Serious question. I was going to get the pre-release package (it was something like $110 Cdn) - but thought better of it. Now I'm wondering if I should wait for a price drop, given all the issues I've read about.

Are the issues that bad, or is this typical hyperbole - and people who love to pile on things?

I've got 595 hours of gameplay registered on Galaxy so far and while some of that was falling asleep with the game on or other things where I wasn't playing, the game itself says I have played for 444:41, so it keeps track of time a bit differently. I've completed all of the side quests, NCPD cop quests, random cop stuff, racing quests, 2 of the 4 crappy fight quests, and the main quest line up to and not including a quest that takes you "to the point of no return". My menu says I am 90%, 60%, and 40% complete in the 3 categories shown. My character is maxed out at level 50 with max Street Cred of 50 also. In addition to that I have put quests on hold numerous times to explore the city and kill gangsters in alleys, joy ride, parkour climb on top of skyscrapers etc. Along the way I have found hidden things that trigger additional secret questlines also that do not show up as main quests nor on the map at all and completed them.

I have not yet finished the game, but as you can see from the above I've had oodles of time to play it and see all of the good and bad it has to offer other than the end of the story (by progressing through the point of no return).

Having said all of that, the main story is pretty awesome IMHO, there are some strong characters and situations, and a lot of action packed sequences. Also a lot of the side quests are really cool too, and some are pretty damn funny. Sadly, some of the quests in the game are interrupted by game bugs or immersion is broken by bugs or bad programming or bad design choices or whatnot that needs to be polished up in the future (I hope).

My first 5 days of playing I encountered no real bugs, but ever since then it is almost impossible to go for 15 minutes without seeing some bug or glitch or bad AI or something that makes me think "damn, if they only postponed this game another year or two and finished it off completely before releasing it, it could have been an epic 10 out of 10 masterpiece"... but they didn't.

The game is incredibly bug ridden, super bad AI, people walking floating in the air, cars driving through walls of buildings or falling from the sky, people doing the same thing or walking in circles, people in a 3 block radius panic like you shot someone just because you accidentally bumped into someone due to the way they have dodge set up as double tap direction keys which is really easy to accidentally trigger, so half the city goes to a massive panic because you stepped on someone's toe. If you're lucky the cops will magically teleport in 3 feet behind you and shoot you instantly just because you accidentally bumped into someone.

Is the game fun? Parts of it are awesome, but parts of it are terrible due to bad design or being rushed out the door in an incomplete buggy state. Is it worth $80? The Witcher 3 was worth $80 even though they charged far less than that. Cyberpunk in its release state and in its current state is not an $80 game IMHO, and I am a big fan of the company and their games.

IMHO, after they actually fix the plethora of game breaking bugs and other serious bugs, and rewrite the entire NPC and vehicle AI systems, renovate the buggy crappy inventory and crafting systems and a lot of other work, then it might be an $80 game, but honestly it's more of a buggy $40 game in its current state.

Don't get me wrong though, it's not an un-fun game. The story is awesome and some parts of it are very high quality, and there is a lot of entertainment to be found in the game, humour and other things. Night Citty is massive and fun to explore, it's also fun to take photos all over the place. It's really a super mixed bag and everyone I know has mixed feelings about it but is still having fun with it for the most part (on PC).

If you're the type of person who can enjoy a game for what it does good and handle a monumental number of bugs and broken stuff or bad design elements trusting that they will eventually be fixed over time, then it is possible to have fun with it. I mean, I wouldn't have spent over 400 hours if I wasn't enjoying myself, but I'm also quite disappointed at what a buggy and unfinished state it was in and that they charged $80 for it in this state. If I knew in advance it would be like this I would have waited until they fixed the game completely and people were saying it was polished and great before buying and then probably bought it on a seasonal sale.

I'm skeptical that they'll be able to fix everything that really needs to be fixed, but at the same time hopeful that they will, especially with the money they've raked in. My biggest fear is that they lose too many key developers due to the 6+ month long crunch prior to release, and have to hire new talent unfamiliar with the game who have to get up to speed without the original developers being present. That would be a disaster.

Anyhow, if you trust the company enough that they'll fix everything over time and think you can have enough fun regardless of the endless bugs and design issues and don't mind paying $80 to experience it, then go for it. If you'd rather play a completed polished game then I'd recommend wishlisting it and watching each patch that comes out and reading the forums for consensus on the current state of the game over time from people playing it, in particular people who can look at the state of the game objectively for what it is and not just fanboi drool all over it based on what it was supposed to be (but isn't yet).

Also make sure you've got a current gen high end PC too unless you want a total slideshow on low graphics settings with lowered resolution.

As simple as possible:

- If you are happy with a polished, on-rails looter shooter set in a detailed but ultimately superficial open world environment, with RPG (very) lite elements, significant bugs/immersion breaking AI and you have a GTX 20xx or greater to marvel at the graphical bells and whistles .... buy the game

- If you expect an RPG remotely similar to what CDPR pushed during the last 3 years of endless trailers.... don’t buy the game

My short answer is "wait for sale."

