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No refund for me either, I preordered it though, but like with the witcher 3, I will not really play it again until most of the issues are fixed as many forget the witcher 3's rocky start...
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TZODnmr2k5: No refund for me either, I preordered it though, but like with the witcher 3, I will not really play it again until most of the issues are fixed as many forget the witcher 3's rocky start...
Witcher 3 wasn't anywhere near this broken at launch. If that was a rocky launch then Cyberpunk has stoned me to death.
Nobody expects a big open world game or any "AAA" game these days to be launched in a perfect state but if the majority of players does not take the refund to buy a functional Cyberpunk for less money years from now then this poor business practice of concealing the true state of a game to trick people into buying an early access title for full price is vindicated.

This is anti-consumer and the least Cyberpunk thing there is. You deserved better.
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TZODnmr2k5: No refund for me either, I preordered it though, but like with the witcher 3, I will not really play it again until most of the issues are fixed as many forget the witcher 3's rocky start...
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TencentInvestor: Witcher 3 wasn't anywhere near this broken at launch. If that was a rocky launch then Cyberpunk has stoned me to death.
TW3 wasn't perfect at launch but it was 100% playable. There were bugs here and there, and a lot of complaints about the UI. CDPR to their credit worked really hard and completely changed the UI, added a lot of requested features like scabbards on NPCs, and generally took everyone's feedback seriously and acted on it. The way they handled TW3 is what convinced be it was safe to preorder CP2077. Unfortunately CP2077 is nowhere near the state TW3 was at launch. It didn't crash for me, but it was full of jank and glitches like vehicles sinking into the ground, and more importantly its systems are terrible and it just doesn't deliver the content they promised.
This is anti-consumer and the least Cyberpunk thing there is. You deserved better.
Well, in a meta way, being screwed over by an uncaring corporation is absolutely Cyberpunk. But most of us wanted that to happen in-game, not in real life.
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ast486: I just wanna play the game.
Cause from what time I've been able to play without crashing, the game looks great and is great fun!

It is nice that they are publicly trying to make sure everyone who wants a refund, gets one though.

I mean I can't play right now, cause it crashes even more then it did with 1.03, but I'm impatiently waiting.
The patch process sucks, but I think I have figured out a way around that 3+ hour patch process, so I'll try that next time they release a patch.

I'm going to go play another game while I wait for the next patch.... probably van helsing complete.
What are the rest of you who are just waiting for the patch going to play?
Whats your os? For me taking win10 sadly made game extremely good. no crashes, infinite alt tab if i want to. Say your specs
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TencentInvestor: Actually, the terrible experience with Cyberpunk 2077 has reignited my passion for open world games that actually work. Like GTA V, RDR 2 and even the Bethesda and Ubisoft games. Say what you will about Skyrim and Fallout, I never once encountered several game breaking bugs within 20 hours of playtime in any of these games. Maybe I was luckier then. Or maybe the games were less broken. Probably the latter. Witcher 3 is still great, too. Might as well replay that.
I am at nearly 30 hours in Cyberpunk and I didn't encounter a single game breaking bug, plenty of bugs with NPC in the street phasing through the ground, peoples having gun stick out of their heads, and other glitch, but nothing impacting my progression, what kind of game-breaking bug did you encounter ?
Im at 29 and 50 streetcred, if anything I would love to give them more money.
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TencentInvestor: Everyone at CDPR is tired right now and nothing will be done over the holiday season.
Just so you know there are at least 3 patches coming; in one week, one in January and one in February. But I guess that's still "nothing" to you ;P

And the game actually delves in dark/dystopian themes even if you don't always literally see the brutal and most violent action.
Post edited December 15, 2020 by sanscript
I had trouble starting the game before the 1.04 patch, and I've noticed some visual glitches (my car floating, NPCs phasewalking through one another, etc.) and typos.

No other issues so far, and I'm loving the world, characters and combat.

