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Is anything out there written for GlovePie to modernize the control setup in Blood? There's a GP script for Dark Forces II that is perfect, but when I enable it to run in Blood, it just asks if I want to leave the game whenever I use the mouse. If not a Glovepie script, is there any mods or even just a thing I could copy and paste to change the way the controller layout is? I'd like to look up and down and left and right with the mouse, change weapons with the mouse wheel, fire with left mouse button, alt-fire with right mouse button, etc. Basically I'd like the controls to be they typical WASD type controls most games have used for the past 10 or 15 years. Thanks!

PS - I really want to run the game using a 360 controller, but I know preferring a controller over keyboard + mouse is the cause of much controversy for no reason, and I can't afford a flame suit, right now. ;-)
This question / problem has been solved by DustyStyximage
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Sloopydrew: Is anything out there written for GlovePie to modernize the control setup in Blood? There's a GP script for Dark Forces II that is perfect, but when I enable it to run in Blood, it just asks if I want to leave the game whenever I use the mouse. If not a Glovepie script, is there any mods or even just a thing I could copy and paste to change the way the controller layout is? I'd like to look up and down and left and right with the mouse, change weapons with the mouse wheel, fire with left mouse button, alt-fire with right mouse button, etc. Basically I'd like the controls to be they typical WASD type controls most games have used for the past 10 or 15 years. Thanks!

PS - I really want to run the game using a 360 controller, but I know preferring a controller over keyboard + mouse is the cause of much controversy for no reason, and I can't afford a flame suit, right now. ;-)
You can setup WASD+Mouse using Blood's own setup.exe. There is a third party mouse controller called BMouse which helps a bit with how jerky vanilla Build mouse view can be. If you like using the scroll wheel to switch weapons is reported to provide that for you, +1 to [url=http://www.gog.com/en/forum/blood_series/use_mouse_wheel_to_change_weapons_in_ouwb/post1]Kil3r for digging that up.
Post edited March 26, 2012 by DustyStyx
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Sloopydrew: Is anything out there written for GlovePie to modernize the control setup in Blood? There's a GP script for Dark Forces II that is perfect, but when I enable it to run in Blood, it just asks if I want to leave the game whenever I use the mouse. If not a Glovepie script, is there any mods or even just a thing I could copy and paste to change the way the controller layout is? I'd like to look up and down and left and right with the mouse, change weapons with the mouse wheel, fire with left mouse button, alt-fire with right mouse button, etc. Basically I'd like the controls to be they typical WASD type controls most games have used for the past 10 or 15 years. Thanks!

PS - I really want to run the game using a 360 controller, but I know preferring a controller over keyboard + mouse is the cause of much controversy for no reason, and I can't afford a flame suit, right now. ;-)
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DustyStyx: You can setup WASD+Mouse using Blood's own setup.exe. There is a third party mouse controller called BMouse which helps a bit with how jerky vanilla Build mouse view can be. If you like using the scroll wheel to switch weapons is reported to provide that for you, +1 to [url=http://www.gog.com/en/forum/blood_series/use_mouse_wheel_to_change_weapons_in_ouwb/post1]Kil3r for digging that up.
Thanks for that. I've been fiddling around with it, but I'm really bad at this sort of thing.

I realize Glovepie was created to bring wiimotes to PC, or whatever, but it's an EXCELLENT little free program that really helps with old PC gaming. I'd love it if someone more capable than I could look into it and write a script for Blood. Anyone with a modicum of skill with this sort of thing could probably have it done in under 5 minutes. For example, the entire script that literally saved Jedi Knight goes as follows:

PageDown = delta(Mouse.DirectInputY) < -1
PageUp = delta(Mouse.DirectInputY) > 1
Key.R = Mouse.RightButton // Alternate Fire
Key.F9 = Mouse.WheelUp // Cycle weapons with scrollwheel
Key.F10 = Mouse.WheelDown

I don't really understand why that made the game control awesome, but I bet a lot of you reading it can take one look and figure out exactly how the script works.
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Sloopydrew: Thanks for that. I've been fiddling around with it, but I'm really bad at this sort of thing.

