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I have some questions for Dear publishers:

First, What`re the differences between the game copies that in U.S.A. and China GOG platform?Are those copies selling in GOG platform in China get cut/ultered/censored,because "some reasons"?

Second, Are there any differnces between those copies of cyberpunk 2077 selling in HongKong and those in China Mainland?

I'm over 30 and I want a "Full" Gameing expierence, with no "cut scenes" .
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As far as I know, GOG has no games with regionally different versions. But there are some reasons that you can't directly buy in some regions, but so far that has been circumventable by using a VPN server or proxy or something like this from another country. I don't know how good that will work in China, and I don't know if there is an official answer for Cyberpunk for that question.
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Gabelvampir: As far as I know, GOG has no games with regionally different versions. But there are some reasons that you can't directly buy in some regions, but so far that has been circumventable by using a VPN server or proxy or something like this from another country. I don't know how good that will work in China, and I don't know if there is an official answer for Cyberpunk for that question.
Purchasing Cyberpunk 2077 through GoG APP is not circumventable by using a VPN,I had tried, I can buy Cyberpunk at the price of $59.99(USA's price) in Internet page and the price still went back to $41.99(Chinese Price on GOG galaxy platform app on PC)

I guess I have to wait until the game is out or Community managers come to answer my questions.

Thank u for ur help
Post edited May 20, 2020 by 8_8
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Gabelvampir: As far as I know, GOG has no games with regionally different versions. But there are some reasons that you can't directly buy in some regions, but so far that has been circumventable by using a VPN server or proxy or something like this from another country. I don't know how good that will work in China, and I don't know if there is an official answer for Cyberpunk for that question.
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8_8: Purchasing Cyberpunk 2077 through GoG APP is not circumventable by using a VPN,I had tried, I can buy Cyberpunk at the price of $59.99(USA's price) in Internet page and the price still went back to $41.99(Chinese Price on GOG galaxy platform app on PC)

I guess I have to wait until the game is out or Community managers come to answer my questions.

Thank u for ur help
I can buy stuff GOG normally doesn't sell here in Germany by using a proxy, but I don't think you can use that to get around the regional pricing.

But I just remembered there was one regional differences thing on GOG, The Witcher 3 had some problems on launch in Australia, but I can't remember the details and can't look it up right now.
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Gabelvampir: As far as I know, GOG has no games with regionally different versions. But there are some reasons that you can't directly buy in some regions, but so far that has been circumventable by using a VPN server or proxy or something like this from another country. I don't know how good that will work in China, and I don't know if there is an official answer for Cyberpunk for that question.
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8_8: Purchasing Cyberpunk 2077 through GoG APP is not circumventable by using a VPN,I had tried, I can buy Cyberpunk at the price of $59.99(USA's price) in Internet page and the price still went back to $41.99(Chinese Price on GOG galaxy platform app on PC)

I guess I have to wait until the game is out or Community managers come to answer my questions.

Thank u for ur help
Dude same concern with u. But for the VPN issue, it is circumventable however u have to use VPN when u registered. I am in Australia but succeeded to buy witcher3 at 47 CNY. When I finished and shut down the VPN then the price came back to AUD.
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8_8: Purchasing Cyberpunk 2077 through GoG APP is not circumventable by using a VPN,I had tried, I can buy Cyberpunk at the price of $59.99(USA's price) in Internet page and the price still went back to $41.99(Chinese Price on GOG galaxy platform app on PC)

I guess I have to wait until the game is out or Community managers come to answer my questions.

Thank u for ur help
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bolanchunlv1997: Dude same concern with u. But for the VPN issue, it is circumventable however u have to use VPN when u registered. I am in Australia but succeeded to buy witcher3 at 47 CNY. When I finished and shut down the VPN then the price came back to AUD.
That's great.somehow I'm more concerning with the content than price, I'm so scared to prepurchase a Cyberpunk 2077 with censored contents(For example Chinese version of World of Warcraft, Diablo 3 (no blood &gore ), luckily that Witcher series are no censored here in China).I hope Cyberpunk 2077 here would have full contents just as Witcher 3. And I think the probability is very high.
Post edited May 23, 2020 by 8_8
I'm in Japan and apparently they're censoring the game quite a bit. I pre-ordered the game on the first day that was possible but now I'm going to get a heavily censored version because Japan has random double standards.

If there's not going to be a way to circumvent this idiocy, I'm going to be very disappointed.
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GatesOfHades: I'm in Japan and apparently they're censoring the game quite a bit. I pre-ordered the game on the first day that was possible but now I'm going to get a heavily censored version because Japan has random double standards.

If there's not going to be a way to circumvent this idiocy, I'm going to be very disappointed.
Source? On GOG every one gets the same version no matter where they're from. If anything, they game might get blocked for purchase from Japan. So if you pre-ordered the game here, I don't think you have to worry.
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GatesOfHades: I'm in Japan and apparently they're censoring the game quite a bit. I pre-ordered the game on the first day that was possible but now I'm going to get a heavily censored version because Japan has random double standards.

