hello gog guys :)

first-a big,big thank you for releasing battle isle platinum,incubation+wilderness missions are my favorite classics,so I really,really enjoy this release.

did a quick check of the build (incubation+wilderness missions),and I have noticed that the wilderness missions addon is not patched at all (gog version=1.50,the latest version is 1.52).that means a couple of (original) bugs are still present,and at least one of them is quite a nasty one.here goes:

-Major Rutherford's animation is broken-when attacking with a bayonet the game will display an error message and the animation will not play (critical-see the picture).
-light plasma gun overheats when the bayonet is used (minor).
-if your unit is in panic, you can still use explosion packs (small).
-absorber armor points stack (small).

version 1.52 (and 1.51) fixes:

-Major Rutherford's animation has been corrected. She can now use the standard assault rifle at hand to hand combat.
-light plasma gun doesn't overheat at hand to hand.
-if your unit is in panic, you can not use explosion packs.
-getting a second absorber armor will only "reload" your first one.

I can provide gamesaves,the original patches,even files from my original version(s) of wilderness missions cd(s) if necessary-this game simply deserves it.


btw,the installer has a small bug as well-it will not let you proceed with installation if you do not have dosbox installed,even if you don't want it /don't need it (I have only installed incubation+wilderness missions,and those are windows games).had to create a fake dosbox exe to get around this.


thanks again ;)


edit: hmmm,maybe I should submit this directly via the tech issue reporting system..oh vell,I guess I'll leave it here for 48hrs and see what happens.

I myself haven't had a chance to test TWM (enjoying the first incubation too much!) but it sounds like he knows what he's talking about. Perhaps a revised version of the installer could include the patch?

Very, very good work. Thanks for the information!

..there is a catch to this issue-basically,the bluebyte guys screwed up when putting together the platinum edition,and used version 1.50 build of wilderness missions,and did some changes to the executable.and since the original patches use RTP,they will not recognize the exe,and the game cannot be patched at all as a result.

I have fixed this (a couple of years ago,when I paid a horrible,horrible price for a near mint copy of battle isle platinum) by using the unpatched exe from the standalone version of wilderness missions addon (again,paying a horrible,horrible price on ebay),and that has allowed me to patch the game,and finally play with a fully fixed build.actually,I can do the same thing with the gog version,but the game will lose the ability to play music without the cd (quite logical,as the gog workaround for sound includes modification to the exe which are lost by doing this).

so basically (if I'm allowed to voice my opinion on this),gog guys will either have to apply the (1.51 and 1.52) patches manually to the gog exe (that means extracting the RTP files),or apply the gog fixes to the original fully patched 1.52 executable (from the standalone version of the addon-I can provide this,if they don't have it at hand).both ways should work fine.


and yes,I'm a very,very dedicated fan.

cheers :)

more bad news-the entire game is bugged,not just the addon. to make it short,basically,none of the original patches were applied to the platinum build (for both Incubation and Wilderness missions),that means all bugs mentioned and [url=http://www.bluebyte.net/eng/products/incubation-mission/p_updates.htm]here are still there.

this is beyond a simple fix-I hope I can get a really,really patient gog support guy on this,as resolving this issue would probably require to replace a lot of datafiles (maps,models,animations etc,actually,it would probably be easier to just replace all platinum build datafiles with fully patched classic ones,to make sure no outdated unpatched files are left).

Is it possible to apply these patches manually to the gog build?

as long as gog updates their incubation.exe to version 1.52, taking care of the bugs in maps and cutscenes is a trivial matter-all you have to do is copy over the correct files. I can provide them if necessary, but I'm waiting for a response from the gog support team first.

great :)

been talking to Firek over email,and gave him the original 1.52 exe,as long as you guys manage to incorporate the gog nocd and sound fixes to it (and include the datafiles I have linked),the hotfix should be all done and ready.


full analysis of the issue (in case you are interested just what kind of files have I dumped on you):

basically,the platinum edition of incubation is just the release version of incubation (1.0) with the release version of wilderness missions (1.50) shipped together (for all the folks that haven't seen the boxed version of platinum-incubation and wilderness missions are on separate cds,they are not compiled together,so you are installing them exactly like you would install the original,non-platinum releases,incubation first,wilderness missions second).for some weird reason,the addon is not doing any version check on the original game (strange,considering that the patches DO check whether the version is correct,and they will refuse to install if they do not see what they want),and will install on top of it,ignoring whether it is patched or not.this means the exe IS overwritten (and exe related bugs of the original incubation ARE fixed,for example,the infinite skillpoint bug),however,the datafiles of the original game remain untouched,as wilderness missions addon does not contain any (updated) datafiles for the original game.that means all fixes related to the datafiles of the original game (for example,a fix to the final cutscene) are lost (or rather,not applied).on top of this,the 1.50 exe from the platinum addon cd has been slightly modified for some reason-maybe some last minute typo fix or something like that,anyway,it changes the checksum,and as a result,it is impossible to apply the patches for wilderness missions.the result-a completely broken build.as I said,I have no idea how could bluebyte screw up so massively.

the only way how to get a fully working build is to: install the original game version 1.0,apply the 1.02 patch,apply the 1.03 patch,install wilderness missions version 1.50 (the one that CAN be patched),apply the 1.51 patch,apply the 1.52 patch,and voila,it works.the datafiles I have made available are from such a fully patched build.

that means,as long as you have the proper datafiles,and gog fixed exe version 1.52 that will load the music from the mp3s (and run without cd),you should be able to get the ultimate version of incubation just by dropping the files to the (gog) incubation folder,overwriting everything.

Firek said it could take some time,but as long as it is done at the end,I don't really care-I have waited for this release for more than ten years,so waiting for another couple of weeks is nothing.


cheers,and thanks ;)

Wow great work voodoo

It's good that the gog guys finally spotted you. Here's hoping the build to end all builds comes out soon

I'm bumping this topic,as I haven't heard anything about a new build for a long time..

Might as well file another ticket because this issue will never be fixed... ever.

maybe I'll do that..

ticket resubmitted.