. But it is also tactical turn based combat so you really have to put some thought in what you do as opposed to Final Fantasy turn based combat. In Fallout you are given a set amount of time each turn to perform whatever actions you deem appropriate, this time is displayed as Action Point (AP) and every actiong costs a set amount. Taking a step uses 1AP, reloading a gun takes 2, going into your inventory takes 4, shooting a pistol takes 5 and carefully lining up a shot with your sniper rifle takes 8. How many AP you get per round is part of character creation and development.

The story and setting is one of the best aspects of Fallout. It is dark and depressing and plays a bit like an old western movie. Wander the desert looking for supplies and information before your people run out off clean drinking water, and when you finally are able to save your people... well... let's just say thats just the halfway point.
you really can't miss with this one. FO has one of the best stories of all time, great atmosphere and big number of so called "talking heads".

Combat is kinda hard, and sometimes forces you to go somewhere else to develop your character further, but that's why its a great game.

FO 2 is bigger better stronger :) but unfortunately unfinished. Again, you can't miss with this one :) I prefer 2 over 1, but that's my personal opinion

Hope this helps :)
If you have the time, its worth going trough 1.. then 2. Maybe even tactics? Then onto Bethesda's games. You will get your money's worth and then some.

Fallout 1 has great story and pretty great combat. It has a very distinct way of handing Level/skill/gear. As you can, with some sneaky tactics and underhanded tricks get pretty good gear at the start of the game...

How ?

Well... go find out!
Definitely worth playing. I beat them first between 2010 and 2011, I think, so I have no nostalgia for them. They definitely hold up just as great games that should still be experienced today.

And if you were a fan of the Bethesda/Obsidian titles it's fun to go back and catch references and backstory you may have missed.
Post edited June 21, 2012 by Gibush
Fallout is so good your mind will explode like a blood sausage when playing it.

It's also a lot easier to get into and understand the way combat and stats work than something like Baldur's Gate.
If you enjoy RPG's then get Fallout and Fallout 2 -- they are considered classics for a reason and that reason is that they're simply among the finest games in their genre. A great setting, great stories, a great rules system and great tactical turn-based combat make for a truly unique experience.

The other games in the series warrant a warning though -- not because they're not good, but because they might not be what you expect after playing F1 and F2... Fallout Tactics is, as the title states, a tactics game -- it can be compared to Jagged Alliance 2 and should be considered a spin-off instead of a true Fallout sequel. It's still a very good game, but light on story and with a greater focus on combat. The rules system remains largely intact however, so it shouldn't be too difficult to get into after playing the first two games.

Fallout 3 was the first Fallout game released by Bethesda and really shook up the series as it went from 2D isometric turn-based gameplay to 3D first person real time gameplay with the option to pause combat. I'm personally not a big fan of F3 -- Bethesda's writing skills are not even in the same universe as Black Isle's, and as a result the game felt like a big boring sandbox... In my opinion it can be skipped -- it's by far the least of the "core" (F1, F2, F3, F:NV) releases in the series.

Fallout: New Vegas is, in my opinion, the true modern sequel to F1 and F2. I think this is common knowledge, but I'll repeat it here nonetheless: F:NV was not developed by Bethesda, as F3 was, but by Obsidian Entertainment, which consists of many people from Interplay's now-defunct Black Isle division, who developed F1 and F2 and were working on a different Fallout 3 before that project was cancelled and the license sold to Bethesda. In other words -- these guys (Obsidian) know Fallout. Intimately. And what they crafted in Fallout: New Vegas is a masterpiece. If you ever get around to playing it, make sure you get all the DLC's, play with Hardcore Mode enabled, and use Josh Sawyer's JSawyer Mod -- he was the project director on F:NV and created that mod for his personal use, with the intention fix some remaining bugs and balance issues, and (most importantly) tweak the difficulty in Hardcore Mode -- creating what is by far the best Fallout experience since Fallout 2. Highly recommended.
Post edited June 25, 2012 by Lorfean
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Lorfean: Fallout 3 was the first Fallout game released by Bethesda and really shook up the series as it went from 2D isometric turn-based gameplay to 3D first person real time gameplay with the option to pause combat. I'm personally not a big fan of F3 -- Bethesda's writing skills are not even in the same universe as Black Isle's, and as a result the game felt like a big boring sandbox... In my opinion it can be skipped -- it's by far the least of the "core" (F1, F2, F3, F:NV) releases in the series.
Yes, Fallouts 1&2 are vastly different experiences from Fallout 3. Though I wouldn't call Fallout 3 a bad game per se. I like to think of it as a standalone Bethesda action RPG that they designed after playing not enough Fallout. To think of it as a sequel really doesn't work as well.
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Lorfean: If you enjoy RPG's then get Fallout and Fallout 2 -- they are considered classics for a reason and that reason is that they're simply among the finest games in their genre. A great setting, great stories, a great rules system and great tactical turn-based combat make for a truly unique experience.