If there's not going to be a way to circumvent this idiocy, I'm going to be very disappointed.
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toxicTom: Source? On GOG every one gets the same version no matter where they're from. If anything, they game might get blocked for purchase from Japan. So if you pre-ordered the game here, I don't think you have to worry.
(TLDR at bottom)
local laws. every country has different "decency" standards, and so censors accordingly. if a country says that a game, movie, etc, can not be sold under their local laws without changes to it, then they will alter the version sold there. to do otherwise would be breaking the law in that country.
there are ways around it, but basically if you try and do so, you run the risk of running afoul of your country laws(i.e. ordering from another country, sending it in could fall under import laws).
that is one of the reasons you select your region when you register your account with gog.

now(for legal reasons), im not going to encourage going around censorship laws, but realistically, i doubt a video game like this would be a big enough deal to chase down one user. and my personal option is that individuals should be free to chose for themselves (if of age, otherwise their parents are responsible for it) what offends them and what they will tolerate.
if you don't like it, don't get it. if it doesn't bother you, then enjoy. sadly, that inst how it actually works.

for example, the games sold in the usa, uk, Australia, and Germany might all be different. some times its for political reasons. a company isn't likely to be able to sell a war game to the country that is painted as the bad guy in it, so for that area of the world, they might shift the names of the enemy to another area.
I read about how google maps would show different political boarders in the middle east, depending on what country you were in(basically, to make everyone happy, they should their country as "owning" the disputed areas)

edit, found some examples:
in Germany, re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus"
Germany's criminal code prohibits the public use of "symbols of unconstitutional organizations" -- they include the swastika, the Celtic cross, the Nazi salute and other symbols associated with the Nazi Party. Punishment can range from fines to three years in prison.
But, as noted by the managing director of USK, Elisabeth Secker, movies have long been considered works of art and have therefore been permitted to feature those symbols (as well as Hitler's mustache). Computer games will now be assessed in the same way.
(cnn)
i forget the law, but there is one where if they put a game on a certain list, the only way to get the game is to know where you can buy it(as no one can run ads for it), and there are a lot of restrictions on even streaming the game if minors could view the stream.

on wikipedia i found a List of regionally censored video games; the last entry:
Eighth generation (2011-present)
Fire Emblem Awakening - Tharja's swimsuit scene in the Summer Scramble Story has her behind covered by a curtain in the changing room. This curtain does not appear in the Japanese and PAL version.
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Violence and gore was reduced, and nudity was cut from the game's release in both Japan and the Middle East.[45]
Until Dawn - A death scene was censored in the Japanese version of the game.[46][47]
Monster Monpiece - About 40 of the 350 card images in the game were censored for sexually explicit material in the international PlayStation Vita release of the game.[48] An uncensored port was later announced to be released on Steam for PC in 2016.
Fire Emblem Fates - A controversial scene showing what could be perceived as gay conversion therapy was edited in the international release of the game to remove references to the act. In addition, a feature that allowed players to "pet" a chosen characters face was removed.[49]
Omega Labyrinth Z - Release outside of Japan was blocked by Sony.[50]
Senran Kagura Burst Re:Newal - One of the game's modes "Intimacy Mode" was forced to be removed for the PS4 release of the game outside of Japan by Sony. Steam release was not changed.[51]
Nekopara - The PS4 release is censored by Sony's decision due to its sexual content. As a result, the PS4 version received an "E" rating by the ESRB by comparison to how the game received an "M" rating on the Nintendo Switch.[52]
Date a Live: Rio Reincarnation - The PS4 release has certain event scenes altered and removal of illustrations that show the girls in suggestive positions. The game's PC release was not changed.[53]
Super Neptunia RPG - Two illustrations were altered in the PS4 release. The first is of Vert playing her games and has the image zoomed in a little to cover her panties; Vert's panties are shown in versions for Nintendo Switch and Steam. The second is of the hot spring event where the PS4 version has more smoke.

ugh, sry about the length: TLDR: censorship vary by region, and for different reasons so they edit games to be able to sell them to that area under its local laws.
Post edited September 05, 2020 by trekstar4444
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trekstar4444: ...
1) That doesn't change the fact that on GOG every one gets the same version. If that version can't be sold in your country, it will be region-locked for you to buy (but not to download and play).
For instance Dying Light is region locked in Germany. I can not buy it with a German IP adress. However if I buy it while being abroad, or get it via gift code, I can download and play it from Germany perfectly fine.

2) You information regarding Nazi visuals (Swastikas etc) are out of date. Games are now considered art too, so while there is no general lift of the ban of those symbols, games are now not automatically banned in Germany if they use it (just like movies). If a game was to glorify Nazis though, it would certainly get blocked. As a result GOG can now sell games like Wolfenstein : TNO to Germans too (the censored German version is included as bonus). If they couldn't do that, they wouldn't simply give the censored version to Germans, but not sell the game in Germany at all.

