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Tracido: Which brings the reason people were upset in the first place, they LIED, said it would be an adult rpg, and absolutely had no intention of delivering that kind of product, and wanted to mass sell to children. Since they did not have to censor nearly anything that was removed.
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BanditKeith2: That is true at the very least what you just stated on why people are upset and mad.. I may not have been hyped about the game like others nor followed it but I was aware of some of the lies and antics going on .. so I understand the anger and such going on here.. granted the only reason I have Cyberpunk 2077 in my account I admit is because of despite the lies and such what the product came out to be from some playthroughs I watched bits of is alot like what I can best districribe as a Skyrim or Fallout 4 with a Cyberpunk coating of paint and I know I enjoyed those games in terms of the game play .Granted I got those two when on sale but still its the reason I got this one game here
I hope it becomes something special, but right now, this has been just a nightmare in corporate bullshit. Literaly the ironic political point behind the series.. Hence so many are saying the game is now a meme. Mods can only do so much, and I left Skyrim many years ago for that reason, I don't get into gaming to have modders build the world I want to play it. Developers shoudl do that, that's what i pay them for.
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BanditKeith2: That is true at the very least what you just stated on why people are upset and mad.. I may not have been hyped about the game like others nor followed it but I was aware of some of the lies and antics going on .. so I understand the anger and such going on here.. granted the only reason I have Cyberpunk 2077 in my account I admit is because of despite the lies and such what the product came out to be from some playthroughs I watched bits of is alot like what I can best districribe as a Skyrim or Fallout 4 with a Cyberpunk coating of paint and I know I enjoyed those games in terms of the game play .Granted I got those two when on sale but still its the reason I got this one game here
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Tracido: I hope it becomes something special, but right now, this has been just a nightmare in corporate bullshit. Literaly the ironic political point behind the series.. Hence so many are saying the game is now a meme. Mods can only do so much, and I left Skyrim many years ago for that reason, I don't get into gaming to have modders build the world I want to play it. Developers shoudl do that, that's what i pay them for.
Agreed fully on that all..For me I never have modded Skyrim unless you count .. getting the freebies on the creation club Thing modding(I do considering it a form of modding )as Skryim special addition and Fallout 4 has creation club freebies I grab but never by them .. still For Fallout 4 I only modded in more music( I love listing to music while playing games so Fallout 3 ,New Vegas and Fallout 4 are great for me in that fact) But nothing else

As for more so on the topic of CDPR and Cyberpunkhere I do hope Cyberpunk becomes something special..Aswell as I hope CDPR learns from this scenerio they got themselves in and don't repeat it
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Tracido: I hope it becomes something special, but right now, this has been just a nightmare in corporate bullshit. Literaly the ironic political point behind the series.. Hence so many are saying the game is now a meme. Mods can only do so much, and I left Skyrim many years ago for that reason, I don't get into gaming to have modders build the world I want to play it. Developers shoudl do that, that's what i pay them for.
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BanditKeith2: Agreed fully on that all..For me I never have modded Skyrim unless you count .. getting the freebies on the creation club Thing modding(I do considering it a form of modding )as Skryim special addition and Fallout 4 has creation club freebies I grab but never by them .. still For Fallout 4 I only modded in more music( I love listing to music while playing games so Fallout 3 ,New Vegas and Fallout 4 are great for me in that fact) But nothing else

As for more so on the topic of CDPR and Cyberpunkhere I do hope Cyberpunk becomes something special..Aswell as I hope CDPR learns from this scenerio they got themselves in and don't repeat it
I mean, I'm getting into Watchdogs Legion now, (Ugh, I don't like any AAA companies, Ubisoft included) but, these horrible managers at Red messed up the real meat & potatoes. Have you even looked at a tenth of the missing features? We have new videos everyday sometimes of new aentire areas unfinished. This wasn't just some rush, this needed until 2022, and the team told them long ago. The censorship is like a fleck compared to all wrong with the game right now..
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BanditKeith2: Agreed fully on that all..For me I never have modded Skyrim unless you count .. getting the freebies on the creation club Thing modding(I do considering it a form of modding )as Skryim special addition and Fallout 4 has creation club freebies I grab but never by them .. still For Fallout 4 I only modded in more music( I love listing to music while playing games so Fallout 3 ,New Vegas and Fallout 4 are great for me in that fact) But nothing else

As for more so on the topic of CDPR and Cyberpunkhere I do hope Cyberpunk becomes something special..Aswell as I hope CDPR learns from this scenerio they got themselves in and don't repeat it
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Tracido: I mean, I'm getting into Watchdogs Legion now, (Ugh, I don't like any AAA companies, Ubisoft included) but, these horrible managers at Red messed up the real meat & potatoes. Have you even looked at a tenth of the missing features? We have new videos everyday sometimes of new aentire areas unfinished. This wasn't just some rush, this needed until 2022, and the team told them long ago. The censorship is like a fleck compared to all wrong with the game right now..
Yeah I have to a degree and honestly missing loads of content for games that was said would be in a game or implied would be is nothing new to me as games have don't that for several years now... Not that I am saying thats okay or anything.. but rather I am used to that as a whole now.. doesn't mean I agree with it or want it that way.. just that I have come to expect such anymore

