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BlackSun: "Not reliable"? XD
Way to go with baseless claims like that! While on that topic, I hear that in some cases, packages just completely disappear in the USA without a trace. That's why their store doesn't deliver to USA, true story...!
... for real though, there's always those cheap carriers that "lose" valuable packages if you look hard enough to find them. Or if you have no idea and just sort carriers by price. Happens even in the USA, so please get off your high horse.

As for expensive. Customers are paying for shipping and customs, not the business!
If I order something from abroad outside the EU, there are various confusing rules that apply with customs ranging from no additional fees to double the price in total after customs, but here's the amazing part of it, all of that is on my end, and a business can just go, "* customs and taxes may apply" and they're pretty much done with it. Stick an advanced form on it and / or an exterior envelope with a copy of the delivery note - they have both of those on hand at your post office - and that's it.

Businesses are happy to take anybody's money - as long as they are within the USA.
If they really wanted my money, they could. But they don't care. It's more about, "how lazy can we possibly be and still make a profit" rather than "let's find out how to expand our market to the rest of the world". And that's why lots of potential customers are out of luck world wide. Because, there are those stores that do work international, both small and big. ... witchcraft...!

So yes, in the end it does come down to businesses actually just not caring enough to sell their product outside of the US.
However, fortunately for you, CDPRs store clearly does care enough about their fans world wide, and thus they do invest the efforts of looking into how to most efficiently handle international orders, including USA, and they're doing that literally right now.
Это всё фигня)
У нас в России уничтожают продукты питания бульдозером привезенные из Европы.
При том что 22% населения у нас нищие люди. Им не хватает денег на качественное питание.
I wish CD PROJEKT will prolong expiration date (。•́︿•̀。)
if not forever then at least until the end of this year
cause there is no shipping to Russia yet (っ˘̩╭╮˘̩)っ
and there is no shipping to some other countries as well

PLS, CD PROJEKT!

Who has a similar problem?
Post edited June 13, 2019 by B1ngre
... from 2013. And here's some more up to date data, with a ranking by the Universal Postal Union from late 2016.
Oh and while we're at it with mostly irrelevant links, here's a TV that looks like an apple.

Certainly, you'd agree that looking at these particular datapoints is absolutely no reason whatsoever to deny service to countries on the basis of "unreliability", especially when a lot of the (only potentially) resulting damages are on the customers and not on the businesses. It's the customer who cheaped out and didn't pick insurance for shipping.

All the business has to do is, look for one or two options to offer on their shop for shipping to a destination other than USA, and get familiar with maybe 1 additional form to stick on the package when shipping. That's all they have to do, and only once.

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invenio: For example, I can order a key chain from China for $1 (which includes shipping).
And, comparing a china shop merchant's cost of shipment to any other service on the market while ignoring multiple gigantic caveats of the cheap service serves which purpose...?

Because the flipside is, and I don't know if you've noticed it yet, but this kind of shipping will take just a little under 3 months to make its way to you, if at all, because it's not just the cheapest thing imaginable, but also uninsured. Because why would you insure something worth 20 cents. And you'd probably agree that this approach of "zero-fucks-given" shipping won't do with anything more valuable. Your return shipment is a service you pay your postal office for, to have the item delivered in a much more timely and secure manner. Because they, unlike certain chinese shops, do have some standards.

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invenio: Yet It would cost more than ten times that for me to ship it back.
... it would also arrive - alright, let's do a bit of math here... 3 months are 12 weeks... your shipment will probably take about 1 week... carry the three, divide by zero... - so, about 12 times faster for "10 times the cost"! On top of that, it would be trackable, maybe even somehow insured, and handled by a company that actually takes fulfilling their delivery contracts as more than just a general suggestion.

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invenio: I'm not sure about your argument as CDPR allows digital purchases. The logistics and cost of shipping to some areas may just make it not profitable. If they have to ask $65 for a t-shirt because of shipping, it's just better to not even list to that country. What is so difficult to understand about that?
... now, here, you kinda lost me. What about your purchase with the china shop is... not a digital purchase, exactly...?

