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Sloopydrew: I understand Windows, entirely, and knew all the steps up to changing things on the blue screen, part. That step is not working for me. I get a message reading, "The version of this file is not compatible with the version of Windows you're running." That message is there in both versions of Windows 7. It's hard to adjust options when you can't open the folders (I have setup and setmain) you need to open to change things.

I'm very familiar with Windows. I actually teach it. Regardless, thanks again, for your help.
Are you trying to run Blood's configuration utility (setup.exe) directly in by double clicking on it in Windows 7? That wont work because setup.exe is an old DOS program. It needs to be run from within DOSBox. I'm not sure why Z told you what he did. GoG should have included a shortcut to Setup.exe within Bloods program links on the Start Menu. If that is not there, how familiar are you with DOSBox? What I mean is, if you run DOSBox.exe directly, do you know how to mount directory as a drive letter? I could walk you through the process of setting Blood up with DOSBox from scratch if need be.
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Sloopydrew: I understand Windows, entirely, and knew all the steps up to changing things on the blue screen, part. That step is not working for me. I get a message reading, "The version of this file is not compatible with the version of Windows you're running." That message is there in both versions of Windows 7. It's hard to adjust options when you can't open the folders (I have setup and setmain) you need to open to change things.

I'm very familiar with Windows. I actually teach it. Regardless, thanks again, for your help.
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DustyStyx: Are you trying to run Blood's configuration utility (setup.exe) directly in by double clicking on it in Windows 7? That wont work because setup.exe is an old DOS program. It needs to be run from within DOSBox. I'm not sure why Z told you what he did. GoG should have included a shortcut to Setup.exe within Bloods program links on the Start Menu. If that is not there, how familiar are you with DOSBox? What I mean is, if you run DOSBox.exe directly, do you know how to mount directory as a drive letter? I could walk you through the process of setting Blood up with DOSBox from scratch if need be.
I would VERY MUCH appreciate it if you could do that for me! I was trying to run it the way Z told me to. I've been downloading and re-downloading it to the point of insanity. Yes, please help me out with how to run this from dosbox. Thank you!
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zzardozz said:

If you have windows xp...

Go to your blood folder and find a program called setup or setmain. These are applications that give you the detailed menu system that lets you configure things. open it, you may get a messege asking you to close or ignore. Choose ignore. Next you'll see a little blue screen called main menu. Choose controller setup from the list (your mouse
probably won't work. Use the keyboard arrow and enter keys). On the next blue screen under Controls menu choose setup mouse. Hit enter on the item you wish to change and you'll get a list of things to choose for that button. You can do the same for the keyboard. Choose the options you prefer.

If you have windows vista or above, I'm not sure what to tell you. You might have to run setup with dosbox. There is a file called blood.cfg that you can try, although I'm not sure if it will give you what you want. If you scroll half way down you'll find something called controllerType. That might have a few settings that would help.
Post edited April 06, 2012 by zZaRDoZz
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Sloopydrew: I would VERY MUCH appreciate it if you could do that for me! I was trying to run it the way Z told me to. I've been downloading and re-downloading it to the point of insanity. Yes, please help me out with how to run this from dosbox. Thank you!
Give me a little bit to get a document ready.

Z, sorry, I'm blind at times.
Post edited April 09, 2012 by DustyStyx
Okay, this is taking longer than I thought it would. I'll end up writing a whole tech manual if I keep this up. I hope you can glean something from it.

The short of it ...no honestly, is an 11 step process, this is why it's easier to just buy a copy from GOG.com :D

1. I highly recommend installing Blood to your user profile rather than Program Files in Windows 7 & Vista, this elevates any UAC permission errors you might encounter. Use %userProfile%\Programs\Blood
Note: %userProfile% will resolve to: C:\Users\your user name\

2. Get the materials you will need, grab the latest DOSBox (currently 0.74), and your Blood CD. If you don't have a Blood CD you can download the Blood Shareware. FilePlanet still has it as does DOS Games Archive, look for blood.zip. And SwissCheese's BMOUSE program (this is not necessary, but I recommend it)
http://www.dosbox.com/download.php?main=1
http://www.r-t-c-m.com/knowledge-base/downloads-rtcm/blood-shareware/
https://archive.org/details/BMOUSE

3. Copy the contents of your CD or extract the Blood Shareware to %UserProfile%\Programs\Blood\temp,
Extract the DOSBox installer to %UserProfile%\Programs\Blood\DOSBox (use 7-zip)
Extract BMOUSE.EXE to %UserProfile%\Programs\Blood

4. Fire up DOSBox and you should be presented with a z:\> prompt.
Type in config -writeconf dosboxBlood.conf
This will generate a dosboxBlood.conf file in %UserProfile%\Programs\Blood\DOSBox. Move this file to %UserProfile%\Programs\Blood and open it with Notepad.