CDPR has generally done right by their customer base over the years. Modern AAA publishing sets a low bar, true, but still. I'm mildly annoyed by some of these issues, but the overall gaming experience has been great, and I'm confident the worst problems will be patched out soon.
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TZODnmr2k5: No refund for me either, I preordered it though, but like with the witcher 3, I will not really play it again until most of the issues are fixed as many forget the witcher 3's rocky start...
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TencentInvestor: Witcher 3 wasn't anywhere near this broken at launch. If that was a rocky launch then Cyberpunk has stoned me to death.
Nobody expects a big open world game or any "AAA" game these days to be launched in a perfect state but if the majority of players does not take the refund to buy a functional Cyberpunk for less money years from now then this poor business practice of concealing the true state of a game to trick people into buying an early access title for full price is vindicated.

This is anti-consumer and the least Cyberpunk thing there is. You deserved better.
Yeah, I suppose I was reaching, but yeah, CDPR did us wrong with this broken launch, I mean, the AI is atrocious, the optimization horrific and the bugs numerous, they need to get off their asses and re-work the game to it's promised glory, in short, they need to do a Sean Murry!
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TencentInvestor: Everyone at CDPR is tired right now and nothing will be done over the holiday season.
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sanscript: Just so you know there are at least 3 patches coming; in one week, one in January and one in February. But I guess that's still "nothing" to you ;P

And the game actually delves in dark/dystopian themes even if you don't always literally see the brutal and most violent action.
The game constantly insinuates dark things but it shows you nothing of the impact. a few bodies left and right makes it feel nothing different is really going on and feels more like they were playing it safe with the actual dark aspects. where are all those BDSM freaks walking the street or the human meat factors or factories where people are being dismembered on mass behind the scene by the maelstrom. where is the stuff like holographic nude advertisement like Bladerunner did?

This game feels very wholesome, to be honest. Most people here say it's dark but it shows you nothing that could be considered dark. They need to focus more on taboo subjects for the sake of making it go into the dark side. Kinda like how china operates like all that organ harvesting or eating all sorts of animals those kinda things most people look away from but are real cyberpunk style event that is also happening in the real world as a reflection.

I know some things wouldn't be allowed for good reason but it does feel like a letdown that both gore and nudity are massively absent from this game.

Also, They did censor the game. Guess I'm asking for a refund. guess CDPR couldn't cope with nudity it seems and went "woke". Explains why the game was so tame in its subject matter.
https://forums.cdprojektred.com/index.php?threads/pc-no-nude-on-first-person-view-mirrors-photo-mode-not-a-bug.11041100/page-37#post-12386645
Post edited December 15, 2020 by dgnfly
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dgnfly: The game constantly insinuates dark things but it shows you nothing of the impact. a few bodies left and right makes it feel nothing different is really going on.
thought thats the point with cyberpunk/shadowrun, hyper-normalization, hell they even boast about the antartica being the place to live cause the murder rate is about 70 to 100000. billboard adds from selling sex, guns for the whole family on the cheap, even the adds only channel advertisement looks like a happy tree friends episode. theres no impact because its a day to day occurrence for the people of that setting.
on that note ive seen what looks to be home brew chop shops in some favela sheds with corpses on meathooks and what not. near the harbour area were you plant a bug on a car.
I originally applied for a refund and changed my mind. I love this game.
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CymTyr: I originally applied for a refund and changed my mind. I love this game.
Well, CDPR originally planned to release a finished product but changed their mind.
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dgnfly: The game constantly insinuates dark things but it shows you nothing of the impact. a few bodies left and right makes it feel nothing different is really going on.
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NoobyMcNoobnoob: thought thats the point with cyberpunk/shadowrun, hyper-normalization, hell they even boast about the antartica being the place to live cause the murder rate is about 70 to 100000. billboard adds from selling sex, guns for the whole family on the cheap, even the adds only channel advertisement looks like a happy tree friends episode. theres no impact because its a day to day occurrence for the people of that setting.
on that note ive seen what looks to be home brew chop shops in some favela sheds with corpses on meathooks and what not. near the harbour area were you plant a bug on a car.
Dude the game is tame as hell you'd need to be near horror levels to give off the cyberpunk experience and it is now already proven they axed the nudity for the sake of the feeble-minded people out there. There should be non-stop crime and all you see is the same generic shit left and right. Like I said it's all insinuation and nothing is really physically in front of you. it would be no different than me describing a book to you and expecting you to be immersed by your own imagination.
I'm having more fun with this game right now than I've had with any game in a very long time. After everything that has happened in my life this past year this is the experience I needed to get me through the next couple months.