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So I see the post about this being the European one with missing children and all. I also noticed that the pics for the Chem skills are wrong.
This is what I remember for Chem Reliant.
[url=]http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Chem_Reliant[/url]
And what I get is the pic for Chem Resistant minus some syringes.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Chem_Resistant
Anybody notice if there is any other stuff cut or changed and is there a patch or mod for it?
Post edited March 21, 2009 by NESWizard
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I don't know. Of course that's just pixels but i can't force myself to play a bad character in any of the games. I'm a nice guy. I can't play female characters also, it just doesn't feel right. Maybe I take it way to seriously.
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Summit: I don't know. Of course that's just pixels but i can't force myself to play a bad character in any of the games. I'm a nice guy. I can't play female characters also, it just doesn't feel right. Maybe I take it way to seriously.

yeah, me too. i always play as a male always as a human. even if the other races are better...
but being bad is fun, its part of the gaming experience. i finished fallout 2 the first 3-4 times as a good person. then i wanted to try a "new" perspective :P
For the record, I don't care if you play evil in a game, I just personally don't like it. Makes me feel bad about myself. Not that I condemn anyone else from playing evil in a game.
I tried to play evil in most games ....and I just can't do it....no matter how hard I try. Yeah it's all just pixels in the end but damn it is difficult to play evil ....
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Summit: I don't know. Of course that's just pixels but i can't force myself to play a bad character in any of the games. I'm a nice guy. I can't play female characters also, it just doesn't feel right. Maybe I take it way to seriously.

I too play mostly goody two shoes (robbing everyone blind and taking everything that is not bolted or nailed to the floor does not count! They don't need em anyway!) although I sometime play the selfish mercenary role (squeese as much money from people who I know can affort it, doing good deeds only to maintain reputation or when I feel like it). Of cource I some time break down and decide to kill everyone on sight for stress relief and to just to see what happens if I do so. Of cource I return back in time using magical Load spell. Sometimes I rinse and repeat this until I'm satisfied :P
Unlike you I have no special aversion against female player characters (I actually have liked the games with female main character). I prefer to play tough female characters, someone that does not need to lean on anyone for support (pretty much as I play my male characters). I really can't properly roleplay a cute, meek or weak female (much less male :P) character. I also play only lesbian female characters. I can't stomach male courtship. Usually how ever playing male gender is more rewarding from male player.
I actually wanted to try playing lesbian in alter ego but unfortunately you can date only males as a female :( Massive oversight!
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JudasIscariot: I tried to play evil in most games ....and I just can't do it....no matter how hard I try. Yeah it's all just pixels in the end but damn it is difficult to play evil ....

Probably because the evil options if they are available tend to lean toward the sadistic, brutal and insane side of evilness, not selfserving manipulating brick side of evilness (this is usually the neutral option in most cases.
Post edited March 29, 2009 by Petrell
There was only one game I managed to finish as a villain and that was SW:KotOR (the only reason is I really love this game and had to check every path) I felt really bad with what I've done and promised myself to never do it again.
I usually play characters like Geralt from The Witcher. Not bad but not entirely good either. I won't hurt anybody without good reason, but try not to step on my toe. And I'm not a paladin who protects people for a good word. money is what counts these days, that's why I steal almost everything that is stealable.
Post edited March 29, 2009 by Summit
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Summit: There was only one game I managed to finish as a villain and that was SW:KotOR (the only reason is I really love this game and had to check every path) I felt really bad with what I've done and promised myself to never do it again.
Same here. Made me feel so bad killing all those innocent people just to get the dark side bonuses.
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Summit: I usually play characters like Geralt from The Witcher. Not bad but not entirely good either. I won't hurt anybody without good reason, but try not to step on my toe. And I'm not a paladin who protects people for a good word. money is what counts these days, that's why I steal almost everything that is stealable.
That is one of the reasons I consider Fallout to be such a great game. You can be a good character and still do evil things when you feel like it. So many RPGs I've played (Baldur's Gate and Mass Effect included) force you to either be completely good and allow yourself to be witlessly betrayed by all of the evil characters or to be completely evil and kill all the women and children just because you weren't hugged enough as a child.
Fallout really did hit the nail on the head when it comes to ambiguity and subtlety in moral decisions. I almost always play a "good" character, but that doesn't stop me from working for Decker and killing all of the Children of the Cathedral at all of their different outposts. "There are two types of people in this world Lloyd. Those with loaded guns and those who dig."
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NESWizard: ...I also noticed that the pics for the Chem skills are wrong.
This is what I remember for Chem Reliant.
[url=]http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Chem_Reliant[/url]
And what I get is the pic for Chem Resistant minus some syringes.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Chem_Resistant
Anybody notice if there is any other stuff cut or changed and is there a patch or mod for it?

