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FTSO: They have less than 6 months to bring everything together, I am pretty sure 2021 is the year of Starfield launch and other Triple A´s that i have no clue, but other gamers are eager to see... hum, a comment vague as a game journalist.

They moved into the open world now, and besides The Witcher 3, they don´t have any other really fresh title in the house, at least different of the current offer, open world.

I am enjoying looking around Night City, the constant phone and small gangs fights are very repetitive, lacks the option to invade and stealing places, etc.

You know what? they have everything here to start this game as a blank character, choosing V matters not, then jump in the world, try to ally with some faction or not, etc. At level 15 or 20, you listen a call of a bandit, Jackie Welles, about a big deal to do with you because you are a name everyones talk about.

I wish we have the main quest 100% separated, without close the city before start the Silverhand´s stuff, because Night City as an open world place to invest more time, with polish on systems and more things to do with so much structures, is worth the title.

Anyway.
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Aiden5576: Sorry, but, Starfield is not going to be anything special. I have a feeling it's going to feel like every other Bethesda game.......just in space.
Microsoft now and people that criticise it will be labelled racists and destroyers of the environment, Like Disney if you don't like the product they forced down your throat you're a problem and racist.
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Aiden5576: Sorry, but, Starfield is not going to be anything special. I have a feeling it's going to feel like every other Bethesda game.......just in space.
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wayke: Microsoft now and people that criticise it will be labelled racists and destroyers of the environment, Like Disney if you don't like the product they forced down your throat you're a problem and racist.
I am not saying Starfield is going to be a superb game, as far it goes, Bethesda is creatively bankrupt since Skyrim. My point is, with more titles coming in 2021, the consumer goodwill is not going to wait for so long.

Mickeysoft´s and Disney, what a duo in entertainment.
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wayke: Microsoft now and people that criticise it will be labelled racists and destroyers of the environment, Like Disney if you don't like the product they forced down your throat you're a problem and racist.
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FTSO: I am not saying Starfield is going to be a superb game, as far it goes, Bethesda is creatively bankrupt since Skyrim. My point is, with more titles coming in 2021, the consumer goodwill is not going to wait for so long.

Mickeysoft´s and Disney, what a duo in entertainment.
Me personally, I'm going to indie studios on Steam, making some unique Adults Only titles after this nonsense.

A space CRPG(Subverse), a horror game(Lust From Beyond) and ana action slasher title(Succubus).
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FTSO: I am not saying Starfield is going to be a superb game, as far it goes, Bethesda is creatively bankrupt since Skyrim. My point is, with more titles coming in 2021, the consumer goodwill is not going to wait for so long.

Mickeysoft´s and Disney, what a duo in entertainment.
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Tracido: Me personally, I'm going to indie studios on Steam, making some unique Adults Only titles after this nonsense.

A space CRPG(Subverse), a horror game(Lust From Beyond) and ana action slasher title(Succubus).
I don't do steam anymore

Their direction is not friendly they saturate the market with deals that are anything but to draw people into that eco system, Steams SSA is shady and borders on the line of well when we give up you lose your games, You can't say it won't happen bigger corporations have fallen due to the simplest of ignorance's and Valves polices have tempted the fates before, How will you recover your libraries of access to game licenses when steam has none etc, Steam bans users for racism they lose access to their entire account and some of that was due to a username and nothing else, Yet Valve play buddies with China which is a pointless market there's no protection against theft in China if you're a foreign tech.
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Tracido: Me personally, I'm going to indie studios on Steam, making some unique Adults Only titles after this nonsense.

A space CRPG(Subverse), a horror game(Lust From Beyond) and ana action slasher title(Succubus).
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wayke: I don't do steam anymore

Their direction is not friendly they saturate the market with deals that are anything but to draw people into that eco system, Steams SSA is shady and borders on the line of well when we give up you lose your games, You can't say it won't happen bigger corporations have fallen due to the simplest of ignorance's and Valves polices have tempted the fates before, How will you recover your libraries of access to game licenses when steam has none etc, Steam bans users for racism they lose access to their entire account and some of that was due to a username and nothing else, Yet Valve play buddies with China which is a pointless market there's no protection against theft in China if you're a foreign tech.
Yeah, having our games locked in all these apps is scary mate.

There's 10 major distributors for gaming applications. It's terrifying as a custiomer and consumer.

GOG has the advantage of DRM free, but I've heard a few games have since challenged that..