3) The Celtic cross was never banned in Germany. Why would it be?

That means - if you pre-order CP2077 now on GOG, you'll get the normal uncut version, no matter what. If it can't be sold in Japan (banned after release) you won't be able to buy it from Japan, but what is in your account is safe. For instance The Witcher saw
a censored release in the US (nudity) on disk, but the GOG version is always the uncensored one.
Fallout classic here is the UK version which is (sadly) censored version missing the children - but it's this version for all the world. The US doesn't get the uncut US version either.
pt one, ill have to find that thread again, but in general it aggread with you, only that some games (gog was compelled via legal action) to sell the censerd version.

pt two. i didn't say that symbols were banned. that article is saying that they used to be, and that now games are considered art; i think it was likely published at the time the law changed.

pt 3i edit: found it!

The text of the law does not name the individual symbols to be outlawed, and there is no official exhaustive list...The prohibition is not tied to the symbol itself but to its use in a context suggestive of association with outlawed organizations....

Due to the law, German Neo-Nazis took to displaying modified symbols similar but not identical with those outlawed. In 1994, such symbols were declared equivalent to the ones they imitate...

basically, it was used by some as a hate symbol (or, a version of it at least), and so they slapped everyone down. it wasn't the Celtic cross itself, but what some ppl were using it for.

(a stylized Celtic cross, prohibited as a symbol of the VSBD/PdA and in the variant used by the White Power movement. The legal status of the symbol used in non-political contexts is uncertain, but non-political use is not acted upon in practice.[6])
end edit.

-hope that helps to clear up some confusion-

and i would assume that if you pre-order a game that they later determine they cant release in a country, either they will offer the version approved for sale their (that is how most developers do it when they make them), or offer a refund if they don't want to make more than one version. what i didn't think of before is that gog is not just the re-seller here, the company behind gog and cdprojectred are the same; not sure how that will influence them. (iirc. or they are both owned by the same company. something like that. sry, i cant recall off the top of my head.)
Post edited September 06, 2020 by trekstar4444
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trekstar4444: ...
There is a list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a
And it indeed lists a Celtic Cross... but only the specific one used by White Power. My bad - I really didn't know that was a thing. "Normal" celtic crosses are of course allowed - it would be insane if they were forbidden.

I fact there is exactly one regionally censored game on GOG. There is a special version of Witcher 2 just for Australia. And lots of weirdness surrounding it - some people seem to have it, some don't.
This version was forced on them by the publisher for Witcher 2 in AU (back then CDPR didn't have the power to overrule them, that was changed with Witcher 3).

GOG and CD Projekt RED are both owned by CD Projekt. GOG is not only the "store" of CDP, but AFAIK also runs the internet infrastructure for its sister company.
Post edited September 07, 2020 by toxicTom
yup, thats the one. sry, i should have included that link in my post, and tbh, i didnt know about the celtic cross issue myself before looking this up.

and i cant find that mod post, but it listed one game in Germany as well. so i guess i will have to respectfully dissagree on the exact number, but i will agree that it is less then 3 (lol).
(in looking for that post again, i noticed your name pop up bit-not the first time youve discussed this eh?)

thanks; i knew that they were related, just couldnt remember how-didnt know about the internet infrastructure one tho.

sry op, didnt mean to sorta turn the direction of your post with our discussion.

one last thing: toxicTom: thanks for the discussion. its refreshing to have a difference of opinon with someone online and learn form it, rather then find mindless argument like i see so much of.
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trekstar4444: and i cant find that mod post, but it listed one game in Germany as well.
I do think I would know about that. :-) Any form of censorship is a huge topic for us German gamers.
Would be interesting to know what game that is supposed to be. Usually, if the uncut version can't be sold in Germany, the game is simply blocked from purchase (Good thing I live near the Czech and Polish borders. A short trip and I can buy that stuff anyway.

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trekstar4444: one last thing: toxicTom: thanks for the discussion. its refreshing to have a difference of opinon with someone online and learn form it, rather then find mindless argument like i see so much of.
Right back at you :-)
ok, i found it.
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We've updated this post with information about the locked games.

Update text:

"Two games from our catalog had to be made unavailable in Germany: Commandos Ammo Pack and Commandos 2+3. Offering or promoting these games is considered a serious criminal offence according to German law, and we have to abide by this law to avoid the risk of serious legal action taken against GOG.com and GOG.com employees. Rest assured that if you've already bought a game - nothing will retroactively disappear from your shelves."
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https://www.gog.com/forum/general/bherzlich_willkommenb_gogcom_goes_german_163a1/page8

now, it is from 5 years ago, so i would be interested to know if it is still accurate, but that is the post i saw in passing.

and while (in general, not specifically about the above mentioned games) i find it surprising that a company would pass up on money by region block a game if there was a version made that would pass the local censorship laws, but it is an interesting stand against over-censorship tho.