Posted December 08, 2020
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artmanphil: The same arguments as always: "they do get paid (well)" and "if it is known part of the job it is not abuse".
You can defend almost every awful business practice with that. I bet even Harvey Weinstein would argue the same way. What I'm trying to say is: those are no arguments.
Common exploitation doesn't make it right. People who are creative and want to make games don't have to accept those practices. All the working rights we have nowadays were commonly accepted deficits which were then changed so workers get exploited less. I see no reason not to raise awareness. I know one day it can be different.
Crunch is bad. No matter how you put it. And I really don't understand how anybody could defend it even the tiniest bit. Why argue against regular working hours?
midrand: Crunches or overtime exist in any industry where you are working against a deadline. I worked in auditing and finance - deadlines were part of my life for the last 20 years with "crunches" or whatever you want to call it, extra hours put in when you have to meet a deadline. This will happen in any real business that wants to succeed - you cannot have spare capacity 80% of the time so that you can avoid overtime 20% of the time (that crucial 10% when you actually want to finish something ON TIME). You can defend almost every awful business practice with that. I bet even Harvey Weinstein would argue the same way. What I'm trying to say is: those are no arguments.
Common exploitation doesn't make it right. People who are creative and want to make games don't have to accept those practices. All the working rights we have nowadays were commonly accepted deficits which were then changed so workers get exploited less. I see no reason not to raise awareness. I know one day it can be different.
Crunch is bad. No matter how you put it. And I really don't understand how anybody could defend it even the tiniest bit. Why argue against regular working hours?
If you think you have a universal solution, then please start a business and make it successful without putting in any extra time. Hire enough talented employees who will never have to work an hour of overtime, yet still be profitable as a business. Good luck with that one.