I got dragon commander and while I loved the stuff on the ship the strategy elements where bland and completely broken to the point where I put it down and never finished the game because of them.

on to original sin, Im seeing lots of people rave about it but a few things are bothering me, seems a bit expensive for an isometic pc game? (almost sure I paid same or less for skyrim on release day) I have seen several videos mention issues with skill/levelup/power problems, is this going to be broken? (dragon commander)

tldr:is it broken?, why so expensive?, should I wait for it to go on sale ?

thanks

It is a very good game. It's in line with the Baldur's Gate serie, but not as complex and rich. But it's a hard game.

It has a few bugs, but the developer are quick for a fix.

To me it's worth the price

The price: It's a AAA-quality release. Larian isn't a four-person team working out of a garage, they're more like forty-plus people who've been making games for over a decade. For comparison, Baldur's Gate was in the $40-50 range when it was released in the 1990s; allowing for inflation, this game is cheaper. It's also not a five-hours-and-you're-done game.

Is it broken? AFAIK, I haven't run into any bugs worse than a dialog option left blank. There are some known bugs out there, some forum checking should fill you in better than I can.

This is one of only two games I've bought for myself for full brand-new price in several years, and I feel it was worth every single cent. I'm literally combing over my currently-packed schedule to figure out how to squeeze in an hour or two to play this game. Even more telling, I'm taking ten minutes out of my jam-packed day to assure somebody else that it's worth them spending their own hard-earned cash on.

Waiting for it to go on sale is always a viable strategy, and if you're not sure turn-based tactical RPG is your cup of tea, by all means check out some Let's Play videos.

Why do you compare the price of a 3d game to an isometric perspective game? Being isometric, does not mean it requires less work than a 3d game! And a game by being 3d, does not guarantee its quality if you understand what I mean.

The bugs will eventually get sorted out as the team (Larian) is constantly releasing new patches. As Luned said, see some Let's Play videos on youtube to see if you like it and then you can wait for a discount in the following months, id you're still unsure about the game. By that time, all the major bugs will be eliminated for sure. ;-)

Buy it, but on Steam, not here. Not only patches are late, but they also can screw up your game.

I actual bought Dragon Commander and tried it, but its not my piece of cake. Not much to say here for me :)

In D:OS nothing is broken beyond repair as far as I've seen. The interplay between quests is not really worked out yet, so you might end up with unsolvable tasks. This doesn't affect the main quest-line, though.

The game is 3D with top down view (same engine as Dragon Commander). You can zoom in, turn the camera and make some nice pictures of the characters. Every piece of armor and equipment looks different, you can change the colour of your armor.

Some 3D screens :)
http://i.imgur.com/uCwdQ96.jpg
large bow:
http://i.imgur.com/MqqhPkV.jpg

It is NOT an isometric game. Original Sin is full 3D. You can zoom in and out and you can rotate the camera. Do you know Dragon Age? It's the same.

Furthermore, the price has nothing to do with isometric or 3D. Original Sin is a huge game with lots of quests, a very well thought out skill and spell system and a lot of other content. You won't finish it in 10 hours. It's not as huge as Skyrim with its 150 hours+, but it's easily 50 hours+. I think I'm maybe not the right person to say anything about the game being broken or not. I've played many games that were said to be a completely broken and unplayable mess... and I enjoyed quite a few of them O.O But MY impression: It's perfectly playable and I haven't encountered any severe bugs. To be absolutely honest, I just noticed ONE bug. If one of your characters is hit with a status that damages your HP (poison, burning, etc.), your HP bar turns purple. Sometimes it doesn't change its color back to red although the negative status is gone for a long time already. But that's just something cosmetic and can be solved easily - just load a savegame (F5 Quicksave + F8 Quickload = done). Normally I don't buy games at release (full price) anymore. Every game I buy goes straight to my backlog, so why should I pay full price for anything? But I made an exception for Original Sin and I didn't regret it.

There are no other modern rpgs out there that are on par, besides the Witchers which I'm guessing you own already. Go for it.

I would wait until the price drops to 20£. I was influenced by the raving reviews and comments and got it full price.
While it is probably better than anything in the genre that came out over the last 5 years, it is not that good.

There is no point in going into details, but to summarize the game, I would say: The mechanics are sound, but the design is severely lacking.

PS 1. I played v 1.0.81 and only encountered a few glitches.
PS 2. Do NOT compare it to the Witcher games, which are more action oriented (mainly the 2nd one). It is more similar to Temple of Elemental Evil and Pool of Radiance: RoMD.
As far as the overall quality goes, it is closer to the Drakensang RPGs

Funny thing, the reason you give for buying on Steam is the same reason I use for buying on GOG.