This is true for Fallout 1 and Fallout 2. Tried searching for a list of things that got hit by the Censorship Hammer but found nothing... Couldn't even find a picture of the one that you are mentioning and I couldn't take a screen shot from game because it gets messed up. Makes me wonder: What if some quests were removed as well? Or items? Or dialog? Or scenes/characters? If anyone knows of this list please tell. And, of course, if there are patches which fix this. (i know about the children patch so not counting that one)
EDIT: Screens added
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Post edited April 25, 2009 by Chudomix
I guess I'm different from most of you here. I have trouble playing good characters. Can't stand giving away all my money and items to someone who isn't going to do something for me in return.
As was said, most games force you to be goody-two shoes or Hannibal Lector. I've always appreciated Fallout's gray scaled morality. Makes for a more realistic game where you CAN do what you want,good or bad.
If you take the option to be bad out, it cheapens the experience of the times when you (or I, sometimes) decide to commit acts of kindness.
Like some said, I always play a male charecter myself, playing female isnt right. Probably also because Roleplaying a woman feels wierd :).
Second I personally cant be an good person in a game. If I have my choice I always take the path of evil. Just feels better. Im doing enough good in RL. Dont feel like doing it in games.
And even if I do play a good char at start, convinced i can do it. It wont be long before I leave a trail of innocent deaths and atrocities behind me.
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NESWizard: ...I also noticed that the pics for the Chem skills are wrong.
This is what I remember for Chem Reliant.
[url=]http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Chem_Reliant[/url]
And what I get is the pic for Chem Resistant minus some syringes.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Chem_Resistant
Anybody notice if there is any other stuff cut or changed and is there a patch or mod for it?
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Chudomix: This is true for Fallout 1 and Fallout 2. Tried searching for a list of things that got hit by the Censorship Hammer but found nothing... Couldn't even find a picture of the one that you are mentioning and I couldn't take a screen shot from game because it gets messed up. Makes me wonder: What if some quests were removed as well? Or items? Or dialog? Or scenes/characters? If anyone knows of this list please tell. And, of course, if there are patches which fix this. (i know about the children patch so not counting that one)
EDIT: Screens added

Exactly, it's really frustrating not knowing what might or might not be changed. I hope some one comes up with a patch.
This one kinda got off topic didn't it. I have always found it hard to be "Evil" in a game. Don't like being booed in fable. Find myself apologizing when I loose control of a car in Crackdown. Feels really bad losing Pikmen or Modokens. Cringe when I loose a character in Baldurs Gate or Icewind Dale. My girlfriend thinks it cute but I kinda feel stupid. Guess I just take them too seriously.
Fallout US vs UK version?
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47250
I hope it helps.
Post edited April 28, 2009 by Drelmanes
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Drelmanes: Fallout US vs UK version?
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47250
I hope it helps.
I don't get a *BOOMclick* noise? :(
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NESWizard: So I see the post about this being the European one with missing children and all. I also noticed that the pics for the Chem skills are wrong.
Recently downloaded F2. Children are there, but addicts are labeled as "reliants"

So they are still somehow pushing the useless EU version.

Oh, I feel so protected by playing a game with altered namings. O gosh. I would probably start taking drugs, burning churches and shooting civilians, would EU not protect me from the word "addict" by replacing it with "reliant"

What the actual fok.

So they cannot add Left-SHIFT feature to highlight items on ground, but they can alter the game in tons of useless aspects.