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Posted April 08, 2016
it seems to me that the BG series is losing what made it a classic CRPG under the helm of Beamdog. Why do I say that? I've tried hard to like the new content BD has put in including the new expansion but it just seems to detract more than to add to the BG series. Most of the new content just doesn't feel right, To me the new expansion is one big mess. It's buggy and to me it just left a lot to be desired. Then there's thing with BD feeling they must represent every "community" on the planet. It's like the BG series has become an experiment in political correctness. I realize many will not agree but these are my personal observations.
Posted April 08, 2016
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Are the enhanced editions infested with social justice? Or is it just the new expansion that is?
Posted April 08, 2016
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ShadowWalker56: it seems to me that the BG series is losing what made it a classic CRPG under the helm of Beamdog. Why do I say that? I've tried hard to like the new content BD has put in including the new expansion but it just seems to detract more than to add to the BG series. Most of the new content just doesn't feel right, To me the new expansion is one big mess. It's buggy and to me it just left a lot to be desired. Then there's thing with BD feeling they must represent every "community" on the planet. It's like the BG series has become an experiment in political correctness. I realize many will not agree but these are my personal observations.
Because the writing isn't even close to the quality of the originals and they made it entirely linear. I watched a Let's Play video of the DLC and it was just painful to hear the middle school level writing.
Posted April 08, 2016
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ShadowWalker56: it seems to me that the BG series is losing what made it a classic CRPG under the helm of Beamdog. Why do I say that? I've tried hard to like the new content BD has put in including the new expansion but it just seems to detract more than to add to the BG series. Most of the new content just doesn't feel right, To me the new expansion is one big mess. It's buggy and to me it just left a lot to be desired. Then there's thing with BD feeling they must represent every "community" on the planet. It's like the BG series has become an experiment in political correctness. I realize many will not agree but these are my personal observations.
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Totenglocke: Because the writing isn't even close to the quality of the originals and they made it entirely linear. I watched a Let's Play video of the DLC and it was just painful to hear the middle school level writing.
I agree. Everything BD added was just bad. It didn't feel right. The only way I can put it is it just didn't seem to belong. Maybe it's because I'm old or that when I originally played the BG series it was fun. Now it just seems like a chore to play.
Posted April 08, 2016
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ShadowWalker56: it seems to me that the BG series is losing what made it a classic CRPG under the helm of Beamdog. Why do I say that? I've tried hard to like the new content BD has put in including the new expansion but it just seems to detract more than to add to the BG series. Most of the new content just doesn't feel right, To me the new expansion is one big mess. It's buggy and to me it just left a lot to be desired. Then there's thing with BD feeling they must represent every "community" on the planet. It's like the BG series has become an experiment in political correctness. I realize many will not agree but these are my personal observations.
I have only played BG1:EE and the new content was painful... Coupled with the fact that you could not skip, made it really infuriating.

Not planning to play SoD.
Posted April 08, 2016
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ShadowWalker56: it seems to me that the BG series is losing what made it a classic CRPG under the helm of Beamdog. Why do I say that? I've tried hard to like the new content BD has put in including the new expansion but it just seems to detract more than to add to the BG series. Most of the new content just doesn't feel right, To me the new expansion is one big mess. It's buggy and to me it just left a lot to be desired. Then there's thing with BD feeling they must represent every "community" on the planet. It's like the BG series has become an experiment in political correctness. I realize many will not agree but these are my personal observations.
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Lebesgue: I have only played BG1:EE and the new content was painful... Coupled with the fact that you could not skip, made it really infuriating.

Not planning to play SoD.
Uh. You could skip most of the new content in the Enhanced Edition. Only new content is NPCs. If they don't join you, there's no new content beyond the encounters where you meet two of them (the rest you have to initiate the conversation).

Those are two combat encounters. One in Beregost and one in a encounter on the way to Nashkel mines (which you can just exit out of if you know it's there).
Posted April 08, 2016
I played through BG:EE up to chapter 5 and gave up on it. They messed up many aspects of the game that I enjoy: character animations (I find BG2 ugly), cutscenes, UI, balance (Dorn is so overpowered it's not even funny). The new storylines were sticking out too much. I was really trying to like it, but it's not worth the effort and money in my opinion.

Now they failed even more with the new expansion, what I don't particularly like is their attitude: the infamous "too bad", asking for positive reviews and pushing forward ideological stuff. All that wouldn't be as bad, if the quality of the expansion would defend itself, but it doesn't, unfortunately.

