GR11: Ok, so there are a lot of us right now playing and thoroughly enjoying the game and a lot who hate CDPR because the game has still many bugs or is downright unplayable on their machines.

So let's sum the pro's and cons:

(1) The game has great graphics and a very detailed world. Most of us would like to play it, but can't, which results in frustration.
(2) High end graphics and huge open worlds might run badly on many machines. That's why you usually settle for less or provide lower settings.
(3) That is no excuse for having too many bugs. However, I didn't encounter any so far. Maybe I'm blind. Or I didn't notice because I was too immersed in the game.
(4) From what I hear it's especially bad on consoles. I can't judge that obviously.
(5) Some people also feel the story is too linear or too bland. They basically feel that the game is no full blown RPG but more a GTA action adventure.

Apparently, I am one of the lucky few who does not seem to have any issues. I personally feel the game delivers on its premise: To create a dystopic, desintegrated corporate society, which you immediately despise.

However, I also feel that Cyberpunk 2077 is simply too negative for my tastes. I prefer beautiful nature & magic as in Skyrim.

GR11: Ok, so there are a lot of us right now playing and thoroughly enjoying the game and a lot who hate CDPR because the game has still many bugs or is downright unplayable on their machines.

So let's sum the pro's and cons:

(1) The game has great graphics and a very detailed world. Most of us would like to play it, but can't, which results in frustration.
(2) High end graphics and huge open worlds might run badly on many machines. That's why you usually settle for less or provide lower settings.
(3) That is no excuse for having too many bugs. However, I didn't encounter any so far. Maybe I'm blind. Or I didn't notice because I was too immersed in the game.
(4) From what I hear it's especially bad on consoles. I can't judge that obviously.
(5) Some people also feel the story is too linear or too bland. They basically feel that the game is no full blown RPG but more a GTA action adventure.

Apparently, I am one of the lucky few who does not seem to have any issues. I personally feel the game delivers on its premise: To create a dystopic, desintegrated corporate society, which you immediately despise.

However, I also feel that Cyberpunk 2077 is simply too negative for my tastes. I prefer beautiful nature & magic as in Skyrim.

Arachnarok_Rider: I would say that while I'm having fun with the game, I'm also getting increasingly frustrated with just how much CDPR underdelivered on pretty much everything.

The game is currently "fun" sci-fi arcade action. It is Borderlands, except without all the grief of increasingly spongy enemies and weapons that you have to replace every 30 minutes. And Night City is very nice.

But...

1) Night City is not "alive". There is a metric ton of randomly spawned NPCs walking around that are purely eye candy, but none of them have any significance. They do not live anywhere, they serve no function, they have no real role other than being decoration. You can kill a thousand of them and it makes no difference, the game just respawns new filler people.

2) The police is a sick joke. Probably the most laughably undercooked implementation of police in a triple-A game since the term was invented.

3) Gangs are just groupings of people with a particular fashion sense. Gang affiliation is currently just cosmetic. There is no consequence whatsoever for declaring total war against any and all gang members. The gang will not come after you, they will not hold a grudge next time they see you, they will neither remember nor even acknowledge that you have massacred them for loot and experience.

4) Most choices don't really matter. You end the same place regardless. You can sneak through a mission or shoot the hell out of it, and maybe your mission bonus is impacted, but mission accomplished is mission accomplished and nobody remembers how you did it anyway. Nobody cares.

5) For all the horsepoo CDPR spewed about "style" and "fashion" in the game, it really does not matter one bit. Nobody cares and players can't really concern themselves with it either.

6) The nudity toggle is a lie. You cannot switch nudity on. You can cut people's heads off but you must take a shower with your underwear on, and you cannot stick it to conservative norms by running around naked, because that would be too much punk.

7) Gun customization is simply not there. You can throw in predefined mods as well as maybe a scope and a silencer, but you don't get a say in color schemes and you can't really tweak your gun. And given how much we're using guns, this is really a bummer.

8) Missions are not complex. Sure, that one prologue mission with the bot had a fair bit of depth, but almost everything else is either "go here, shoot there, all done", or it contains very sensitive script triggers that are at risk of breaking. Some of the cyber-psycho missions go fubar if you approach from weird angles or save and reload at various points, and the drunk target shooting party crashing thing at the 6th street gathering appears to be very touch and go.

9) Item depth is depressing. I'm only level 20 so far (but high 30's in street cred) and I find so many of the same damn guns all the time, but they're all identical and most are rubbish. And it really is kind of sad to have been through probably hundreds of exactly the same gun with zero cool tweaks or conversions on them.

10) The game doesn't strictly speaking prevent you from role-playing, but it sure doesn't make it easy either. There's really nothing in the game that helps you anchor yourself to a particular personality, and a lot of missions will really boil down to either being a high level sneaky hacker who can be bothered slowly crawling through the obstacles or alternatively full on hardcore murder-hobo.

11) There's a funny mission where you pick up a painting that was out in space. It lands in the desert and you then have to discuss the ownership details with a bunch of Militech goons. Spoiler: They don't care if you helped that corpo girl earlier. They don't know who she is. They see you, they'll murder you.

12) You don't hack with monowire. You don't open doors or rip out turrets with gorilla arms. Having gorilla arms does not offer protection or add to melee damage, as one might have expected. They are purely for boxing, essentially a blunt alternative to mantis blades.

13) Crafting kind of sucks. If you can get enough materials then it becomes very strong but getting that much materials takes crazy grinding or cheese.

All in all, this just isn't the game they were talking about before release. So much stuff was cut. I actually didn't think they could do that without creating problems but they managed to more or less gut every single mechanic with complexity to it. Every. Single. One. And I am not convinced that they'll go through the efforts of adding them back in.

wayke: The Story elements and the jokes in this and the piss takes are great, References to movies on the theme and comedic effect there's quiet an amount to be had even the shards and the stories are interesting, People complaining that it lacks the content are playing something else or they own a PS4.