Nothing is safe for our ownership.
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wayke: I don't do steam anymore

Their direction is not friendly they saturate the market with deals that are anything but to draw people into that eco system, Steams SSA is shady and borders on the line of well when we give up you lose your games, You can't say it won't happen bigger corporations have fallen due to the simplest of ignorance's and Valves polices have tempted the fates before, How will you recover your libraries of access to game licenses when steam has none etc, Steam bans users for racism they lose access to their entire account and some of that was due to a username and nothing else, Yet Valve play buddies with China which is a pointless market there's no protection against theft in China if you're a foreign tech.
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Tracido: Yeah, having our games locked in all these apps is scary mate.

There's 10 major distributors for gaming applications. It's terrifying as a custiomer and consumer.

GOG has the advantage of DRM free, but I've heard a few games have since challenged that..

Nothing is safe for our ownership.
Yeah I seen that they include some form of web authentication wall in game so without the account etc you can't do much, SE did this on the Hitman 2016 game a little packet loss to their server and mid game you get disconnected from a single player title I have screenshots at the time and Teamspeak was running, Square Enix will not get $ from me on anything new I will pirate that they wasted my time and money they're filth.
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Tracido: Yeah, having our games locked in all these apps is scary mate.

There's 10 major distributors for gaming applications. It's terrifying as a custiomer and consumer.

GOG has the advantage of DRM free, but I've heard a few games have since challenged that..

Nothing is safe for our ownership.
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wayke: Yeah I seen that they include some form of web authentication wall in game so without the account etc you can't do much, SE did this on the Hitman 2016 game a little packet loss to their server and mid game you get disconnected from a single player title I have screenshots at the time and Teamspeak was running, Square Enix will not get $ from me on anything new I will pirate that they wasted my time and money they're filth.
I wish I had that capability, I run too much on monitored networks & I can't ever do that. There is so little safety in my nation for anyone who isn't a corporation, period.

I either use their apps, or I don't game, so I just HAD been TRYING to pick the best I could, hence TRUSTING CDPR..

So, yeah, that's why i was so destroyed here, this felt personal beyond a normal corpo..

I fear for the future of GOG, as they even blocked Devotion recently..
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wayke: It's pretty much the average time for other bad release titles, Beyond that Pirate everything.
Why "6 months" and not longer/shorter? Some games have seen wonderful turnaround with longer periods (No Mans Sky comes to mind). What if they had 2 years to fix it, and they do a wonderful job, fixing everything, plus adding a ton of content? I am not trolling, but curious how someone comes to this determination that 6 months is the amount of time it "should take?"

I won't be pre-buying any games from now on, and this release is NOT good, but how does one come to this number?
This game cannot and will not be fixed to expectations - not going to happen. Too much work and probably CDPR does not believe it to be fundamentally flawed. All you will get is bugs fixed, maybe some more meaningful grinding activities and paid DLCs with more quests.
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midrand: This game cannot and will not be fixed to expectations - not going to happen. Too much work and probably CDPR does not believe it to be fundamentally flawed. All you will get is bugs fixed, maybe some more meaningful grinding activities and paid DLCs with more quests.
This.

The once-in-a-lifetime AAA game overhaul mega-patch that some pitiful punters are hanging their hopes on - still not wise after being completely mis-sold the game in the first place - is pure fantasy, sorry to say.

Overhauling an open exploration inventory-heavy indie game like NMS bears zero relation to overhauling an on-rails, scripted, RPG-lite action adventure like CP76 which has so many deficiencies baked in to the fundamental game structure. In addition, the former, as an indie game, leant itself to the possibility of a ‘labor of love’ rescue mission; whilst the latter has no emotional ties/pride from bitter devs or detached corpo publisher alike.

The game you were promised will never exist, chaps. Stop piling yet more undeserving faith on the liars known as CDPR.
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midrand: This game cannot and will not be fixed to expectations - not going to happen. Too much work and probably CDPR does not believe it to be fundamentally flawed. All you will get is bugs fixed, maybe some more meaningful grinding activities and paid DLCs with more quests.
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Omarios: This.

The once-in-a-lifetime AAA game overhaul mega-patch that some pitiful punters are hanging their hopes on - still not wise after being completely mis-sold the game in the first place - is pure fantasy, sorry to say.

