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Just wanted to share this with people:
The direct connection option in the games menu, is a major cluster screw, too much work to go through and it may not even work after that.

So the only possible way to do a Direct Connection with this game without a headache and or jumping through a bunch of hoops is to use something such Hamachi or some other VPN.

It's simple and painless.

1. Download, install, and create a network on Hamachi
2. Give out Hamachi network connection information and have people join it
3. Have people copy the Hamachi IP 4 into the Direct Connect menu of their game.
4. Launch Hamachi and start a game, and anyone on your network can join within the limits of the game

OH SO SIMPLE
Post edited July 24, 2014 by tx3000
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tx3000: Just wanted to share this with people:
The direct connection option in the games menu is a major cluster screw and is too much work that may not evenw ork after that so the only possible way to do a Direct Connection with this game without a headache or jumping through a bunch of hoops that might not even work is to use something such Hamachi or some other VPN.

It's simple and painless
I am using direct connect without problems here at home, yes it does require some configuring of your system but for those that know what they are doing it is simple.

1. In your router (often under Apps and Gaming), forward these 2 ports (23243, 23253 (just use both tcp and udp)) to the computer you are playing the game (find the ip of your computer by using ipconfig in a command promp window, should be Ethernet Adapter ... if you use a cord otherwise Wireless adapter ..., use the number in IPv4 Address . . . :).
2. Allow these ports for incoming traffic in your windows firewall (Add a new rule for incoming traffic).
3. Enable Direct connect in Divinity original sin config (you can press the top button on your minimap ingame to get the UI to enable it.)
4. Send your friend the internet ip you have http://www.whatsmyip.org/ can be seen here.
5. Have friend connect.
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@halldojo
That's just way, way too much unnecessary work. Why would anyone go through/want to go through that mess, when they can just do what I posted which is 100 times easier and ANYONE can join via direct connect with a simple joining of a network on Hamachi. On top of that What I posted allows total control over who joins and who doesn't because Hamachi has to be running in order for someone to join. If you give out the actual IP then anyone can join because it's always on.
Post edited July 24, 2014 by tx3000
Once in the game, the host can get their 'Server ID' to use with a Direct Connection, which should avoid some of the configuration needed for using an IP address (though even then I'd still just try it first and see if it works without specifically setting up port forwarding). The Server ID is only valid per session (changes if you exit the game or just back to the main menu), which may be a benefit or inconvenience, depending on who you are playing with. There is currently no way to get this value on the character creation screen, though, to allow someone to join there and customize their own character.
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When it comes to games, people don't want complicated math problems that are a headache. They just want simple click and go, which is exactly how it should and is supposed to be. All the work on that aspect is the responsibility of the developer. Something tons of players still never understand.

That's why I posted the instructions for Hamachi. It removes all the bullshit, and makes it simple.

To this day after over 10 years I still have never had anyone be able to explain port forwarding so it's understandable or it makes any sense.

There are always instructions missing and people assuming people are somehow supposed to magically understand things without ever going into full detail and turn it into school then use the excuse of it helps you learn..No it doesn't all it does is piss people off and causes arguments...
Post edited July 25, 2014 by tx3000
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tx3000: When it comes to games, people don't want complicated math problems that are a headache. They just want simple click and go, which is exactly how it should and is supposed to be. All the work on that aspect is the responsibility of the developer. Something tons of players still never understand.

That's why I posted the instructions for Hamachi. It removes all the bullshit, and makes it simple.

To this day after over 10 years I still have never had anyone be able to explain port forwarding so it's understandable or it makes any sense.

There are always instructions missing and people assuming people are somehow supposed to magically understand things without ever going into full detail and turn it into school then use the excuse of it helps you learn..No it doesn't all it does is piss people off and causes arguments...
Well the difference between instructions on port forwarding vs instructions for Hamachi are very different, with hamachi you have one thing you need to configure and it looks the same for everyone(Hamachi is a program that looks the same on everyones computer and thus can be explained with a single set of instructions), port forwarding is a bit different (It forwards all traffic that comes in on a specific port on said device to another IP number, basically if you foward port 5000 on your router to your computers ip the router will forward all the traffic that comes in on that number to your computer instead of reicieving them and try to do something with them or block them), now the problem with port forwarding instructions is you have to forward a port from the device that connects your computer to the internet and those devices have different UIs, this is why you do not see better instructions for port forwarding because it is impossible to list them all, this is why the information has to be generic and the person that needs to port forward will have to google how to do it for their own device.

If trying to learn something new or learn how things work piss you off then don´t do it, find another way. There is no bullshit in trying to explain to people how to do something because it is completely optional for people to use said way and instructions.
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@halldojo
Then it's the person's responsibility who made mention of port forwarding to provide every step on how to do ti directly in the thread they mentioned it in. If the person that posts about it or anyone else then tries to tell people to go look anything up OUTSIDE the thread then they're starting problems and are lazy!

Making people chase down information for ANY reason and then using the excuse of it's how you learn is a fucking moron. You don't post something in a thread and then tell people they need to go look up what the thread is talking about...That's point blank retarded..If people have to leave the thread for any reason then there is no point in being in the thread to begin with..No one is going to come to one place only to have to leave it...that being the case then they will avoid the entire thread in the first place..

