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For me, it ain't about the bugs. It's about the 20GB of missing features and contents.
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AllenOneil: For me, it ain't about the bugs. It's about the 20GB of missing features and contents.
Where'd you pull that number from?
Cyberpunk 2077 is quite fun RPG to be honest, but advertised as revolutionary real life city simulator. CDPR pulled out Muhammad Ali on themselves with promo campaign - " I AM THE GREATEST " could be heard everywhere.

To me open world aspects are most fun and it kinda plays like mixture of Fallout 4\ FarCry and some stealth FPS game.

By the way... the story... It makes ZERO sense why protagonist we controlling would do any side activities considering hes\her situation with the BioChip ( the other aspect of BioChip - not Johnny ).

"We'll bang, okay ?"

Huge potential for improvement is in open world that is ( sadly ) tied to the main story - we can't fully explore the game without getting biochip, and also many interesting NPC's are locked behind main story. I can't believe we can't skip even something so shallow like mandatory Braindance introduction. Second playthrough - guys, straight up BORING.

For example in Fallout 4 I can completely ignore searching for Shaun and make my own story right fromn the get go. Here, you basicaly can't fully have fun in the game if you wont touch main story.
Fire the game director becouse I would figure it out it's a horrible decision after 5 min thinking about it.

Prediction : CDPR is going to cancel all planned DLC expansions and turn this game into somewhat successful multiplayer game :)
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J289: Yeah im disappointed CDPR (or whoever at CDPR/investors made that decision) decided to hide PS4 & Xbox One versions, i think it was a really bad move and they should have just delayed these 2 versions of the game and not release them yet.

I was actually expecting that something like this would happen because of all the delays + a virus pandemic on top of it.
People are running with a narrative that bugs and technical issues are all that is wrong with the game, which is far from the truth - the whole thing is a mess.
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J289: Yeah im disappointed CDPR (or whoever at CDPR/investors made that decision) decided to hide PS4 & Xbox One versions, i think it was a really bad move and they should have just delayed these 2 versions of the game and not release them yet.

I was actually expecting that something like this would happen because of all the delays + a virus pandemic on top of it.
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gungrave1337: People are running with a narrative that bugs and technical issues are all that is wrong with the game, which is far from the truth - the whole thing is a mess.
Bugs are the first thing you notice. Once you understand the story behind this game's release, the decisions made by CDPR, you see the full extent of this mess.
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gungrave1337: People are running with a narrative that bugs and technical issues are all that is wrong with the game, which is far from the truth - the whole thing is a mess.
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TencentInvestor: Bugs are the first thing you notice. Once you understand the story behind this game's release, the decisions made by CDPR, you see the full extent of this mess.
What bugs? The game runs flawlessly on my system. Now if you have a computer from the 1990's with windows 7 on it you might have bugs.
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TencentInvestor: Bugs are the first thing you notice. Once you understand the story behind this game's release, the decisions made by CDPR, you see the full extent of this mess.
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IAmBored2: What bugs? The game runs flawlessly on my system. Now if you have a computer from the 1990's with windows 7 on it you might have bugs.
Sounds like you got version 20.77 from 2023.
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AllenOneil: For me, it ain't about the bugs. It's about the 20GB of missing features and contents.
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Pure_Mind_Games: Where'd you pull that number from?
idk it was just an expression
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Pure_Mind_Games: Where'd you pull that number from?
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AllenOneil: idk it was just an expression
We cannot yet quantify the amount of data needed to make the game into what was promised.
Just like the loss of faith in them cannot be quantified after this mess.
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TencentInvestor: Bugs are the first thing you notice. Once you understand the story behind this game's release, the decisions made by CDPR, you see the full extent of this mess.
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IAmBored2: What bugs? The game runs flawlessly on my system. Now if you have a computer from the 1990's with windows 7 on it you might have bugs.
Even if you get 200+ fps on 8k and every setting at ultra or higher, doesn't mean the game works as it should. Horrible physics engine (which I think is reason for most of the bugs this game has), UI glitches (chip-related flickering doesn't go away until game restart, item description not going away, etc.), dead, static world (NPCs don't do anything but walk or sit where they spawned, shops are open 24/7 with shopkeepers always behind the counter, etc), terrible NPC AI in general (in combat and outside of it), bland cybernetics and hacks and many more.
Crying over delays, crying over bugs, all you people can do is crying.
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apfelnymous: Crying over delays, crying over bugs, all you people can do is crying.
Well, we PAID for this game. We have a right to complain about a broken product.
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apfelnymous: Crying over delays, crying over bugs, all you people can do is crying.
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Naoya8: Well, we PAID for this game. We have a right to complain about a broken product.
Especially if advertised as launched "when ready". Got a right to refund, too. That is the only thing that will show CDPR that they cannot get away with this. The money.

I never cry about delays. In fact, had I seen the reality of this game's state beforehand I wouldn't have trusted CDPR with my pre-order. If you are in charge of a project like this and decide to launch it this way you simply don't care about gamers.

Millions (especially on console) are stuck with an early access game they didn't sign up for now.
And what of the steam users who play for 2 hours on launch only to find that they game is broken?
It's not cool.
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TencentInvestor: https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2020/12/conference-call-with-the-board_14-12-2020.mp3

I know it, you know it, they and the shareholders know it.
Can you have fun with a broken, glitch game? Yes, absolutely.
Can you patch broken games? Yes. I got No Man's Sky day 1. (Never got over that disappointment, though!)

Don't defend a state of things that nobody in charge pretends is acceptable.
I listened to the first minutes of the call, and short story - good launch and good feedback on PC and next-gen consoles, bad launch on past-gen consoles (ps4, xb1). It was obvious. Though you are trying to manipulate information and convince us that the picture has only black shades. Doubtful that you will succeed in your hate hype thing.
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15 minutes into the call, and the topic is still the same - problems with past-gen consoles. I expect this will be a subject of discussion for the rest of the recorded conversation. So why did you name the thread "CDPR admits to have failed us all", if the only fail is the console launch?
Post edited December 16, 2020 by Void Eclipse
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J289: Yeah im disappointed CDPR (or whoever at CDPR/investors made that decision) decided to hide PS4 & Xbox One versions, i think it was a really bad move and they should have just delayed these 2 versions of the game and not release them yet.

I was actually expecting that something like this would happen because of all the delays + a virus pandemic on top of it.
tbh I think the game needed at least a couple of months of pure bug fixing and optimisation on all platforms but they would have been feeling pressure from all sides to release as it had already been delayed a few times previously.

I think the game was always going to disappoint, it was hyped to the point that it would never live up to what people had in their heads.