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Posted October 08, 2018
Imo GOG is about getting old games at discount prices, not buying expensive new versions of them. A few years back, I bought the original version of Baldur for like 5 bucks and that meant I could get a discount on the rest of the series. Now, it's no longer true because the original games are gone and the only available are the enhanced versions of them that cost 5 times as much. Today, I wanted to buy BG 2, but I felt ripped off when I saw the price (and of course no discount even though I bought the first game) and I just ended up pirating it. I'm really disappointed with the direction that GOG took, it just feels like a Steam clone. I know it's probably Beamdog and their cash-grabbing attitude's fault, but still I'm disappointed. Bring back the original (and great) versions of BG please !
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Posted October 08, 2018
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Petouche: Imo GOG is about getting old games at discount prices, not buying expensive new versions of them. A few years back, I bought the original version of Baldur for like 5 bucks and that meant I could get a discount on the rest of the series. Now, it's no longer true because the original games are gone and the only available are the enhanced versions of them that cost 5 times as much. Today, I wanted to buy BG 2, but I felt ripped off when I saw the price (and of course no discount even though I bought the first game) and I just ended up pirating it. I'm really disappointed with the direction that GOG took, it just feels like a Steam clone. I know it's probably Beamdog and their cash-grabbing attitude's fault, but still I'm disappointed. Bring back the original (and great) versions of BG please !
Did you know that in the past few days there was a sale on which you could buy the Enhanced Editions very cheap? Price don't justify piracy. Besides you still get the original versions for free if you buy the new ones. As for the second part, GOG is still DRM free. GOG Galaxy is optional. Steam client is obligatory.
Post edited October 08, 2018 by Sarafan
Posted October 08, 2018
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Petouche: I'm really disappointed with the direction that GOG took, it just feels like a Steam clone. I know it's probably Beamdog and their cash-grabbing attitude's fault, but still I'm disappointed. Bring back the original (and great) versions of BG please !
You know it's Beamdog but still blame GOG? Twisted logic. FYI, you can sqarely blame Beamdog for the removal of the originals. Where did they go? Bundled in with... wait for it... the Beamdog versions! That's right. Who to blame? It's obvious.
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Sarafan: Besides you still get the original versions for free if you buy the new ones.
Oh, please! This old bullshit mantra. Give it a rest!
Post edited October 08, 2018 by Hickory
Posted October 08, 2018
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Sarafan: Besides you still get the original versions for free if you buy the new ones.
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Hickory: Oh, please! This old bullshit mantra. Give it a rest!
I don’t understand what’s your problem. For the price equal to the originals (on sale) you get the Enhanced Edition and the originals. What’s the difference? I’m not a big fan of Beamdog’s refreshed versions, but there’s nothing wrong with the deal when it’s on sale. The standard prices could be lower though.
Posted October 08, 2018
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Hickory: Oh, please! This old bullshit mantra. Give it a rest!
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Sarafan: I don’t understand what’s your problem. For the price equal to the originals (on sale) you get the Enhanced Edition and the originals. What’s the difference? I’m not a big fan of Beamdog’s refreshed versions, but there’s nothing wrong with the deal when it’s on sale. The standard prices could be lower though.
No, you clearly don't get it. The originals were taken away from being purchased on their own merit. The issue here is choice. They were available on GOG *and* elsewhere and were best sellers. Beamdog comes along with their inferior product and removes the competition by EXCLUSIVELY including them in their own: you can't buy them ANYWHERE. You HAVE to buy Beamdog's product to get Interplay's product. Don't you get it yet? Bioware/Interplay created a product that you can now only get by purchasing a Beamdog product. Fracking hell...
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Hickory: The originals were taken away from being purchased on their own merit. The issue here is choice. They were available on GOG *and* elsewhere and were best sellers. Beamdog comes along with their inferior product and removes the competition by EXCLUSIVELY including them in their own: you can't buy them ANYWHERE.
Ok thanks, that has made things much clearer: it was a dick move by Beamdog. I guess I'll just have to enjoy the pirated (and nowhere to be found) original version of BG2. It's a shame really because I would have gladly spent 10 bucks for such a good game. I would even spend more than that, but I don't want to reward the shitty attitude of Beamdog (Seriously 23 bucks for both soundtracks only?? Last time I checked GOG, you could get both games and soundtracks for half that price).
