Planescape Torment >----------- Baldurs Gate II > Baldurs Gate > Icewind Dale > Icewind Dale II.

I've owned the Icewind Dale series on disc for a while. I prefer the second to the first, but I find the focus on combat tiring, especially in an engine that had lackluster combat to begin with.


Haven't finished BG/BG2 yet, I had to reformat but I'm reinstalling tonight. So far they're my favorites of the bunch.


I need to reinstall Planescape: Terment after re-buying it from GOG because I have a disc version with a game ending bug. Worse yet, it was sold to me without the manual or packaging in a "D&D Bundle!" at Fred Myers some nine years ago along with Soulbringer. What I played of PT is great, though.

PST > BG2 > BG1 > IWD2 > IWD

bg2 > bg1 > iwd2 > iwd1 > pst

BG2 -> BG1-> PST-> IWD1

IWD2 is AD&D 3.+ ed, so I never bought it or played it, so I can't list it.

If you have already completed Baldur's gate II: Shadows of Amn, I would recommend trying again 'iron-man' style; that is, play as you normally would

--- BUT ---

If your main character gets eliminated during the game, accept it. Start another game. Don't save your game during your session. When you want to end your session, go into Options, select Quit, select Save.

I'm telling you, playing the game that way is far more challenging strategically and tactically.

:)

It's been so long I can't remember if I played the BG2 Expansion. And I don't have the old Discs to load it up and see if I played it. But the series is great, so maybe I should make the effort to play again. As for playing Iron Man Style, I saw the clip of the 24 min run. That is someone who knows the game. Don't know if I could ever get that good.

Throne of Bhaal is considered to be extremely controversial. I really liked it a lot, though. Much action, quick battle, very refreshing and satisfying overall (at least as per my tastes). You must get it; it is a great conclusion to the series (BG). Plus you get to choose mortality or deification, with proper impact upon all other characters...

For what it's worth I agree with you :)

Oh what fun! For the record, I think all of these games are great. Some just happen to be more great than others.

BG2>PST>IWD=BG1>IWD2
If you want my justifications for these things, I can provide them. If not? I'll say it right now: Icewind Dale 2 doesn't implement 3rd edition rules all that well and has some seriously off-kilter pacing.

To be honest, I wasn't even aware that there was a Icewind Dale II out there until I came to GOG.com.

At the time of its release, I was deeply immersed into 3 console game systems (Playstation 2, XBOX & Gamecube) for several years before returning to the PC.

Stupid question but why ts Throne of Bhaal controversial?

On topic, I have a hard time comparing BG, IWD and PST as it's like comparing apples, oranges and bananas.

IWD is great because you can fully customize all your characters and the story doesn't get in the way of the action. Dialog is at a minimum (See next paragraph why that's a good thing) and it's over quickly so you can get back into the action and tackle those orcs holed up behind a trapped bridge. Problem with IWD is later on the game, it gets too easy and when the game starts getting too easy, you just want to finish it quick. There's also the issue of getting swarmed when you enter an area, but hey, just leave, rest, go back in, bash some more, rinse and repeat. I don't really like that kinda cheese in my games.

BG is great as you have a good balance between action and story, lots of places to visit and explore in any order you like. Problem is BG games is the dialog writing is terrible. Dialog wise, your only choices are a do gooder response or a stupid evil response killing any chance at roleplaying your character's decisions which for me, kills some of the immersion. If you don't choose the "good" responses in dialog, you miss out on XP and loot essentially forcing you to play a good character. I just finished playing through BG1 and some of my dialog options made me cringe. Still, I picked the "good" one cos that's where the loot and XP are *sigh*.

PST is good as it's a through provoking adventure touching on morality and philosophy and the action doesn't get in the way of the story. Dialog is well done, story telling is well paced for the most part and the setting is just great, I love love to see another game in the PS universe. Bad thing about PST is low replayability. Once you've played through with a high wisdom and intelligence scores, you've pretty much seen everything the game has to offer.

In the end, it's all what you're looking for. Is it a well told story, non-stop action or somewhere in between?