I think the game is amazing to be frank. It has more depth, polish and outstanding story telling than any of the elder scrolls or fallout games can dream of in the last 15 years. Not to mention (on PC at least) it isn't nearly as buggy as those titles at launch. Ohh, also to boot the game runs better than AC Valhalla on my mid range machine (I can run at 60fps rock solid with the game running great).

When I saw this didn't get GOTY on PC Gamer I was floored and pretty much cements I can't trust the opinion of PCG.

Does the game need to flesh out some of the promised features? Yeah.
Does it need some bug fixes? Yeah.

Is the game f'ing amazing despite that? Hell Yeah.

Not trying to be a fanboi or any nonsense but I just can't wrap my head around all the hate. I think the folks who aren't hating on the game are too busy actually getting lost in Night City so I wanted to just say thanks.

Good job. Your reply was just about as immature as I expected.

Welcome boi

It's one of my favourite releases this year, alongside Doom Eternal and Baldur's Gate 3. I'm eager to see what the future holds for this game.

Stop being a lying butt kisser lol. Oblivion/Skyrim and Fallout 3 all had bugs but were all perfectly playable on launch. I know, I was there. This is an utter disaster by comparison. It's a bunch of amateurs trying to be professional.

I have to say I've enjoyed the game, but it's far from perfect, very far from perfect, bugs aside it has some serious issues . Combat is ridiculously easy , the AI in this game acts like it's had a lobotomy, many of the side quests lack depth and amount to little more than fetch quests, to name but a few of it's flaws.

Still it's been quite fun, not the revelation that many were expecting I'm sure, but I was never expecting anything earth shattering in the first place.

It can't hold a candle to the brilliance that was The Witcher 3 , but that's fine no other game can either.

All in all I think Cyberpunk has been a victim of it's own hype, luckily for me I never take any notice of that sort of thing, it's not the greatest game ever but it's a long ,long way from being the worst.

will I play it again ? Maybe, it would be nice to see how it all shakes out once it's had a bit more polish.

Not sure about Oblivion/Skyrim since I never cared for that type of settings but Fallout 3 was crashing left and right on the multicore CPUs and 64 bit Windows Vista. Even after the patches with GOTY edition you still needed to edit config file to manually force the mode that would not crash the game.

Jesus... it's not that bad you fucking crybaby. Quit being a fucking drama queen.

Good lord, why are you so angsty? Oh you were there at launch for FO and Skyrim? Good job, so were a lot of us. I have been playing ES games since Daggerfall and if you really were there you know both of those series launches were jokes with:
- Broken AI
- Laughable combat
- Bad controls
- Story writing that makes the Twilight books look like real literature
- A sea of technical and performance problems
- Shallow crafting mechanics
- List goes on

Hell, both of those series only have real life left in them because you can make those games good by applying hundreds of mods to them to make the games into what they should be.

The game IS perfectly playable (I got 120 hours in on a mid range system) with:
- a combat system that has more depth than you had in Witcher 3
- a crafting system that has some bugs but has at least as much depth as we had in W3
- story telling in Main and side quests that is superb
- decent technical performance and stability (on PC at least and I can only speak to my own gameplay and friends also on PC)
- combat AI that doesn't seem any worse or better IMO than my playthrough of W3 a few months back

Cyberpunk is not that far off from Witcher 3 if we are being honest in terms of mechanics and IMO it expands on most of them. What are the things that are so broken on PC that is causing all this drama?

It feels like there is some PC hate bandwagon or something that people decided "Ohh, it's cool to be the contrarian so lets go get our matching Hot Topic uniforms and talk about how the new popular thing really sucks".

The game isn't perfect yet but being a software engineer myself (and god knows I can nitpick for days since I understand the software process) I just don't see what is so damned bad about the game to cause all this noise.

CP 2077 is a reasonable game, but it is not GOTY material by any means. This game does not deserve to get that title, and it is not because of the bugs. It is because it is not anything really special - it has a good story and graphics, but that is it. I've summarised my impressions on a separate thread, but I certainly would not vote for CP 2077 to be the game of the year - whether in 2020 or 2021.

I see we keep on dragging Witcher 3 down saying that it was equally great or bad as CP 2077 - I strongly disagree. Witcher 3 was a rounded masterpiece - and maybe so because CDPR progressed from W1 and W2. CP 2077 is not even close.

Well, the last 15 years of Bethesda games would exclude old Morrowind and leave us with Oblivious, Shoutrim, and Fallouts 3, 4, and 76. Of course there's also New Vegas, which was more of an Obsidian game in the Fallout 3 engine.

But you're saying the game has depth and polish. Ehm. Yeah, I don't really think so.

I used to be grumpy that snow wouldn't smelt when I used fire magic on it in Skyrim. I used to mind how dragons were singularly the stupidest beings in the universe, first getting driven from Morrowind by all the cliffracers and now lining up one another to literally feed their souls to the one entity that they know for a rock solid fact has flat out murked the first and strongest among them, Alduin, the supposed world eater. Oh boy, was I naive.

In this game the plot makes no sense even within its own frame of reference, the game sets rules that it then proceeds to break, and of course there's no consequence to anything. Talking about depth assumes that there is some form of world to dig into, but in this case the world is nothing but a surface painting and it very much does not appear that CDPR even wanting it to look like there was more to Night City than being a flat painting on a rock.

What are all those markets, for instance? They're not places where anyone buys anything. Mostly random spawns just stand there, doing nothing. Most pedestrians aren't actually going anywhere, they're just random spawns. All vendors aren't going anywhere ever, they're just stuck wherever they were anchored, 24/7, come rain or snow. Suppose you blow up your unique Delamain or modded Arch, what happens? A new one just spawns right away.

And it's like that with everything. Every. Freaking. Thing. Nothing makes sense. Nothing even pretends to make sense. The graphics are damned nice on the right hardware and the story on rails is told nicely, but ultimately this is not a deep game. It does not have a deep story to tell. It does not have any particular questions to ask of players.

And no, I don't hate the game. It is enjoyable enough, in a sort of Borderlands'esque casual arcade kind of way. The extremely rigid story does get a bit aggravating over time, though. And having to play that damn framed-in-concrete hour-longs intro section until you open Act 2 gets very old, very fast.

So you mean then Cyberpunk is just like Witcher 3 or the ES games?

It's not like there weren't merchants and background NPCs in those other games that you were not intended to interact with and were instead just background color to make the environment fleshed out. For every 100 "merchants" in Witcher 3 you could maybe interact with 1 of them. Hell, same was true in the ES or FO games where in a major city you had tons of random NPCs who either A) didn't do anything other than stand around or B) who was supposedly had some role that for some reason you couldn't interact with them in any real fashion.

It's like folks either didn't play or forgot how these games worked. Go on a murder rampage in some of these other games - kill 100 random NPCs and guess what? They just respawn with other random filler NPCs. Kill your horse (or do something that should kill your horse) and poof - you magically get the same one back (magically teleporting horse BTW).

"And it's like that with everything. Every. Freaking. Thing. Nothing makes sense. Nothing even pretends to make sense." - What does that mean? Any examples?

I keep hearing people gush and soak their underwear about W3 but then somehow complain about the same mechanics in Cyberpunk.

You know you're just giving a troll the attention they crave, right?