5. Find the following entries in dosboxBlood.conf, and edit them as needed.
fullscreen=true
fullresolution=1366x768 (specify your native resolution here)
windowresolution=original
output=overlay
machine=vesa_nolfb
memsize=36
ipx=true (this is for Bloodbath)

At the very end, under [autoexec], add these lines
mount c: "."
mount d: “.\temp” (we will change this later)
c:
CLS
REM BMOUSE LAUNCH Blood.EXE (you will remove the REM statements later)
REM exit

Save and close notepad

6. Create a shortcut to DOSBox.exe on your desktop and right-click on it to get to the properties window.
In the Target box, add in the command switch -conf dosboxBlood.conf after DOSBox.exe, so it reads:
%userProfile%\Programs\Blood\DOSBox\DOSBox.exe -conf dosboxBlood.conf

In the Start in box, remove the DOSBox directory so it reads:
%userProfile%\Programs\Blood
OK to close

7. Launch DOSBox through the shortcut you created, this should use the launch conditions you specified in the conf file, and you should be at a C:\> prompt.

8. Install Blood by typing:
C:\>D:\Install.exe

Go through the installation steps but install to C:\ rather than C:\Blood

9. Configure Blood
After Blood has finished installing, you will need to generate a Blood.CFG file. You can do this by running Blood's configuration utility, Setup.exe

At the DOSBox command prompt: C:\>Setup
You can go through the Setup Menu options to change all of the following. (use ENTER to select a menu option, and ESC to back out)
Sound FX: Sound Blaster: use Interrupt 7, 8-bit DAM 1, 16-bit DMA 5 (these should match the settings in your dosboxBlood.conf file)
Music Card: Wave Blaster: use 0x330
Screen Setup: VESA modes (SVGA/VESA 2.0): 800x600
Controller Setup: Choose Controller Type: Keyboard & External
Controller Setup: Setup Keyboard (use your preferred movement control keys here: WASD, etc.)
Controller Setup: Setup External: BMOUSE.EXE
Hit ESC to exit out and ENTER to save when prompted.

10. Additional mouse settings:
Open %userProfile%\Programs\Blood\Blood.cfg with Notepad and edit the following entries:
MouseAimingFlipped = 1 (or 0 if you are a fighter pilot)
MouseButton0 = "Weapon_Fire"
MouseButtonClicked0 = ""
MouseButton1 = "Weapon_Special_Fire"
MouseButtonClicked1 = ""
MouseButton2 = ""
MouseButtonClicked2 = ""

If you want to go further with it and use the scroll wheel on your mouse to change weapons, I am told AutoHotKey can provide that functionality.

11. Open your dosboxBlood.conf file and remove the REM statements at the end.
If you are setting up Blood from your Blood CD, and want to have the CD music play, change the line:
mount d: “.\temp”
to
imgmount d: "blood.cue" -t iso

I apologize for this step being vague, but you will need to rip your CD audio tracks to OGG format and generate a CUEsheet based on the instructions found here:
http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/Cuesheet

If you do this, you will want to create an ISO file containing the movie folder on your CD, or copy the movies from your CD to %userProfile%\Programs\Blood\Movies and then change your Blood.ini file to read the movie files on C:\Movie rather than D:\Movie

You will place the iso, cue, and ogg files in your %userProfile%\Programs\Blood folder.

The end:
That's about it, good luck with it.

*edited for corrections
Post edited February 13, 2023 by DustyStyx
Wow! Thanks for all the info.! Very kind of you to type that all out. I am using the GOG version of the game (why I was asking about a refund earlier). I'll try your step-by-step instructions when I get home from work this afternoon. Just reading them is a bit overwhelming (by "a bit," I mean, "nearly entirely"), but I'm gonna give it a shot, so I can have fun shooting in the game. Man, I hope I can get this to work. Thanks again for all your help!
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DustyStyx: Okay, this is taking longer than I thought it would. I'll end up writing a whole tech manual if I keep this up. I hope you can glean something from it.