The other games in the series warrant a warning though -- not because they're not good, but because they might not be what you expect after playing F1 and F2... Fallout Tactics is, as the title states, a tactics game -- it can be compared to Jagged Alliance 2 and should be considered a spin-off instead of a true Fallout sequel. It's still a very good game, but light on story and with a greater focus on combat. The rules system remains largely intact however, so it shouldn't be too difficult to get into after playing the first two games.

Fallout 3 was the first Fallout game released by Bethesda and really shook up the series as it went from 2D isometric turn-based gameplay to 3D first person real time gameplay with the option to pause combat. I'm personally not a big fan of F3 -- Bethesda's writing skills are not even in the same universe as Black Isle's, and as a result the game felt like a big boring sandbox... In my opinion it can be skipped -- it's by far the least of the "core" (F1, F2, F3, F:NV) releases in the series.

Fallout: New Vegas is, in my opinion, the true modern sequel to F1 and F2. I think this is common knowledge, but I'll repeat it here nonetheless: F:NV was not developed by Bethesda, as F3 was, but by Obsidian Entertainment, which consists of many people from Interplay's now-defunct Black Isle division, who developed F1 and F2 and were working on a different Fallout 3 before that project was cancelled and the license sold to Bethesda. In other words -- these guys (Obsidian) know Fallout. Intimately. And what they crafted in Fallout: New Vegas is a masterpiece. If you ever get around to playing it, make sure you get all the DLC's, play with Hardcore Mode enabled, and use Josh Sawyer's JSawyer Mod -- he was the project director on F:NV and created that mod for his personal use, with the intention fix some remaining bugs and balance issues, and (most importantly) tweak the difficulty in Hardcore Mode -- creating what is by far the best Fallout experience since Fallout 2. Highly recommended.
Wow, I had no idea about that mod. I'm hoping to pick up NV GOTY edition on Steam in the coming Summer Sale (bought it on day 1 on Xbox 360, recently built a gaming PC). I think I'll definitely try it out.
You should. You can download the latest version on his site.
Sorry if I'm hijacking the thread - The thing that puts me off FO1 is that it's consistently being labelled as a "hard" game.

Is it difficult because of the combat, how tough enemies are and/or puzzles/quest completion?

If it's one or all the above (or something I haven't mentioned) is there a mod to make it easier? I have looked in the mods and q&a threads but haven't found anything.

Thanks
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pigdog: ...
Don't have fallout installed atm, but i think you can set the difficulty in the options, lowering difficulty would raise your skills so you would have easier time dealing in combat (and ouside of it).
Post edited June 26, 2012 by Pulzarokkit
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pigdog: ...
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Pulzarokkit: Don't have fallout installed atm, but i think you can set the difficulty in the options, lowering difficulty would raise your skills so you would have easier time dealing in combat (and ouside of it).
I should have mentioned that I know there is a difficulty switch as I looked it up on youtube. However, I'm likely to struggle if that isn't very forgiving which is why I was trying to establish if that was easy enough for a *softcore* gamer or whether I should look towards the mod community.
I wouldn't call it a hard game, it just takes a bit more effort than many newer gamers are used to. For example you actually need to read the manual to learn how to play. There is not a tutorial where it says "Press the Target Enemy key, did you notice how you are now tegeting an enemy?" There is also no hand holding when doing quests, you need to follow the in game dialogue to know where to go and what to do. This actually would be very hard to do in Fallout because many quests have multiple solutions that have certain stat and skill requirements and cannot all be achieved with the exact same character. This also means that no one character can ever be good at everything. You can max out stats and skills but not all of them at once so you will never become the indestructible killing maching that you can be in other games. In fact even at the very end when you have the best armor available you can still die in one hit.