So, thank you Beamdog, but no. I'd rather play the original and enjoy it as much as I do so far. Don't try to fix what's not broken. Sadly, soon the originals and EEs will be bundled together on GoG.
Posted April 08, 2016
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Tuthrick: I played through BG:EE up to chapter 5 and gave up on it. They messed up many aspects of the game that I enjoy: character animations (I find BG2 ugly), cutscenes, UI, balance (Dorn is so overpowered it's not even funny). The new storylines were sticking out too much. I was really trying to like it, but it's not worth the effort and money in my opinion.

Now they failed even more with the new expansion, what I don't particularly like is their attitude: the infamous "too bad", asking for positive reviews and pushing forward ideological stuff. All that wouldn't be as bad, if the quality of the expansion would defend itself, but it doesn't, unfortunately.

So, thank you Beamdog, but no. I'd rather play the original and enjoy it as much as I do so far. Don't try to fix what's not broken. Sadly, soon the originals and EEs will be bundled together on GoG.
The only conclusion I can come to is that BD never had the original fan base in mind when they decided to make the EE versions. They were only interested in new fans who would be more open to any changes they made.
Posted April 08, 2016
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Lebesgue: I have only played BG1:EE and the new content was painful... Coupled with the fact that you could not skip, made it really infuriating.

Not planning to play SoD.
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ZellSF: Uh. You could skip most of the new content in the Enhanced Edition. Only new content is NPCs. If they don't join you, there's no new content beyond the encounters where you meet two of them (the rest you have to initiate the conversation).

Those are two combat encounters. One in Beregost and one in a encounter on the way to Nashkel mines (which you can just exit out of if you know it's there).
Sure, that's already a little bit irritating. Then you add to it their new cutscenes which are terrible (and why the hell they decided to substitute the original with that crap).

There were other things that annoyed me though I forgot most of them since it has been a long while since I played it.
Posted April 08, 2016
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ZellSF: Uh. You could skip most of the new content in the Enhanced Edition. Only new content is NPCs. If they don't join you, there's no new content beyond the encounters where you meet two of them (the rest you have to initiate the conversation).

Those are two combat encounters. One in Beregost and one in a encounter on the way to Nashkel mines (which you can just exit out of if you know it's there).
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Lebesgue: Sure, that's already a little bit irritating. Then you add to it their new cutscenes which are terrible (and why the hell they decided to substitute the original with that crap).

There were other things that annoyed me though I forgot most of them since it has been a long while since I played it.
I actually had to think about what you were referring, because I just think of them as "those things I want to skip but can't".

That said, there's a mod for that. Not really a good reason to skip the features the enhanced edition offers imo.
Posted April 08, 2016
I'm not a fan of the new movies, I think they look cheap, but I've never liked the old ones as well.
Posted April 09, 2016
The new content looks like it was written by a 13 year old kid. The voice acting is terrible too. Close your eyes and listen to any of the original voice acting. You imagine someone who's a determined druid, an innocent natured fighter, or a free spirited kid who's antics will one day get her into trouble.

Now...close your eyes and listen to Neera's voice acting. I really don't know how anyone else can *not* picture a girl standing in a studio reading from a script.
Posted April 09, 2016
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jsidhu762: The new content looks like it was written by a 13 year old kid. The voice acting is terrible too. Close your eyes and listen to any of the original voice acting. You imagine someone who's a determined druid, an innocent natured fighter, or a free spirited kid who's antics will one day get her into trouble.

Now...close your eyes and listen to Neera's voice acting. I really don't know how anyone else can *not* picture a girl standing in a studio reading from a script.
I do agree with your statement. None seems to come out naturally. It's obvious the voice is coming from an actor/actress. As far as the writing goes my young nieces and nephews could do a better job.
Post edited April 09, 2016 by ShadowWalker56
Posted April 09, 2016
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ShadowWalker56: As far as the writing goes my young nieces and nephews could do a better job.
Nobody should be under any illusion that Beamdog have good writers. They have terrible writers who think they are good writers, and that has stood out from the beginning.
Posted April 09, 2016
BG:EEs are indeed a disappointment, and I will avoid Siege of Dragonspear. The graphics and the UI are terrible compared to the original. If you zoom in the landscape becomes blurry, the UI with tabs and lists are ugly as hell (the world map and spellbooks now looks awful), and they introduced some kind of filter in the 2.0 patch that makes the characters even blurrier. Also they changed the rules constantly, to make the game easier and easier (probably for their new fanbase). You level up companions manually from level 1 when you pick them up, huge ammo stacks, "story mode" (basically invulnerable characters, who would play something like that in a game with 90% combat?) the world map annotations are silly, and other useless changes.

Vanilla BG 1 is way better than the "enhanced" version.
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