Rangamanga: What a shit shower lol

the game is not that detailed its all just surface fluff
cant hardly interact with anything
its a boring play world

Winwood113: Did you find the street preacher acting out the Cyberpunk version of the Street Preacher scene from Monty Python's Life of Brian? That gave me a laugh :)

GR11: Ok, so there are a lot of us right now playing and thoroughly enjoying the game and a lot who hate CDPR because the game has still many bugs or is downright unplayable on their machines.

So let's sum the pro's and cons:

(1) The game has great graphics and a very detailed world. Most of us would like to play it, but can't, which results in frustration.
(2) High end graphics and huge open worlds might run badly on many machines. That's why you usually settle for less or provide lower settings.
(3) That is no excuse for having too many bugs. However, I didn't encounter any so far. Maybe I'm blind. Or I didn't notice because I was too immersed in the game.
(4) From what I hear it's especially bad on consoles. I can't judge that obviously.
(5) Some people also feel the story is too linear or too bland. They basically feel that the game is no full blown RPG but more a GTA action adventure.

Apparently, I am one of the lucky few who does not seem to have any issues. I personally feel the game delivers on its premise: To create a dystopic, desintegrated corporate society, which you immediately despise.

However, I also feel that Cyberpunk 2077 is simply too negative for my tastes. I prefer beautiful nature & magic as in Skyrim.

Arachnarok_Rider: I would say that while I'm having fun with the game, I'm also getting increasingly frustrated with just how much CDPR underdelivered on pretty much everything.

The game is currently "fun" sci-fi arcade action. It is Borderlands, except without all the grief of increasingly spongy enemies and weapons that you have to replace every 30 minutes. And Night City is very nice.

But...

1) Night City is not "alive". There is a metric ton of randomly spawned NPCs walking around that are purely eye candy, but none of them have any significance. They do not live anywhere, they serve no function, they have no real role other than being decoration. You can kill a thousand of them and it makes no difference, the game just respawns new filler people.

2) The police is a sick joke. Probably the most laughably undercooked implementation of police in a triple-A game since the term was invented.

3) Gangs are just groupings of people with a particular fashion sense. Gang affiliation is currently just cosmetic. There is no consequence whatsoever for declaring total war against any and all gang members. The gang will not come after you, they will not hold a grudge next time they see you, they will neither remember nor even acknowledge that you have massacred them for loot and experience.

4) Most choices don't really matter. You end the same place regardless. You can sneak through a mission or shoot the hell out of it, and maybe your mission bonus is impacted, but mission accomplished is mission accomplished and nobody remembers how you did it anyway. Nobody cares.

5) For all the horsepoo CDPR spewed about "style" and "fashion" in the game, it really does not matter one bit. Nobody cares and players can't really concern themselves with it either.

6) The nudity toggle is a lie. You cannot switch nudity on. You can cut people's heads off but you must take a shower with your underwear on, and you cannot stick it to conservative norms by running around naked, because that would be too much punk.

7) Gun customization is simply not there. You can throw in predefined mods as well as maybe a scope and a silencer, but you don't get a say in color schemes and you can't really tweak your gun. And given how much we're using guns, this is really a bummer.

8) Missions are not complex. Sure, that one prologue mission with the bot had a fair bit of depth, but almost everything else is either "go here, shoot there, all done", or it contains very sensitive script triggers that are at risk of breaking. Some of the cyber-psycho missions go fubar if you approach from weird angles or save and reload at various points, and the drunk target shooting party crashing thing at the 6th street gathering appears to be very touch and go.

9) Item depth is depressing. I'm only level 20 so far (but high 30's in street cred) and I find so many of the same damn guns all the time, but they're all identical and most are rubbish. And it really is kind of sad to have been through probably hundreds of exactly the same gun with zero cool tweaks or conversions on them.

10) The game doesn't strictly speaking prevent you from role-playing, but it sure doesn't make it easy either. There's really nothing in the game that helps you anchor yourself to a particular personality, and a lot of missions will really boil down to either being a high level sneaky hacker who can be bothered slowly crawling through the obstacles or alternatively full on hardcore murder-hobo.

11) There's a funny mission where you pick up a painting that was out in space. It lands in the desert and you then have to discuss the ownership details with a bunch of Militech goons. Spoiler: They don't care if you helped that corpo girl earlier. They don't know who she is. They see you, they'll murder you.

12) You don't hack with monowire. You don't open doors or rip out turrets with gorilla arms. Having gorilla arms does not offer protection or add to melee damage, as one might have expected. They are purely for boxing, essentially a blunt alternative to mantis blades.

13) Crafting kind of sucks. If you can get enough materials then it becomes very strong but getting that much materials takes crazy grinding or cheese.

All in all, this just isn't the game they were talking about before release. So much stuff was cut. I actually didn't think they could do that without creating problems but they managed to more or less gut every single mechanic with complexity to it. Every. Single. One. And I am not convinced that they'll go through the efforts of adding them back in.

Queen6: CDPR blatantly lied & misled it's customers, promising a deep story driven RPG with a focus on FPS, what we got is a weak shallow looter/shooter that's been done better by others barring the graphical representation of NC.

Played Cyberpunk 2077 end to end twice, near zero replay value. Uninstalled the game to make space for others that have more depth than a teaspoon water. CDPR should be ashamed of their behaviour and this shambles of a release, the bugs are one thing, the performance another, the lies simply unacceptable.

CDPR need to take ownership and deliver what they advertised simple as that...

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