Posted October 08, 2018
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Hickory: No, you clearly don't get it. The originals were taken away from being purchased on their own merit. The issue here is choice. They were available on GOG *and* elsewhere and were best sellers. Beamdog comes along with their inferior product and removes the competition by EXCLUSIVELY including them in their own: you can't buy them ANYWHERE. You HAVE to buy Beamdog's product to get Interplay's product. Don't you get it yet? Bioware/Interplay created a product that you can now only get by purchasing a Beamdog product. Fracking hell...
Interplay went bankrupt a long time ago. Beamdog bought the rights to publish and remaster BG1 and BG2. For the ordinary customer there's no difference. He gets even more than he wants. I understand that not everyone likes the idea of supporting Beamdog with his money, but that's a minority. Besides even if the classic versions were still in sale, the money would probably go to Beamdog anyway. Currently they have the rights for BG whether people like it or not.
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Sarafan: whether people like it or not.
Right. Choice. Taken away. You don't get it. Enough said.
Posted October 08, 2018
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Petouche: Ok thanks, that has made things much clearer: it was a dick move by Beamdog. I guess I'll just have to enjoy the pirated (and nowhere to be found) original version of BG2. It's a shame really because I would have gladly spent 10 bucks for such a good game. I would even spend more than that, but I don't want to reward the shitty attitude of Beamdog (Seriously 23 bucks for both soundtracks only?? Last time I checked GOG, you could get both games and soundtracks for half that price).
"I don't like a company, so I'll steal their product" - that's your attitude here. Buying Enhanced Editions here will get you the originals with all additional content that was previously available. That includes soundtracks as well. But I assume it's better for you to justify a theft.
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Hickory: Right. Choice. Taken away. You don't get it. Enough said.
Yes, I don't get it. Buy the Enhanced Editions with originals and the money goes to Beamdog. Buy the originals without Enhanced Editions and the money goes to Beamdog. Hard to understand the difference. Probably the only one is the developer label on the product page.
Post edited October 08, 2018 by Sarafan
Posted October 09, 2018
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Sarafan: Buy the originals without Enhanced Editions and the money goes to Beamdog.
Genuinely curious: Do you have a source for that?
Posted October 09, 2018
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Sarafan: Buy the originals without Enhanced Editions and the money goes to Beamdog.
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Bookwyrm627: Genuinely curious: Do you have a source for that?
It's still possible to buy the original boxed/disc versions on Amazon from third-party resellers and liquidators (still new and unopened). If you buy one of those copies, I can pretty much guarantee none of that money will be going to Beamdog.

But if we're talking about buying direct from a first party retailer like GOG or Steam... it is not possible to buy just the original editions, so whether or not Beamdog would get any money from such a product is a moot question.
Posted October 09, 2018
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Bookwyrm627: Genuinely curious: Do you have a source for that?
Beamdog bought the rights to publish BG series probably from Atari or Hasbro (doesn’t really matter). That means they get a certain percentage from every sold copy. Considering the fact that they could withdraw the originals from sale and bundle them with the Enhanced Editions on GOG, they probably have full publisher rights. In this case we can presume that they would get a percentage from the original versions as well. So it’s a presumption, but I believe it’s accurate.

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Ryan333: It's still possible to buy the original boxed/disc versions on Amazon from third-party resellers and liquidators (still new and unopened). If you buy one of those copies, I can pretty much guarantee none of that money will be going to Beamdog.
Exactly. In this case nothing goes to Beamdog.
Post edited October 09, 2018 by Sarafan
Posted October 09, 2018
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Sarafan: ,,,
Beamdog were given the rights to publish a remake (their remake) of Baldurs Gate, *unaltered* in content. They were not given the rights to republish or garner monies from the originals. They were taken off the shelves by Beamdog convincing GOG and/or WotC that it would be a good idea.
Posted October 10, 2018
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Hickory: Beamdog were given the rights to publish a remake (their remake) of Baldurs Gate, *unaltered* in content. They were not given the rights to republish or garner monies from the originals. They were taken off the shelves by Beamdog convincing GOG and/or WotC that it would be a good idea.
If it's true then the money from originals wouldn't go to Beamdog. But that's a presumption as well, right? We don't know the details.
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Hickory: Beamdog were given the rights to publish a remake (their remake) of Baldurs Gate, *unaltered* in content. They were not given the rights to republish or garner monies from the originals. They were taken off the shelves by Beamdog convincing GOG and/or WotC that it would be a good idea.
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Sarafan: If it's true then the money from originals wouldn't go to Beamdog. But that's a presumption as well, right? We don't know the details.
It's the truth. But you won't believe it. You don't want to.
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