The short of it ...no honestly, is an 11 step process, this is why it's easier to just buy a copy from GOG.com :D

1. I highly recommend installing Blood to your user profile rather than Program Files in Windows 7 & Vista, this elevates any UAC permission errors you might encounter. Use %userProfile%\Programs\Blood
Note: %userProfile% will resolve to: C:\Users\your user name\

2. Get the materials you will need, grab the latest DOSBox (currently 0.74), and your Blood CD. If you don't have a Blood CD you can download the Blood Shareware. FilePlanet still has it as does DOS Games Archive, look for blood.zip. And SwissCheese's BMOUSE program (this is not necessary, but I recommend it)
http://www.dosbox.com/download.php?main=1
http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/file/blood/
http://swisscm.duke4.net/mine.html

3. Copy the contents of your CD or extract the Blood Shareware to %UserProfile%\Programs\Blood\temp,
Extract the DOSBox installer to %UserProfile%\Programs\Blood\DOSBox (use 7-zip)
Extract BMOUSE.EXE to %UserProfile%\Programs\Blood
And right there's the rub. Bmouse won't extract or do anything on Windows 7. Everything worked up to that point. And I was able to make all the changes to the notepad file in a later step and save them.

The other problem I had was:

In the Target box, add in the command switch -conf dosboxBlood.conf after DOSBox.exe, so it reads:
%userProfile%\Programs\Blood\DOSBox\DOSBox.exe -conf dosboxBlood.conf
You totally lost me there. There wasn't a target box. Maybe that's because bmouse won't work? I have no idea.

I feel like I am this close to figuring this thing out, but in computing, "this close" can sometimes be a billion miles away.
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Sloopydrew: Bmouse won't extract or do anything on Windows 7. Everything worked up to that point. And I was able to make all the changes to the notepad file in a later step and save them.
I just downloaded it and it extracts on my end. Perhaps you just got a bad copy. I've re-uploaded it here: http://dustystyx.deathmask.net/blood/BMOUSE06.ZIP

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Sloopydrew: You totally lost me there. There wasn't a target box. Maybe that's because bmouse won't work? I have no idea.
Not exactly. I was a little vague there. You will end up making a shortcut to DOSBox on your desktop. In effect when you run Blood in DOSBox, as far as Windows is concerned you are just running DOSBox. Once DOSBox is loaded, it will handle everything needed to run Blood.

Go back into %userProfile%\Programs\Blood\DOSBox and right-click on DOSBox.exe. Select: Send To>Desktop (create Shortcut)

On your desktop, you should now see an icon that says: DOSBox.exe - Shortcut
You will want to right-click this icon and select properties. You should see the Target box I was talking about. You can also rightclick and rename the icon "Blood" if you like.
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Sloopydrew: Bmouse won't extract or do anything on Windows 7. Everything worked up to that point. And I was able to make all the changes to the notepad file in a later step and save them.
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DustyStyx: I just downloaded it and it extracts on my end. Perhaps you just got a bad copy. I've re-uploaded it here: http://dustystyx.deathmask.net/blood/BMOUSE06.ZIP

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Sloopydrew: You totally lost me there. There wasn't a target box. Maybe that's because bmouse won't work? I have no idea.
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DustyStyx: Not exactly. I was a little vague there. You will end up making a shortcut to DOSBox on your desktop. In effect when you run Blood in DOSBox, as far as Windows is concerned you are just running DOSBox. Once DOSBox is loaded, it will handle everything needed to run Blood.

Go back into %userProfile%\Programs\Blood\DOSBox and right-click on DOSBox.exe. Select: Send To>Desktop (create Shortcut)

On your desktop, you should now see an icon that says: DOSBox.exe - Shortcut
You will want to right-click this icon and select properties. You should see the Target box I was talking about. You can also rightclick and rename the icon "Blood" if you like.
I really, really, really don't want to come off as difficult (trust me, I want this to work), but bmouse does not extract on this computer. Period. I've tried and done everything. You said it was recommended, but not necessary? I suppose you wouldn't be willing to cut down on the steps and get this going without it being bmouse enabled?