I realize Glovepie was created to bring wiimotes to PC, or whatever, but it's an EXCELLENT little free program that really helps with old PC gaming. I'd love it if someone more capable than I could look into it and write a script for Blood. Anyone with a modicum of skill with this sort of thing could probably have it done in under 5 minutes. For example, the entire script that literally saved Jedi Knight goes as follows:

PageDown = delta(Mouse.DirectInputY) < -1
PageUp = delta(Mouse.DirectInputY) > 1
Key.R = Mouse.RightButton // Alternate Fire
Key.F9 = Mouse.WheelUp // Cycle weapons with scrollwheel
Key.F10 = Mouse.WheelDown

I don't really understand why that made the game control awesome, but I bet a lot of you reading it can take one look and figure out exactly how the script works.
It looks like it is a program that is interpreting your controller input and then reassigning it as input from an additional keyboard. If you right-click "Computer" off your start menu, and then go into "Manage", under System Tools>Device Manager, you will probably see two entries under "Keyboards" one might even say GlovePie.

It is interesting that it will just crash on you when you try to use it with Blood though, DOSBox might have some compatibility issues with it. I'd have to play around with it to speculate further.
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Sloopydrew: Thanks for that. I've been fiddling around with it, but I'm really bad at this sort of thing.

I realize Glovepie was created to bring wiimotes to PC, or whatever, but it's an EXCELLENT little free program that really helps with old PC gaming. I'd love it if someone more capable than I could look into it and write a script for Blood. Anyone with a modicum of skill with this sort of thing could probably have it done in under 5 minutes. For example, the entire script that literally saved Jedi Knight goes as follows:

PageDown = delta(Mouse.DirectInputY) < -1
PageUp = delta(Mouse.DirectInputY) > 1
Key.R = Mouse.RightButton // Alternate Fire
Key.F9 = Mouse.WheelUp // Cycle weapons with scrollwheel
Key.F10 = Mouse.WheelDown

I don't really understand why that made the game control awesome, but I bet a lot of you reading it can take one look and figure out exactly how the script works.
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DustyStyx: It looks like it is a program that is interpreting your controller input and then reassigning it as input from an additional keyboard. If you right-click "Computer" off your start menu, and then go into "Manage", under System Tools>Device Manager, you will probably see two entries under "Keyboards" one might even say GlovePie.

It is interesting that it will just crash on you when you try to use it with Blood though, DOSBox might have some compatibility issues with it. I'd have to play around with it to speculate further.
I'm actually using it with DOSBox. I think it's doing that in Blood because of Blood being set up in a different way. I use different Glovepie scripts to alter the control setup in a lot of my games. But no two games have used the same script. Blood is the first game where I haven't been able to find a script already made. And I honestly can't figure out how to make the script myself. Trust me, I've tried (for hours and hours I've tried).
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Sloopydrew: I'm actually using it with DOSBox. I think it's doing that in Blood because of Blood being set up in a different way. I use different Glovepie scripts to alter the control setup in a lot of my games. But no two games have used the same script. Blood is the first game where I haven't been able to find a script already made. And I honestly can't figure out how to make the script myself. Trust me, I've tried (for hours and hours I've tried).
That is good then. Can you find a script for DukeNukem or Shadow Warrior? They were also on Build. You might be able to modify them for Blood.
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Sloopydrew: I'm actually using it with DOSBox. I think it's doing that in Blood because of Blood being set up in a different way. I use different Glovepie scripts to alter the control setup in a lot of my games. But no two games have used the same script. Blood is the first game where I haven't been able to find a script already made. And I honestly can't figure out how to make the script myself. Trust me, I've tried (for hours and hours I've tried).
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DustyStyx: That is good then. Can you find a script for DukeNukem or Shadow Warrior? They were also on Build. You might be able to modify them for Blood.
After you brought that up, I looked for a Duke script (I don't own Shadow Warrior). None are available. I hadn't looked previously, because there were already plenty of other solutions out with all the mods that are available for Duke. Blood is the first game where I have found no pre-made solution. I absolutely love this game, but with its control setup, I'm stuck playing it on easy and still being frustrated by the controls. I've done as much "in-game" manual tweaking as I can, but moving with "W and S" and strafing with "A and D" is pretty much the extent of what I've altered, movement wise.