But, that point aside, no you are not paying 65 for a T-Shirt. You're paying whatever the T-Shirt's price is, plus shipping. Those shipping costs will not go to the business, but to the shipping service you selected from their options to ship the product(s) to you.

Now, this might be a foreign concept to people in the USA, I don't really know.
But it's not entirely uncommon here for friends to get together for an omnibus order at a shop, to split worst case scenario level shipping costs. Mostly though, it's not too bad, and we'll order despite the 20 or 40 in additional shipping fees on top. That's what a ton of fans all over the world do, have to do, on a regular basis to get their hands on Japan- or USA suff that's not going to hit the global market. And we are legion. So, the more you know...!
Post edited June 13, 2019 by BlackSun
https://twitter.com/CDPROJEKTRED/status/1138875132678737920
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BlackSun: ... from 2013. And here's some more up to date data, with a ranking by the Universal Postal Union from late 2016.
Oh and while we're at it with mostly irrelevant links, here's a TV that looks like an apple.

Certainly, you'd agree that looking at these particular datapoints is absolutely no reason whatsoever to deny service to countries on the basis of "unreliability", especially when a lot of the (only potentially) resulting damages are on the customers and not on the businesses. It's the customer who cheaped out and didn't pick insurance for shipping.

All the business has to do is, look for one or two options to offer on their shop for shipping to a destination other than USA, and get familiar with maybe 1 additional form to stick on the package when shipping. That's all they have to do, and only once.

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invenio: For example, I can order a key chain from China for $1 (which includes shipping).
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BlackSun: And, comparing a china shop merchant's cost of shipment to any other service on the market while ignoring multiple gigantic caveats of the cheap service serves which purpose...?

Because the flipside is, and I don't know if you've noticed it yet, but this kind of shipping will take just a little under 3 months to make its way to you, if at all, because it's not just the cheapest thing imaginable, but also uninsured. Because why would you insure something worth 20 cents. And you'd probably agree that this approach of "zero-fucks-given" shipping won't do with anything more valuable. Your return shipment is a service you pay your postal office for, to have the item delivered in a much more timely and secure manner. Because they, unlike certain chinese shops, do have some standards.

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invenio: Yet It would cost more than ten times that for me to ship it back.
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BlackSun: ... it would also arrive - alright, let's do a bit of math here... 3 months are 12 weeks... your shipment will probably take about 1 week... carry the three, divide by zero... - so, about 12 times faster for "10 times the cost"! On top of that, it would be trackable, maybe even somehow insured, and handled by a company that actually takes fulfilling their delivery contracts as more than just a general suggestion.

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invenio: I'm not sure about your argument as CDPR allows digital purchases. The logistics and cost of shipping to some areas may just make it not profitable. If they have to ask $65 for a t-shirt because of shipping, it's just better to not even list to that country. What is so difficult to understand about that?
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BlackSun: ... now, here, you kinda lost me. What about your purchase with the china shop is... not a digital purchase, exactly...?

But, that point aside, no you are not paying 65 for a T-Shirt. You're paying whatever the T-Shirt's price is, plus shipping. Those shipping costs will not go to the business, but to the shipping service you selected from their options to ship the product(s) to you.

Now, this might be a foreign concept to people in the USA, I don't really know.
But it's not entirely uncommon here for friends to get together for an omnibus order at a shop, to split worst case scenario level shipping costs. Mostly though, it's not too bad, and we'll order despite the 20 or 40 in additional shipping fees on top. That's what a ton of fans all over the world do, have to do, on a regular basis to get their hands on Japan- or USA suff that's not going to hit the global market. And we are legion. So, the more you know...!
Your quote skills are way above mine! But I will try to respond to each point.

1) Reliability is an issue in many parts of the world (less so in the US and rich EU countries). A company may only want to work with one shipper for discount purposes or ease of shipping management.

