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I would prefer to buy it on GOG tho
Black Friday is a week after release. I highly doubt it will be discounted then already. And if, really not by much.
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xgribbelfix: Black Friday is a week after release. I highly doubt it will be discounted then already. And if, really not by much.
Some companies prefer to do little discount around launch date. We know already you could buy it at Epic Games with 10 bucks off coupon already.

Little discount after launch is good way to cause havoc among players... I hope they do it, its Cyber "punk" after fall. Would it be fun if they did "FU Edition" like two week afterwards? Only 50 bucks.
Post edited September 20, 2020 by Cyberway
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Cyberway: Would it be fun if they did "FU Edition" like two week afterwards? Only 50 bucks.
$49.94 USD is what I paid for the boxed edition from Amazon.

I couldn't believe it. I'm not getting a physical copy of the game, but I am getting a physical product with a significant amount of "stuff" inside--and yet I'm getting it for significantly less than a download?

I don't know how or why CDPR is doing that, but I wanted a box, and simply paid the asking price.

As for lowering the price of a product, only the most immature of kidults think of that as a bad thing--as some kind of personal affront. If I pay, say $60 for a product, that is because I considered the product to be worth $60. If I didn't think the product was worth $60, I shouldn't have purchased it at that price.

Further, if the price is lowered to $50 a week after I buy, that has literally zero effect on me. It doesn't somehow magically make my product worse, or magically make my life more miserable.

It does make life a bit better for people who were waiting for a lower price, which is a good thing....unless you are one of the impatient, selfish kidults who actually complain about such things--as if the CEO of the company was supposed to take special note of the price that Joe Lunchbucket just paid for his product so he can make sure that the price doesn't go any lower than that for at least a couple of months.
Post edited September 25, 2020 by Dryspace
Dryspace, it has nothing to do with whether the game is worth the rated price or whether someone "gets it cheaper", as such. What it comes down to is that a lot of people bought the game nearly a year and a half ago, when CDPR asked people to support them. People entrusted CDPR with their money pretty much only on faith and that faith is either respected or it isn't.

If CDPR immediately throws out a great deal for people who didn't have that faith then what is the moral of the story inevitably and inescably going to be for all those people who preordered? It's going to be that they should never, ever trust CDPR with a preorder ever again, because CDPR will literally reward people who don't trust them over people who do. I suspect some seriously sour grapes if they go down this path.

Oh, and that blabber about kidults is begging for some choice words, but we're not supposed to be like that around here, so I'll refrain.
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Cyberway: Would it be fun if they did "FU Edition" like two week afterwards? Only 50 bucks.
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Dryspace: $49.94 USD is what I paid for the boxed edition from Amazon.

I couldn't believe it. I'm not getting a physical copy of the game, but I am getting a physical product with a significant amount of "stuff" inside--and yet I'm getting it for significantly less than a download?

I don't know how or why CDPR is doing that, but I wanted a box, and simply paid the asking price.

As for lowering the price of a product, only the most immature of kidults think of that as a bad thing--as some kind of personal affront. If I pay, say $60 for a product, that is because I considered the product to be worth $60. If I didn't think the product was worth $60, I shouldn't have purchased it at that price.

Further, if the price is lowered to $50 a week after I buy, that has literally zero effect on me. It doesn't somehow magically make my product worse, or magically make my life more miserable.

It does make life a bit better for people who were waiting for a lower price, which is a good thing....unless you are one of the impatient, selfish kidults who actually complain about such things--as if the CEO of the company was supposed to take special note of the price that Joe Lunchbucket just paid for his product so he can make sure that the price doesn't go any lower than that for at least a couple of months.
I hope they do it, they could exclude season pass, dlcs, especially free dlcs, and mp from it. If they hit high and low end of the market, they might be able to pull that 20 mill unit sold dream they've. They could put some real ganster rap music in starting screen for FU Edition etc. Two edition is also great if you have massive hype like Cyberpunk has, once that hype is gone, its gone for good, you wanna take advtange of it when you've it, of course we dont know if this is MASSIVE success and they dont need to lower prices for 2 year or so, but I doubt.
Post edited September 26, 2020 by Cyberway
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Arachnarok_Rider: If CDPR immediately throws out a great deal for people who didn't have that faith then what is the moral of the story inevitably and inescably going to be for all those people who preordered? It's going to be that they should never, ever trust CDPR with a preorder ever again, because CDPR will literally reward people who don't trust them over people who do. I suspect some seriously sour grapes if they go down this path.
Just blame Cyberpunk. Of course they cant give lollipops and candies for everyone.
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Arachnarok_Rider: Dryspace, it has nothing to do with whether the game is worth the rated price or whether someone "gets it cheaper", as such.
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It has nothing to do with whether the game is worth the price you paid? You actually typed that with a straight face? If it has nothing to do with money, then what would anyone be complaining about? I'm lost....
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Arachnarok_Rider: People entrusted CDPR with their money pretty much only on faith and that faith is either respected or it isn't...If CDPR immediately throws out a great deal for people who didn't have that faith then what is the moral of the story
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*Expels breath through pursed lips*

CDPR didn't "ask people to support them". They offered a product at a certain price, and people decided whether they wanted to pay that price now, wait until later, or not buy at all. Why do you view this as some kind of religious experience?