I'm just going to leave this here and hope someone who likes doing this sort of thing writes a really good Glovepie script. I have the same request in at the Glovepie forum and a couple of people are interested, but they don't have the game. I'm tempted to buy them a copy and gift it to them (the problem is they're all obsessed with making it compatible with the Wiimote or Move Control or the Kinect ... and that's not at all what I'm looking for).
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Sloopydrew: I'm tempted to buy them a copy and gift it to them (the problem is they're all obsessed with making it compatible with the Wiimote or Move Control or the Kinect ... and that's not at all what I'm looking for).
... I don't see that as a problem, I'd love to see Sinfest's Wii Pitchfork&trade;&reg; realized with Blood.
Post edited March 29, 2012 by DustyStyx
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Sloopydrew: I'm tempted to buy them a copy and gift it to them (the problem is they're all obsessed with making it compatible with the Wiimote or Move Control or the Kinect ... and that's not at all what I'm looking for).
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DustyStyx: ... I don't see that as a problem, I'd love to see Sinfest's Wii Pitchfork&trade;&reg; realized with Blood.
Come to think of it, that WOULD be pretty awesome!
I'm not understanding why you can't set up Blood using the setup program that came with it to have the same controls as any modern FPS. I can use the wasd stuff and look around and shoot with the mouse with no problem. This GP stuff seems pointless for what you are looking for.
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johncrystal00: I'm not understanding why you can't set up Blood using the setup program that came with it to have the same controls as any modern FPS. I can use the wasd stuff and look around and shoot with the mouse with no problem. This GP stuff seems pointless for what you are looking for.
My copy of Blood does NOT give me options for the mouse controls. I've read posts claiming it did, and I believe it does for people, but I can do a screengrab, if need be, to show that there is no option to change mouse controls in the game. At least the version I have, which is the one I bought from GOG. And a GP script would be easier, anyway. :-)
Sloppydrew said:
I'd like to look up and down and left and right with the mouse, change weapons with the mouse wheel, fire with left mouse button, alt-fire with right mouse button, etc. Basically I'd like the controls to be they typical WASD type controls most games have used for the past 10 or 15 years. Thanks!
There is no way to access the controller setup from within game. There are a few rudementary choices you can make from the control setup menu but these are obviously not what you need.

If you have windows xp...

Go to your blood folder and find a program called setup or setmain. These are applications that give you the detailed menu system that lets you configure things. open it, you may get a messege asking you to close or ignore. Choose ignore. Next you'll see a little blue screen called main menu. Choose controller setup from the list (your mouse
probably won't work. Use the keyboard arrow and enter keys). On the next blue screen under Controls menu choose setup mouse. Hit enter on the item you wish to change and you'll get a list of things to choose for that button. You can do the same for the keyboard. Choose the options you prefer.

If you have windows vista or above, I'm not sure what to tell you. You might have to run setup with dosbox. There is a file called blood.cfg that you can try, although I'm not sure if it will give you what you want. If you scroll half way down you'll find something called controllerType. That might have a few settings that would help.
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zZaRDoZz: Sloppydrew said:
I'd like to look up and down and left and right with the mouse, change weapons with the mouse wheel, fire with left mouse button, alt-fire with right mouse button, etc. Basically I'd like the controls to be they typical WASD type controls most games have used for the past 10 or 15 years. Thanks!
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zZaRDoZz: There is no way to access the controller setup from within game. There are a few rudementary choices you can make from the control setup menu but these are obviously not what you need.

If you have windows xp...

Go to your blood folder and find a program called setup or setmain. These are applications that give you the detailed menu system that lets you configure things. open it, you may get a messege asking you to close or ignore. Choose ignore. Next you'll see a little blue screen called main menu. Choose controller setup from the list (your mouse
probably won't work. Use the keyboard arrow and enter keys). On the next blue screen under Controls menu choose setup mouse. Hit enter on the item you wish to change and you'll get a list of things to choose for that button. You can do the same for the keyboard. Choose the options you prefer.