Long answer: I love Cyberpunk 2077, gave it a positive review, and still would. The gunplay is far better than I expected, the world is beautiful, and the story and characters are compelling. Sadly, some things like police and AI feel half-baked, and YMMV on the number of bugs you see. Patch 1.1 didn't do CDPR any favors, as it arguably made things even worse. I think the game needed at least another six months in the oven.

Also, V is indeed a "Geralt" style character, rather than a blank slate for the player. The amount of choice in the game is a bit disappointing. Whether this disqualifies the title from RPG status, at this point, is probably purely subjective.

As a Canadian from Toronto living in etobicoke ( have to say to not think i'm lying to you) it is worth 80 dollars. CDPR is still fixing the game as they promised.

My friend who is also polished, his people are very good people who does not dupe everyone. We worked in the same shipping company and he understands every word what they say about on their videos and those guys are good people.

CDPR is not like any other company who messes up a long of things. So have trust in them.

Also if you are a Steam user, Valve is alright too. they have done great things. I'd advise people to tone down the negativity and let them work in peace.

1 drop of glass doesn't mean all glasses will break.

Thanks for the detailed post! Makes the purchasing decision easier: wait until they fix the bugs!

No it's not. Wait for big sale or simply wait until CDPR fixes the game, at least on the technical level. They will likely never deliver what was originally promised (it would require overhauling almost the whole game) and they don't deserve money for delivering a broken product.
Just because they patch the game once in a while and promise to do better, the fact is they went with "do wrong and ask for forgiveness later" instead of not doing wrong in the first place. They already lied multiple times. Their promises hold no value now.

Just be patient and wait until they bugfix the hell out of this game. Few months at least. For now you can play Deus Ex HR to get almost the same experience (albeit with somewhat weaker story) but with far less bugs.

The city is cool, the main quest and characters cool, the world is interesting, beware hidden holes between building, random deaths jumping around models, the experience may vary, a lot.

I am not in the wagon of refund, but I suggest you wait till 2022, after all updates, dlcs and updates for the updates and dlcs, right now, it's not worth the full price, and I have done the purchase as pre-order.. so.

I am enjoying the game. It has quite a few problems, but mostly they seem fixable. Well, the cops really need to be totally overhauled. Hopefully that will happen. And I'd like to see other AI fixes like gang wars and reputation. Kill enough Tyger Claws and you are Kill on Sight. Maybe another gang will join in to help you...maybe only long enough to then turn on you. More life and NPC and traffic intelligence, too.

Anyhow, bugs and glitches aside. It's a good, sometimes great game with potential to be amazing. Hopefully we will see that happen with patches and DLC.

I also wanted to comment on the need for a high end, current gen PC. That is not true. I am running an i7 6700 with a GTX 1660 and 32gb RAM on a regular, 7200 RPM HDD. At 1080p (the max resolution of my monitor) it runs quite smoothly. This rig is decidedly NOT high end or current gen, so don't believe the claims. I'm sure they're having troubles, but for whatever reason, my old quasi-potato is running well at High settings.

Why even asking? 80 CAD, or even 110 CAD is ultra cheap for Canada. 110 CAD is over 1/35 of monthly median income.

It's not like greedy Wilson from EA who is charging 1/2 to 1/10 of median income in developing countries. That is mental.
Empty world tunneled Star Wars Fallen Order is 75% more expensive than Cyberpunk.

CDPR is one of last with somehow normal prices left. Yes, it does worth to buy, when it's so cheap, yet with much richer world.

Love the genre and CP2077 is one of my favorite games of the year. If you like the genre then I would say it's worth 80 CAD.

Regardless of "median income", I am loathe to spend money on a game with so many bugs. So...$80 is fine if it works, but not if it is a buggy mess.

Waiting is a sound idea. There are some serious glitches, and a game breaking one (with weird work-around). Let things settle and get patched a bit. Unless you REALLY want to play, then go for it. Many people are enjoying it, despite the huge swell of outrage.

I'm not ignoring the definite issues the game has. AI is pretty terrible in many aspects. However, the main story line is very good. Many side missions are great, too. So, it's a very mixed bag.

I will, however push back against the claim that you need a high end current gen PC to run the game. My i7 6700 (not K, just 6700) with a GTX 1660 and 32 gigs of system RAM runs smoothly at 1080p. My machine got a 4767 score on the 3D Mark demo. That's below a gaming laptop from last year and far below the 11000 score for what they consider a high end current gen PC.

So, wait if you're unsure. The game may go on sale some time down the road. More patches and mods will come out in the coming months. But if you do decide to buy it, there's a very good possibility you'll have fun, in spite of all the problems. I've got over 100 hours in the game so far.

First it was in beta, then alpha, now it's pre-alpha. Next outraged youtuber will claim it's somewhere before the invention of greek alphabet, right? Anything as long as people click the video. Yes it is, the game is very good. I had exactly 1 crash in more than 200 hours and the bugs and glitches are minor things that have no impact on anything.