I don't take to kindly in reading a topic saying this is how you do something, then find out that the topic doesn't contain all the information I need along with a bunch of baboons defending that bullshit with every excuse under the sun trying to turn it around on me for getting pissed because I have to go on a wild goose chase. FUCK THEM that's not how I operate. If something says it is going to explain something then I expect just that..if it doesn't the person who posted it is a fucking idiot

If people cannot post everything, then they shouldn't be posting, it's that simple.
Post edited July 27, 2014 by tx3000
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tx3000: Then it's the person's responsibility who made mention of port forwarding to provide every step on how to do ti directly in the thread they mentioned it in.
So if people mention port forwarding, should they include instructions for every router and modem with that function, or would it be enough to stick to, say, the top 5 manufacturers, and the top 10 products for each, with notes about any differences with different firmware versions?

Oh wait, you are "not go through and read a lot of unnecessary shit just to locate something that is mixed in somewhere".

You can not have it both ways.
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Raze_Larian: So if people mention port forwarding, should they include instructions for every router and modem with that function, or would it be enough to stick to, say, the top 5 manufacturers, and the top 10 products for each, with notes about any differences with different firmware versions?
Yep they do. and know why, because it's part of how to port forward, and and if the thread is titled HERE IS HOW TO PORT FORWARD or something referencing teaching, then it must have that information in it and if it doesn't the creator of that thread/topic is nothing more than a lazy fucking troll in a failed attempt top piss people off and cause problem

It doesn't matter how much work adding all that information is... If the topic doesn't contain that information then it isn't teaching how to port forward. So if people cannot provide all that information THEN DO NOT EVEN BOTHER CREATING THE TOPIC IN THE FIRST PLACE
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Raze_Larian: Oh wait, you are "not go through and read a lot of unnecessary shit just to locate something that is mixed in somewhere".
Got that right. If a thread contains abbreviations for things in the thread then they need to be posted right at the top with an explanation saying something such as..This is a list of abbreviations and their meanings that you will encounter throughout this thread, so that way when you come across them, you will already know what they mean.
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Raze_Larian: You can not have it both ways.
Wrong it can be done both ways, it's just lazy ass people that think the internet is school DO not want to take the time to do it both ways.
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tx3000: Wrong it can be done both ways
No, it is impossible to include all information about every possible set of instruction for port forwarding, and also not include unnecessary information. Any one person would need only 1 set of instructions, out of the thousands that could be posted.
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tx3000: Wrong it can be done both ways
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Raze_Larian: No, it is impossible to include all information about every possible set of instruction for port forwarding, and also not include unnecessary information. Any one person would need only 1 set of instructions, out of the thousands that could be posted.
No it's not impossible. It absolutely can be done. There is a difference between people not WANTING TO DO SOMETHING, and something not being able to be done and this is something People don't want to do.

But that is besides the point, the bottom line is if people don't want to take the time to provide all the information in one place, then they shouldn't be posting a topic titled This is how to (Insert Name) because that is a lie.

Have a topic with a title about showing/explaining how to do something that doesn't contain all the information in it that shows how to do what the topic title says it's going to..is a lie No excuses, no stories, no opinions

That's all there is to it.
Post edited July 28, 2014 by tx3000
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tx3000: It absolutely can be done.
Please provide an example of including every possible way to do something, while also not including unnecessary information for the one way that any particular person would need.
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Raze_Larian
I go through this same exact conversation with every single person every time they say something cannot be done. Something you should be aware of about myself is that you're talking to someone who makes tutorials out of sometimes very complex things that I simplify down so much that anyone reading it can follow it, understand it, and get it working or done, even if that person knows absolutely nothing about the subject. I even made a 5 part video series on how to properly make tutorials I have given to plenty of people (I PM's you with the that one).So here are some of the tutorials for modding some games that were release on the original XBOX.

MORROWIND
http: //www(DOT)indidev.com/viewforum.php?f=29&sid=4ebefd8162d4e8e6df3e7d90906f8a5e

FABLE
http: // www(DOT)indidev.com/viewforum.php?f=31&sid=4ebefd8162d4e8e6df3e7d90906f8a5e

Here is a G.E.C.K. editor VIDEO tutorial I made, a week after it was released. On a side note Fallout Nexus learned a lot of their modding knowledge from that tutorial.

http: //www(DOT)indidev.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=413

Here is a tutorial I wrote on how to hex edit:
http: //www(DOT)indidev.com/download/file.php?id=344


Want to know how to USE the skyrim creation kit to make mods because I have an extensive video tutorial on that as well but the difference between my tutorial and all the ones out there is that my tutorial is complete with information no other tutorial explains.

So no offense, but you seriously need stop saying things that I do, cannot be done.
Post edited July 28, 2014 by tx3000
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tx3000: So no offense, but you seriously need stop saying things that I do, cannot be done.
That's not what I said, but it's not worth saying it again.
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tx3000: So no offense, but you seriously need stop saying things that I do, cannot be done.
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Raze_Larian: That's not what I said, but it's not worth saying it again.
You outright stated posting all the the router information wouldn't be possible.

And you wanted examples of tutorials and things that get right to the point with no useless information so i gave them to you.

What more do you want?
Post edited July 28, 2014 by tx3000