Also FYI I rarely buy games new or newish.. only afew I have which with the exception of CyberPunk 2077 my exceptions on buying games new are indie games when releasted (As I want Indie games to succeed) and if they are a installment or even remake or reboot from a seemingly long dead if not just dorment ip and I want the game to succeed in sales to raise the chances of a ip returning .. so long as it is a IP I enjoy .. But outside those cases I buy games years after release unless for some reason they are deepily discounted in a year or less


Anyway Cyberpunk and CDPR is a mess right now no denying that but and I can see this as sorta a excuse when read a set way when its not meant as one.. but with gamers mad the game was elayed twice ,,,or was it three times? I can understand if some people was like'' we need to release it now because of them getting mad at the delays.. I'd say more for the money aspesct but I could see some people there wanting it out to be done with gamers mad at the delay
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BanditKeith2: How did my reply come off as excusing the censorship matters and such? I just was stating a truth on how the rules/laws are and how game companies tend to now go with the lowest common denominator for the least likilyhood of needing to alter a game that much if at all for other markerts they'd desire releasing a game in

By the way I am against Censorship and changing a vision of something as a whole ..
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Tracido: Because it is, there is only one decent company when it comes to dealing with censorship. Rockstar.

They made sure to not remove even full frontal nudity from their latest open world RPG for ALL here.

They even had the decency to re-release Manhunt 2 in Adults Only format. SeedyPR, nothing of the sort.

Hell even the other I ALREADY MENTIONED WAS IGNORED. Watchdogs 2 has ENTIRE NUDIST COMMUNITIES FULLY FRONTALLY NUDE.
WD2 Marcus and Raymond are the characters I can like, but the rest I want to burn those characters while they're screaming, the story with all of them involved is the most trite inane concentration of rejects, Rejects in a story should be likable quirky these characters are not their PC Cultured cryhards who all need to be dragged behind whatever car Marcus steals next.
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Tracido: Because it is, there is only one decent company when it comes to dealing with censorship. Rockstar.

They made sure to not remove even full frontal nudity from their latest open world RPG for ALL here.

They even had the decency to re-release Manhunt 2 in Adults Only format. SeedyPR, nothing of the sort.

Hell even the other I ALREADY MENTIONED WAS IGNORED. Watchdogs 2 has ENTIRE NUDIST COMMUNITIES FULLY FRONTALLY NUDE.
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wayke: WD2 Marcus and Raymond are the characters I can like, but the rest I want to burn those characters while they're screaming, the story with all of them involved is the most trite inane concentration of rejects, Rejects in a story should be likable quirky these characters are not their PC Cultured cryhards who all need to be dragged behind whatever car Marcus steals next.
I honestly don't really remember any of them very well but I wasn't in that for the story, it was the gameplay & immersion that game got me with, it was shocking because the first game had, clearly not so good gameplay & immersion.

Reminds me though, of something funny in this topic that just came out:

The REAL Issue with Cyberpunk 2077 https://youtu.be/vEvXDKwbUTI
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wayke: WD2 Marcus and Raymond are the characters I can like, but the rest I want to burn those characters while they're screaming, the story with all of them involved is the most trite inane concentration of rejects, Rejects in a story should be likable quirky these characters are not their PC Cultured cryhards who all need to be dragged behind whatever car Marcus steals next.
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Tracido: I honestly don't really remember any of them very well but I wasn't in that for the story, it was the gameplay & immersion that game got me with, it was shocking because the first game had, clearly not so good gameplay & immersion.

Reminds me though, of something funny in this topic that just came out:

The REAL Issue with Cyberpunk 2077 https://youtu.be/vEvXDKwbUTI
That's a good and light hearted one. Nudity in this game is bizarre and inconsistent to the point of absurdity. We could talk about it for hours, but it was all said already.
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Tracido: I honestly don't really remember any of them very well but I wasn't in that for the story, it was the gameplay & immersion that game got me with, it was shocking because the first game had, clearly not so good gameplay & immersion.

Reminds me though, of something funny in this topic that just came out:

The REAL Issue with Cyberpunk 2077 https://youtu.be/vEvXDKwbUTI
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midrand: That's a good and light hearted one. Nudity in this game is bizarre and inconsistent to the point of absurdity. We could talk about it for hours, but it was all said already.
No, it acually was not, there was a question about a serious subject asked in a thread which was locked about, rape. Well RDR2 did that better, too. By actually touching the subject.. https://youtu.be/OHSQ9_Jwzcw
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Tracido: Have you checked the Joytoy on JigJig street that stands around without panties and leaves her nipples out? Good place to check, also, the strippers, do they still have pasties now (Since 1.04 at least)?

Not to mention, do I still have to stare at my underwear when i just want to naturally take a shower?
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XYCat: They all wear nun outfits now.
They became Mormons
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Abishia: that's the price you pay if you play games that also ported to consoles.
ether keep making them rich by playing console port games or refuse or support it in the end it's the customer that is the end consumer.
Good luck in finding high production value games not "ported" on consoles (it's the other way around, actually: most games get made for consoles, then ported on PC).
Post edited January 31, 2021 by gtsr
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Tracido: Honestly, the only reason i think we haven't had a real military run corporate war in the United States is simply that corporations have so much more profit and protected exploitation by working with the government to devour each other, destroy workers rights, et cetera, without wasted spending on such expenses as military wars would cost..

However, at least in this game it's canon, could have been done better, though, sure.
Marx understood this long time ago: "The executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie. ... the state apparatus exists merely to satisfy the bourgeoisie"

bourgeoisie = the capitalists, the corporations.