You're actually complaining about people spending money "only on faith"??? Listen to yourself! A person should be spending money on facts, on knowledge, on reasonable expectations. Not on "faith". If a person spends money only on "faith", whose fault is it if things go sour? I guess according to you, the blame is on the "church" who conned him, right?

I already paid for my boxed copy of C2077. It was the first time I pre-ordered a game since Far Cry 2 in 2008. I paid the asking price because I considered it an acceptable price. How in the world does it affect me in any way, shape or form if other people are able to buy the game at a slightly lower price than I paid several months after I paid it?

If I didn't want to pay that price, then I should have waited, knowing as anyone with a brain knows, that the price will inevitably be lower if I just wait long enough. No one forced me to pay that price. I chose to willingly. I ask again--if other people paying a lower price doesn't affect me in any way, shape, or form, then what right do I have to complain? How have I been harmed by CDPR in any measurable way? Will you answer the question honestly, or avoid it?
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Arachnarok_Rider: It's going to be that they should never, ever trust CDPR with a preorder ever again, because CDPR will literally reward people who don't trust them over people who do. I suspect some seriously sour grapes if they go down this path.
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It's not CDPR's job to "reward" people. It's their job to make games and sell them to people who are willing to buy them. In my humble opinion, you have an unhealthy perspective on this. When you expect things you have no right to expect, you're begging for disappointment.
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Arachnarok_Rider: Oh, and that blabber about kidults is begging for some choice words, but we're not supposed to be like that around here, so I'll refrain.
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Well, thanks for acting like an adult. :)
World doesnt work on "fixed" prices. You go to bar, you buy beer for 2 bucks, other side of street dude is asking 5 bucks. Girl is askin 100 bucks from you, 2 hour later she gave herself to another dude for 40 bucks. Business model has always brought tons of drama in game industry, whether its sub-model, microtrasction, f2p-model, high game prices, but drama is assured. so that said if CDPR finds a way to blame Cyberpunk IP, that would be the best.
Post edited September 27, 2020 by Cyberway
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Arachnarok_Rider: Dryspace, it has nothing to do with whether the game is worth the rated price or whether someone "gets it cheaper", as such.
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Dryspace: .
It has nothing to do with whether the game is worth the price you paid? You actually typed that with a straight face? If it has nothing to do with money, then what would anyone be complaining about? I'm lost....
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Arachnarok_Rider: People entrusted CDPR with their money pretty much only on faith and that faith is either respected or it isn't...If CDPR immediately throws out a great deal for people who didn't have that faith then what is the moral of the story
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Dryspace: .
*Expels breath through pursed lips*

CDPR didn't "ask people to support them". They offered a product at a certain price, and people decided whether they wanted to pay that price now, wait until later, or not buy at all. Why do you view this as some kind of religious experience?

You're actually complaining about people spending money "only on faith"??? Listen to yourself! A person should be spending money on facts, on knowledge, on reasonable expectations. Not on "faith". If a person spends money only on "faith", whose fault is it if things go sour? I guess according to you, the blame is on the "church" who conned him, right?

I already paid for my boxed copy of C2077. It was the first time I pre-ordered a game since Far Cry 2 in 2008. I paid the asking price because I considered it an acceptable price. How in the world does it affect me in any way, shape or form if other people are able to buy the game at a slightly lower price than I paid several months after I paid it?

If I didn't want to pay that price, then I should have waited, knowing as anyone with a brain knows, that the price will inevitably be lower if I just wait long enough. No one forced me to pay that price. I chose to willingly. I ask again--if other people paying a lower price doesn't affect me in any way, shape, or form, then what right do I have to complain? How have I been harmed by CDPR in any measurable way? Will you answer the question honestly, or avoid it?
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Arachnarok_Rider: It's going to be that they should never, ever trust CDPR with a preorder ever again, because CDPR will literally reward people who don't trust them over people who do. I suspect some seriously sour grapes if they go down this path.
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Dryspace: .
It's not CDPR's job to "reward" people. It's their job to make games and sell them to people who are willing to buy them. In my humble opinion, you have an unhealthy perspective on this. When you expect things you have no right to expect, you're begging for disappointment.
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Arachnarok_Rider: Oh, and that blabber about kidults is begging for some choice words, but we're not supposed to be like that around here, so I'll refrain.
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Dryspace: .
Well, thanks for acting like an adult. :)
Back last summer, I could swear that they did ask people to show their support and preorder the game. And a lot of people did. I was going to buy the game anyway, so I did too.