Thanks -- and I am voting your comments up every time you respond to me. It is very appreciated.
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Sloopydrew: I really, really, really don't want to come off as difficult (trust me, I want this to work), but bmouse does not extract on this computer. Period. I've tried and done everything. You said it was recommended, but not necessary? I suppose you wouldn't be willing to cut down on the steps and get this going without it being bmouse enabled?

Thanks -- and I am voting your comments up every time you respond to me. It is very appreciated.
BMOUSE isn't necessary, however, it does make playing the game with the mouse a bit better, but you can certainly play Blood the native Build mouse support.

If you launch setup.exe again to get into Blood's configuration utility, change the Controller Type to Keyboard and Mouse

In your dosboxBlood.conf file, change the line at the bottom that reads:
BMOUSE LAUNCH BLOOD.EXE
to
BLOOD.EXE

Everything else will remain the same.

When you do get Blood running, you will need to press the U key to enable mouse look, unless you changed that from default.
Post edited April 10, 2012 by DustyStyx
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Sloopydrew: I really, really, really don't want to come off as difficult (trust me, I want this to work), but bmouse does not extract on this computer. Period. I've tried and done everything. You said it was recommended, but not necessary? I suppose you wouldn't be willing to cut down on the steps and get this going without it being bmouse enabled?

Thanks -- and I am voting your comments up every time you respond to me. It is very appreciated.
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DustyStyx: BMOUSE isn't necessary, however, it does make playing the game with the mouse a bit better, but you can certainly play Blood the native Build mouse support.

If you launch setup.exe again to get into Blood's configuration utility, change the Controller Type to Keyboard and Mouse

In your dosboxBlood.conf file, change the line at the bottom that reads:
BMOUSE LAUNCH BLOOD.EXE
to
BLOOD.EXE

Everything else will remain the same.

When you do get Blood running, you will need to press the U key to enable mouse look, unless you changed that from default.
I can't do it. I appreciate your help, but it isn't working. Again, this is why I went to console gaming. I'm literally going into a panic attack over this not working. I've been at it for hours. I feel like I'm following your directions exactly, but they're just not working.

Thank you ever so much for your help. I think I'm giving up.
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Sloopydrew: I can't do it. I appreciate your help, but it isn't working. Again, this is why I went to console gaming. I'm literally going into a panic attack over this not working. I've been at it for hours. I feel like I'm following your directions exactly, but they're just not working.

Thank you ever so much for your help. I think I'm giving up.
well, that's up to you. Sorry that didn't do it for you. Keep tinkering with it.
Post edited April 10, 2012 by DustyStyx
He won't. That's why he plays console games.

I was doing stuff like this when I was 13 without any help whatsoever. What are they teaching in school's these days? It's not rocket science and plus this step by step instruction manual is amazing.
Post edited April 11, 2012 by johncrystal00
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johncrystal00: He won't. That's why he plays console games.

I was doing stuff like this when I was 13 without any help whatsoever. What are they teaching in school's these days?
Time management?

I only have a certain amount of time per week to dedicate to games. I spent more time yesterday trying to make Blood work than it would have taken me to complete the game, Blood, had it worked from the start. I gave it a lot of time, but the amount of work it takes to play some PC game is one of two reasons console gaming became dominate (the other is rampant piracy of PC games).

And yes, the step-by-step was very well-written and I very much appreciate DustyStyx for taking the time to write it and for all the help he gave.
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johncrystal00: He won't. That's why he plays console games.

I was doing stuff like this when I was 13 without any help whatsoever. What are they teaching in school's these days?
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Sloopydrew: Time management?

I only have a certain amount of time per week to dedicate to games. I spent more time yesterday trying to make Blood work than it would have taken me to complete the game, Blood, had it worked from the start. I gave it a lot of time, but the amount of work it takes to play some PC game is one of two reasons console gaming became dominate (the other is rampant piracy of PC games).

And yes, the step-by-step was very well-written and I very much appreciate DustyStyx for taking the time to write it and for all the help he gave.
It's really not that difficult. I think you're making it harder then it actually is. Blood worked fine for me right off the bat. It should only take like 5 minutes to set up the controls, sound, and video. Keep trying.