Overhauling an open exploration inventory-heavy indie game like NMS bears zero relation to overhauling an on-rails, scripted, RPG-lite action adventure like CP76 which has so many deficiencies baked in to the fundamental game structure. In addition, the former, as an indie game, leant itself to the possibility of a ‘labor of love’ rescue mission; whilst the latter has no emotional ties/pride from bitter devs or detached corpo publisher alike.

The game you were promised will never exist, chaps. Stop piling yet more undeserving faith on the liars known as CDPR.
That applies to Fallout 76 Todd, CDPR have picked up after themselves even when they didn't have to 3 times over so the benefit of doubt for now in a way. Unless the parasite vultures from other companies who are currently running their negative publishing powers to discredit CDPR even more, CDPR are not innocent at all the other big CORPO evils are running their tools to dissolve CDPR like a sugar cube in water it's also business and they will eat people thing they won't but they do and they will real classy people run those companies.
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Omarios: This.

The once-in-a-lifetime AAA game overhaul mega-patch that some pitiful punters are hanging their hopes on - still not wise after being completely mis-sold the game in the first place - is pure fantasy, sorry to say.

Overhauling an open exploration inventory-heavy indie game like NMS bears zero relation to overhauling an on-rails, scripted, RPG-lite action adventure like CP76 which has so many deficiencies baked in to the fundamental game structure. In addition, the former, as an indie game, leant itself to the possibility of a ‘labor of love’ rescue mission; whilst the latter has no emotional ties/pride from bitter devs or detached corpo publisher alike.

The game you were promised will never exist, chaps. Stop piling yet more undeserving faith on the liars known as CDPR.
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wayke: That applies to Fallout 76 Todd, CDPR have picked up after themselves even when they didn't have to 3 times over so the benefit of doubt for now in a way. Unless the parasite vultures from other companies who are currently running their negative publishing powers to discredit CDPR even more, CDPR are not innocent at all the other big CORPO evils are running their tools to dissolve CDPR like a sugar cube in water it's also business and they will eat people thing they won't but they do and they will real classy people run those companies.
Why are you hell bent on bringing up FO76 with me on every thread?

I’ve never played FO76, nor will I ever.

I’m delighted though that my avatar of Todd Howard annoys you so much.
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wayke: That applies to Fallout 76 Todd, CDPR have picked up after themselves even when they didn't have to 3 times over so the benefit of doubt for now in a way. Unless the parasite vultures from other companies who are currently running their negative publishing powers to discredit CDPR even more, CDPR are not innocent at all the other big CORPO evils are running their tools to dissolve CDPR like a sugar cube in water it's also business and they will eat people thing they won't but they do and they will real classy people run those companies.
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Omarios: Why are you hell bent on bringing up FO76 with me on every thread?

I’ve never played FO76, nor will I ever.

I’m delighted though that my avatar of Todd Howard annoys you so much.
Todd Coward makes far worse games than CP2077 he always sells out to Nvidia at the start of development
leaving his teams confused...
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Omarios: Why are you hell bent on bringing up FO76 with me on every thread?

I’ve never played FO76, nor will I ever.

I’m delighted though that my avatar of Todd Howard annoys you so much.
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wayke: Todd Coward makes far worse games than CP2077 he always sells out to Nvidia at the start of development
leaving his teams confused...
Absolutely right. But I still fail to see the relevance of Todd Howard to any part of this discussion.
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wayke: That applies to Fallout 76 Todd, CDPR have picked up after themselves even when they didn't have to 3 times over so the benefit of doubt for now in a way. Unless the parasite vultures from other companies who are currently running their negative publishing powers to discredit CDPR even more, CDPR are not innocent at all the other big CORPO evils are running their tools to dissolve CDPR like a sugar cube in water it's also business and they will eat people thing they won't but they do and they will real classy people run those companies.
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Omarios: Why are you hell bent on bringing up FO76 with me on every thread?

I’ve never played FO76, nor will I ever.

I’m delighted though that my avatar of Todd Howard annoys you so much.
I guess he was just making fun of the typo you made.

But anyway that was just a side point - my main point that i keep repeating around here in different form is that: the game I expected exist now.

Shit post abut game whatever you want, call me whatever you want and you only waste your time and energy, because the game I wanted exist. And I'm close to 200h total playtime with 120 h on single character that is still not on finial mission.

And even more then that - it has all the chances to become better after some technical fixes during next 6 to 12 months. And after that it will have even better chances to become a baseline for whole lot of different games, either sold separately or integrated in one as side activities.