Also, if an item is lost, the business may be the one taking the loss as I can initiate a chargeback with my credit card company and they almost always side with the card holder if there was no delivery confirmation.

2) Shipping from china usually takes about 2-3 weeks for me in the US. Rarely a month. I was just using China as an example of price difference in to and from shipping.

3) Same as 2) above.

4) What you are describing is a logistic headache for a company and the primary buyer. Let's say you order a few items as a group. What if the shirt size is wrong, or something arrives broken. The person who put the order in is now responsible for getting things fixed. Huge headache. This kind of ordering represents a tiny fraction of their total business. It's just not worth their time.


The bottom line is that shipping in the US is relatively easy and inexpensive for these companies and it's a large market and thus it is worth setting up the logistics to ship in the US. I'm not arguing against shipping to other countries. I'm just trying to think of it from their perspective. How much goods are they really going to ship when the cost of shipping and handling is so high relative to the cost of the product. The volume/profit margin probably does not justify going into small markets. Maybe having to deal with more than 1 or 2 mail carries is a barrier in itself? Who knows. Clearly they don't feel like the investment is worth the return.
posted reply in wrong thread sorry.
Post edited June 13, 2019 by fridgeband
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MagicElmo: Doesn't it say in the FAQ that if you are from the US that if you wait till they open a US store your 30% discount can be used in the US store (as long as you haven't used it up to buy something in Europe)?

I just hope they will refill the stock soon or prolong the expiration date of the discount.
I didn't read that in the FAQ, I'll Check again.

Still, I'm AU so a US store doesn't help me much either.

Was going to pre-order a physical CE at the local Game store but they're coning out at AU430, that's 25% of a high performance gaming rig! I still have 4 unopened copies of TW3 CE so maybe I can sell a couple of those to offset the cost ...... or I could just buy 1 copy of Cyberpunk CE instead.
Thanks for the link. Some poor bugger wanted the same as me (the Ronin styled Polystone figurine) but seems he missed the part in the FAQ's which said the discount couldn't be applied to Figurines ....
Post edited June 15, 2019 by Ebany
Does the code work for the geralt figurine, which in itself is a preorder?
"*One-time discount is valid only for Cyberpunk 2077 pre-orders made on GOG.COM before 17 June 2019, 10 PM UTC, and applies to items available in the official CD PROJEKT RED merchandise store, excluding figurines and products already on discount. Regional and time restrictions apply. See our Support page for more details."

Not sure if its the same for the NA store, but i guess.
Post edited June 15, 2019 by A_B_raxis
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iCeDMeTaL: Does the code work for the geralt figurine, which in itself is a preorder?
I believe all figurines are currently exempt from the discount.
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Flammableghost: Won't let me post the link to the support page. the link is on Cyberpunk's page though you should be able to find it

June 30th 2019 10pm UTC.

What bothers me is the store is not shipping outside of Europe atm and only has US and Canada as "coming soon".
The only problem is... That CDPR Store is constantly out of stock!
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Sylwooo: The only problem is... That CDPR Store is constantly out of stock!
Don't worry it will be restock early July and the discount code is extended until july 12th.
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Sylwooo: The only problem is... That CDPR Store is constantly out of stock!
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A_B_raxis: Don't worry it will be restock early July and the discount code is extended until july 12th.
Where can I see the 12th July info? The official description still states 30th of June. Thank you.
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A_B_raxis: Don't worry it will be restock early July and the discount code is extended until july 12th.
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Jumbik: Where can I see the 12th July info? The official description still states 30th of June. Thank you.
https://twitter.com/CDPROJEKTRED/status/1138875132678737920
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Sylwooo: The only problem is... That CDPR Store is constantly out of stock!
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A_B_raxis: Don't worry it will be restock early July and the discount code is extended until july 12th.
Well, I hope so very much... So far I have bought two Johnny Silverhand baseball caps but I am waiting for "Vesemir's superior swallow" mug.