If you have windows vista or above, I'm not sure what to tell you. You might have to run setup with dosbox. There is a file called blood.cfg that you can try, although I'm not sure if it will give you what you want. If you scroll half way down you'll find something called controllerType. That might have a few settings that would help.
It's like you're speaking a foreign language. I'm very much a "plug and play" type guy. That's probably why I left PC gaming for nearly 15 years and gamed only on consoles. Now I'm back to PC gaming (both old games and new), but it's giving me the same old headaches. I don't get this stuff. My mind doesn't work this way. I was told Good Old Games was perfect for people like me, as they did all the "Behind the Scenes" work and made the games shiny and new for dorks such as myself. But it's not true.

I thank you very much for the help you tried to give (and I mean that 100%), but I'm totally lost. If you try to help me again, pretend you're explaining algebra to a 2-year-old. I really am that dense when it comes to the "behind the scenes" part of gaming.
Post edited April 05, 2012 by Sloopydrew
Paraphrasing Sloppydrew:

I am completely unfamiliar with windows...


I'm afraid we have to assume at least a minimal knowledge of windows (95,98,xp,vista,7 etc.) in order to help you. Without that basic knowledge, a computer with windows installed is nearly pointless. At this stage some people may think you're putting us on. If that's not the case, read on.

This is the best I can do.

Go to the start button in the lower left corner. Find a selection called My computer. Open that and find your main hard drive, usually labeled (C:) Open that and find a folder labeled Program files, once opened look for the GoG.com folder, there you should see a folder labelled One Unit Whole Blood
From there find a program called setup or setmain. These are applications that give you the detailed menu system that lets you configure things. open it, you may get a messege asking you to close or ignore. Choose ignore. Next you'll see a little blue screen called main menu. Choose controller setup from the list (your mouse probably won't work. Use the keyboard arrow and enter keys).

On the next blue screen under Controls menu choose setup mouse. Hit enter on the item you wish to change and you'll get a list of things to choose for that button. You can do the same for the keyboard. Choose the options you prefer.

I know that looks to be an intimidating number of steps and for a new person it is. Once you've memorized those first 4 steps however:

start button > My computer > (C:) >Program files,

-You'll find that this opens up an entire new world and makes computer gaming amazingly simple and enjoyable. Once again, the whole formula for one unit whole blood is:

start button > My computer > (C:) > Program files > GoG.com > One Unit Whole Blood
Post edited April 05, 2012 by zZaRDoZz
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zZaRDoZz: Paraphrasing Sloppydrew:

I am completely unfamiliar with windows...


I'm afraid we have to assume at least a minimal knowledge of windows (95,98,xp,vista,7 etc.) in order to help you. Without that basic knowledge, a computer with windows installed is nearly pointless. At this stage some people may think you're putting us on. If that's not the case, read on.

This is the best I can do.

Go to the start button in the lower left corner. Find a selection called My computer. Open that and find your main hard drive, usually labeled (C:) Open that and find a folder labeled Program files, once opened look for the GoG.com folder, there you should see a folder labelled One Unit Whole Blood
From there find a program called setup or setmain. These are applications that give you the detailed menu system that lets you configure things. open it, you may get a messege asking you to close or ignore. Choose ignore. Next you'll see a little blue screen called main menu. Choose controller setup from the list (your mouse probably won't work. Use the keyboard arrow and enter keys).

On the next blue screen under Controls menu choose setup mouse. Hit enter on the item you wish to change and you'll get a list of things to choose for that button. You can do the same for the keyboard. Choose the options you prefer.

I know that looks to be an intimidating number of steps and for a new person it is. Once you've memorized those first 4 steps however:

start button > My computer > (C:) >Program files,

-You'll find that this opens up an entire new world and makes computer gaming amazingly simple and enjoyable. Once again, the whole formula for one unit whole blood is:

start button > My computer > (C:) > Program files > GoG.com > One Unit Whole Blood
I understand Windows, entirely, and knew all the steps up to changing things on the blue screen, part. That step is not working for me. I get a message reading, "The version of this file is not compatible with the version of Windows you're running." That message is there in both versions of Windows 7. It's hard to adjust options when you can't open the folders (I have setup and setmain) you need to open to change things.

I'm very familiar with Windows. I actually teach it. Regardless, thanks again, for your help.
Post edited April 05, 2012 by Sloopydrew