I archive my GOG game installation exe’s and patches so that if something does go wrong, I can always roll-back to the previous version. Can’t do that with Steam’s forced update system.

Dragon Commander looks like a children's game to me--so I passed...;) D:OS is not in that category, I was pleased to see. It's much more adult fare, imo.

BTW, I have no earthly idea why some people are comparing D:OS to Baldur's Gate. I guess it's because both of these games have a story of sorts? Otherwise, there's no similarity at all. IIRC, Baldur's Gate was a 2d game when it shipped--story is much different, graphics are much different, game-play is much different. D:OS is fully a 3d game in every respect--and I think you've sort of confused "isometric"--isometric is merely a description of the camera's point of view--usually top-down or top-down-at-an-angle. Isometric has nothing to do with 3d/2d etc. (OK, to further clarify, "3d" here does not mean "stereoscopic" etc.---Grrrrrr---the marketeers have ruined another useful acronym.) Anyway, it just so happens that in D:OS, you can rotate the camera 360 degrees and free it, and you can zoom (mousewheel or key) all the way in to very close or all the way out to isometric. Your choice. Pretty sure you'd be wrong about Skyrim...;) Pretty sure it was $59.99 on release day--D:OS is $20 bucks cheaper @ $39.99. I waited until Steam's 2011 Christmas sale to buy Skyrim and got it for $30.21 (or some weird amount...but I was happy to do so.) You can buy the Legendary version of Skyrim now, which includes all of the DLC, for $29.99--so maybe that's what you were thinking about--three years after the game shipped. You can wait three years to pick up D:OS, but @ 39.99 right now, why wait? The game is only "broken" if you listen to people exploiting early game bugs to cheat because it made the game easier for them, or something...;) When a patch fixes an exploited cheat--they consider the game "broken" because it won't let them cheat like they'd been used to. I've had some amusing conversations about that on other forums...;)

No game is perfect--no game, and all of them get patches to fix various issues as they crop up (developers cannot possibly think of *everything* players might do or want to do before the game ships.) Skyrim was patched for years after release. But that's a *good* thing. So forget about "the game is broken" nonsense. It isn't. I'm playing it--I think it is great and has *tons* of potential!

I bought the game @ 1.0.81 and am now running the 1.0.107 version of it and am having a ball. That's all I can say, except this: don't compare any game you buy or evaluate with *any other game*--that's a loser's point of view, imo (by that I mean people start talking themselves out of enjoying a game before they get it.) Every game is unique. This is a refreshingly good one.

Also, via Steam, to play offline you have to jump through a few hoops to enable off-line mode. Not necessary with Gog software. I like Steam, too, and own several titles there, but having to be online to enable Steam's off-line mode is exactly why Steam itself is accused of being a form of DRM.

Howdy waltc. Looks like we have something in common!

More and more I find myself waiting for GOG’s release of any game. It can be tough, though: Tropico 3 is $14.99 on GOG where Steam is currently running a sale for less than $3.00 on the same game. I’m holding firm. . .painful, yes but I am holding out. I expect GOG will offer a healthy discount at some point (and likely has in the past).

For what it’s worth, look to this “best” answer for my understanding of isometric vs. perspective presentations here: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070124013325AAuKSex

Back at'ya, shawn-m..;)

You know, my gut tells me (and I usually follow my gut) to go with what I think is the best deal at the time...;) I like both Steam and Gog, and all things considered I find Gog's delivery simpler and less intrusive than Steam's--although there are a solid number of Steam titles that you can buy from Steam and actually run without invoking the Steamworks executable, first--but you have to know which games those are, or experiment with them to find out, or find non-Steam executables for those games so that you can run them outside of Steam, etc. Steam needs to do more work on its off-line mode...it's sort of confusing because Valve keeps saying they have work to do on offline yet but somehow it never seems to get done.

However, if Steam runs a game for $3 and Gog wants $15 then I would have no trouble buying from Steam all day long...;) It's business, it's competition...I try not to be dogmatic. The Best deal is the best deal, right? While I prefer Gog's distribution model I don't find Steam's so objectionable that I would turn down significant savings on a game I want to buy!

One last tidbit here that you can take for what it's worth: I would try and broaden my searches beyond "Yahoo! Answers" ...;) I've looked at them a few times, myself, and generally I've gotta' say I find the "answers" usually lacking some critical piece of info or else entirely mistaken. Much better info is usually only a few clicks away...

Yeah, the character building is pretty flexible and the combat has a lot of environment manipulation options, but the plot and quest solutions aren't quite as engaging or multidimensional as they'd aimed for. Granted, it's a very tall order to fill, and D:oS is very much worth it for TBS RPG gamers who like a better-than-token effort given to plot. But the plot isn't amazing IMO.