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Posted March 24, 2016
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Guter: This new version is superior in every way. IMHO.
people dont want the original because they think it's better, but because its more compatible thanks to scummvm and dosbox.
Posted March 24, 2016
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Guter: This new version is superior in every way. IMHO.
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Cyphox: people dont want the original because they think it's better, but because its more compatible thanks to scummvm and dosbox.
Well then they should go buy the original...
Posted March 24, 2016
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Cyphox: people dont want the original because they think it's better, but because its more compatible thanks to scummvm and dosbox.
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darthspudius: Well then they should go buy the original...
Isn't that literally the point of this thread?
Posted March 24, 2016
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darthspudius: Well then they should go buy the original...
I would, if it was sold on GOG ;-)
Posted March 24, 2016
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darthspudius: Well then they should go buy the original...
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vv221: I would, if it was sold on GOG ;-)
But it is... :P
Posted March 25, 2016
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vv221: I would, if it was sold on GOG ;-)
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darthspudius: But it is... :P
It's not. SFX has been changed, as has the version of maniac mansion.

I'd also like to see the original DOTT available, even if I have to pay separately.

Just because a game has been remastered doesn't mean the original should be thrown away. Same with Monkey Island, Monkey Island 2 & Loom. All of them have changes in the version presented on GOG from the originals. And that's fine, but if you're going to do that let us buy the originals for posterity's sake if nothing else.
Post edited March 25, 2016 by ZarkonDrule
Posted March 25, 2016
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darthspudius: But it is... :P
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ZarkonDrule: It's not. SFX has been changed, as has the version of maniac mansion.

I'd also like to see the original DOTT available, even if I have to pay separately.

Just because a game has been remastered doesn't mean the original should be thrown away. Same with Monkey Island, Monkey Island 2 & Loom. All of them have changes in the version presented on GOG from the originals. And that's fine, but if you're going to do that let us buy the originals for posterity's sake if nothing else.
I honesty don't understand your logic. The remastered has the same playability as the original, except everything is improved. In fact they cared enough to keep the original graphical interface for nostalgia fans/purists (Like you) and even managed to secure rights for the obligatory Max cameo (Which has been cut from previous Lucasarts remasterings)

Keep in mind, I LOVED the original version when I was a kid, and still do. But seeing as I now have both versions in one, I see no reason to move backwards to only the original.
Post edited March 26, 2016 by Dartpaw86
Posted March 26, 2016
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Dartpaw86: I honesty don't understand your logic. The remastered has the same playability as the original, except everything is improved. In fact they cared enough to keep the original graphical interface for nostalgia fans/purists (Like you) and even managed to secure rights for the obligatory Max cameo (Which has been cut from previous Lucasarts remasterings) What more do you want?
The original audio track and a version of maniac mansion that I can save in.

I'm fairly happy with the remaster. It's not perfect, but it's decent, unlike the MI ones.

But since it does not contain 100% of the original experience, I still want to be able to buy the original game. I'm not asking for it to be a freebie.
Post edited March 26, 2016 by ZarkonDrule
Posted March 26, 2016
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Dartpaw86: I honesty don't understand your logic. The remastered has the same playability as the original, except everything is improved. In fact they cared enough to keep the original graphical interface for nostalgia fans/purists (Like you) and even managed to secure rights for the obligatory Max cameo (Which has been cut from previous Lucasarts remasterings) What more do you want?
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ZarkonDrule: The original audio track and a version of maniac mansion that I can save in.

I'm fairly happy with the remaster. It's not perfect, but it's decent, unlike the MI ones.

But since it does not contain 100% of the original experience, I still want to be able to buy the original game. I'm not asking for it to be a freebie.
Actually, seeing as you paid for the game regardless, I don't see why the original game can't be a freebie. Like Quest for Glory 1, Wizardry 7 and Police Quest 1, having the original, and remakes as separate games but packaged as the same file that you choose within the launcher. (Except for Wizardry 7 which you have to download the original as a separate file but is within the same purchase) Simon the Sorcerer and the 3 Goblins games kind of do this, while not remakes, the updated voiced versions are treated as separate games from the original.
Posted March 26, 2016
Some LucasArts games, like "X-Wing", "TIE Fighter" and "Zak McKracken" come in several versions here on GOG as well.
Posted March 26, 2016
So the original game is contained in the tenta.cle file.

bgbennyboy is working on updating Double Fine Explorer to properly support extracting from it, but until then: https://quickandeasysoftware.net/software/monkey-island-explorer

The Monkey Island Explorer actually works well enough to extract the original game files. Select Monkey Island 1 mode, show "all files" and open tenta.cle. Filter by .000, .001 and .sou files, extract those by clicking "save files" and load them in ScummVM as normal.

Maniac Mansion is included there as well - those are all the *.lfl files in the maniac/ folder but having fun extracting those since you can only do it one file at a time. If you try to "Save all files" it'll crash on the first texture it tries to extract.

Doublefine Explorer will hopefully get updated within the next day or two. I also do not know if the original game data files are modified in any way - I do not have the original game to compare them to.

Have fun.

Edit: ScummVM did not warn me about modified files on launch, so I'm gonna guess they're the original files.
Post edited March 26, 2016 by TheJoe
Posted March 26, 2016
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TheJoe: So the original game is contained in the tenta.cle file.

bgbennyboy is working on updating Double Fine Explorer to properly support extracting from it, but until then: https://quickandeasysoftware.net/software/monkey-island-explorer

The Monkey Island Explorer actually works well enough to extract the original game files. Select Monkey Island 1 mode, show "all files" and open tenta.cle. Filter by .000, .001 and .sou files, extract those by clicking "save files" and load them in ScummVM as normal.

Maniac Mansion is included there as well - those are all the *.lfl files in the maniac/ folder but having fun extracting those since you can only do it one file at a time. If you try to "Save all files" it'll crash on the first texture it tries to extract.

Doublefine Explorer will hopefully get updated within the next day or two. I also do not know if the original game data files are modified in any way - I do not have the original game to compare them to.

Have fun.

Edit: ScummVM did not warn me about modified files on launch, so I'm gonna guess they're the original files.
Beautiful. :)
Posted March 26, 2016
Looks like DOTT works fine, with original SFX. :)

Maniac Mansion crashes, so I'm guessing it will take some work. I'll request it at SCUMMVM once bgbennyboy has updated the extractor so they don't have to manually extract 54 files. :D
Posted March 26, 2016
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ZarkonDrule: Looks like DOTT works fine, with original SFX. :)

Maniac Mansion crashes, so I'm guessing it will take some work. I'll request it at SCUMMVM once bgbennyboy has updated the extractor so they don't have to manually extract 54 files. :D
Judging by the the timing of your post and this tweet, it updated just as you asked for it.

I *think* Maniac Mansion wasn't extracting properly with MIE. I got a different checksum each time I did it. Dumping Maniac Mansion now, will report back...


E: Yep. It works if you dump it from Double Fine Explorer.
Post edited March 26, 2016 by TheJoe
Posted March 26, 2016
Do you get the old monster.sou? I would assume that the new voice data is stored somewhere else…
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