And frankly it doesn't mean anything to me if I pay 50 euro or 60. But the general principle here, that if you preorder to show support and let them have your money a year and a half before delivery then you're nothing to them because they already have your money, but if you're unwilling to preorder then you'll get a nice discount and get to play the game practically at launch anyway. That principle is pretty hard to miss. And it isn't a nice principle that encourages future goodwill towards CDPR.

Now, I called it faith previously, but it isn't unreasonable (unless you're into accounting) to refer to it as goodwill. It really amounts to the same thing and it is a real concept in business. There are tangible qualities that might make a customer buy or not buy, but there are also intangibles. This might be the reason why you would buy a game on GOG for slightly more than on Steam, or why you would be entirely unwilling to take a chance on Fallout 76.

Lastly, there's a difference between faith, having a belief in something or someone without complete evidence, and blind faith, having that same belief despite having no evidence. I have faith in CDPR because they've run GOG for a long time and made three very good Witcher games without being dicks about it. It isn't blind faith and it isn't unconditional. Obviously, if CDPR now decide to be dicks all of a sudden then said faith is undermined somewhat.
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Arachnarok_Rider: Back last summer, I could swear that they did ask people to show their support and preorder the game. And a lot of people did. I was going to buy the game anyway, so I did too.
Not that you need my validation, but your points seem more digestible this time.

Even if CDPR did say something like "Show your support! Blah, blah!", my point is that you are...spinning that, for lack of a better word, into something that it's not.

You're taking a business situation in which 'Caveat Emptor' has always applied since antiquity, and painting it as something quite different, in which we consumers are owed something that we definitely are not. If something is not expressly indicated in a business transaction, no one has a right to expect it. Like I said, it's a mindset that is setting people up for disappointment by giving them expectations they have no right to have.

What I agree with is the concept of faith as you're using it this time--as in a reasonable expectation based upon past performance. I have the same faith in CDPR. That's not the same thing as having faith that a business is going to keep some sort of promise that was never made.

But I don't agree that a company lowering its prices is "being a d***". Everyone I know wishes that prices were as low as possible. The concept that prices can't go lower for some indeterminate time just because some certain people already paid more makes no sense to me.

I do get that a person who is very young and has little experience might feel wronged if he pre-ordered a game only to find that others who "opted in" later got a lower price. I honestly get that a person might feel that way. But that person should eventually realize that it was he who was wrong for making baseless assumptions about what he should expect or deserve.

But like I said, let's look at it: If I'm happy paying $60 for a product (and if I'm not, I shouldn't have paid it), and someone somewhere else pays $45 for it later, how am I actually harmed in any conceivable way? What has actually happened to me that gives me a legitimate reason for complaining?
CDPR is beyond "money support". Its very likely they break 1 billion revenues with Cyberpunk, sure they've some money in their bank or who knows, or then they've had tons of debt from previous games. So that said, hit high market of 60 buck and low market of 30 buck is what they need is to get maximun awareness. Ive also said MP should be F2P via GoG.
Post edited September 28, 2020 by Cyberway
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Cyberway: Its very likely they break 1 billion revenues with Cyberpunk, sure they've some money in their bank or who knows, or then they've had tons of debt from previous games.
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I agree: CDPR could easily hit $1B USD in gross sales revenue alone. I think it's quite possible it could happen before prices go down from $60, but even if not, over time I think it will happen eventually, unless the game fails to meet player's expectations.

I'm certain that CDPR had no debt from previous games, though. The Witcher: Enhanced Edition was a critical and financial success, and I'm pretty sure TW2--even though it was my biggest gaming disappointment of all time--was quite profitable for CDPR.
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Dryspace: I agree: CDPR could easily hit $1B USD in gross sales revenue alone.
I misread that as $18 USD.
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Cyberway: Its very likely they break 1 billion revenues with Cyberpunk, sure they've some money in their bank or who knows, or then they've had tons of debt from previous games.
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Dryspace: .
I agree: CDPR could easily hit $1B USD in gross sales revenue alone. I think it's quite possible it could happen before prices go down from $60, but even if not, over time I think it will happen eventually, unless the game fails to meet player's expectations.

I'm certain that CDPR had no debt from previous games, though. The Witcher: Enhanced Edition was a critical and financial success, and I'm pretty sure TW2--even though it was my biggest gaming disappointment of all time--was quite profitable for CDPR.
Wow, if TW2 was your biggest disappointment of all time....that's still a great game, IMHO. And this is coming from someone who had TW2 on pre-order and played it Day 1 - even with its issues of lack of controls on certain keys like num-keys for remapping; very difficult at times such as first dragon battle; lack of multiple panels for multiple endings/permutations on the ending which they did later; and how rushed the Final Act felt (played before EE re-release).

Personally, I think there's other more disappointing titles for me (even ones that I still liked, despite many of their problems) - Dragon Age 2, Neverwinter Nights 1 (base-game campaign), and Final Fantasy 8 here come to mind.
Post edited October 09, 2020 by MysterD