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Posted September 09, 2013
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pcamagna: If you use the launcher, yes, but you don't need it at all. You can play the game directly with baldur.exe and ignore the launcher altogether since it's not needed (e.g. I no longer even have my launcher). Once you've downloaded the game there are no checks or authorizations and it's fully portable.
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Hickory: That's fair enough, and I have no issue with it checking for updates. But that is not what you said, or implied. Your implication was that EE does not phone home, period -- at least the way it was worded. Nothing was mentioned about only if you create a separate shortcut. The launcher is what is created at installation.
I said it doesn't have DRM, and it doesn't. I forgot about the launcher--that's on me--because I no longer have mine and don't use it and it's optional besides. If you use a program that's supposed to check for updates it's a safe assumption that it's going to, you know, check for updates. :)

Could it be made easier for the folks who don't want it to check and could they advertise the lack of DRM better? Absolutely. The people who are interested in those features are, unfortunately, a small minority.
Post edited September 09, 2013 by pcamagna
Posted September 09, 2013
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Hickory: That's fair enough, and I have no issue with it checking for updates. But that is not what you said, or implied. Your implication was that EE does not phone home, period -- at least the way it was worded. Nothing was mentioned about only if you create a separate shortcut. The launcher is what is created at installation.
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pcamagna: I said it doesn't have DRM, and it doesn't. I forgot about the launcher--that's on me--because I no longer have mine and don't use it and it's optional besides. If you use a program that's supposed to check for updates it's a safe assumption that it's going to, you know, check for updates. :)
You said (emphasis is mine):
"DRM was removed from BGEE several months ago. You log in, download, and then have a fully portable install that never phones home."

My point was, and is, that it does phone home. Not ifs or buts, it just does.

Could it be made easier for the folks who don't want it to check and could they advertise the lack of DRM better? Absolutely. The people who are interested in those features are, unfortunately, a small minority.
A silent minority perhaps, but I'm not going to argue or disagree with you on that matter -- I don't know.
Posted September 09, 2013
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pcamagna: I said it doesn't have DRM, and it doesn't. I forgot about the launcher--that's on me--because I no longer have mine and don't use it and it's optional besides. If you use a program that's supposed to check for updates it's a safe assumption that it's going to, you know, check for updates. :)
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Hickory: You said (emphasis is mine):
"DRM was removed from BGEE several months ago. You log in, download, and then have a fully portable install that never phones home."

My point was, and is, that it does phone home. Not ifs or buts, it just does.
Right--if you use the superfluous launcher.
Posted September 09, 2013
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Hickory: You said (emphasis is mine):
"DRM was removed from BGEE several months ago. You log in, download, and then have a fully portable install that never phones home."

My point was, and is, that it does phone home. Not ifs or buts, it just does.
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pcamagna: Right--if you use the superfluous launcher.
Which is what is installed at installation time. Maybe they should get rid of the launcher. :)
Posted September 09, 2013
I think they could really up their sales if EE was released on GoG. After recently introducing discounts for completing your GoG collections, EE would probably be discounted for people who already have it which for many BG veterans could tip the balance of buying it. I just don't know what would happen to the original BG...

Hell, even if it wasn't discounted for BG owners, you could still get it much cheaper since there always is a discount for newly released titles. There are also weekend promos...
Post edited September 09, 2013 by Arthandas
Posted September 09, 2013
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Arthandas: I think they could really up their sales if EE was released on GoG. After recently introducing discounts for completing your GoG collections, EE would probably be discounted for people who already have it which for many BG veterans could tip the balance of buying it. I just don't know what would happen to the original BG...
I completely agree--I'd love to see it here on GOG. Given the legal issues that have faced (and at one point, halted) EE distribution already, I have no idea if it's even possible.
Posted September 20, 2013
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SerWind: Purchasing the Enhanced editions is an investment in Baldur's Gate 3. It's a way of showing interest at the very least.
Yes, I would be interested in BG3, but not made by Oster & co.
Posted September 29, 2013
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Arthandas: The 25$ price tag is just insulting. The only way I can treat both Enhanced Editions seriously is if they were 5$ addons to the original games (I still wouldn't buy them though).
If only they actually improved the graphics, they whine that the can't do it because the original art assets were lost (had they not been lost they could have just been recompiled at a higher resolution from the vector assets)...
Well, they could have recreated them from scratch, only in HD this time. That would justify a 50$ price tag too. Their reply to that was that this is beyond the scope of their overhaul... some overhaul. Ooh, iPad and DLC support, THANK YOU! /sarcasm

This is something they really really should have done a kickstarter for (that is, a kickstarter exclusively to fund artists to recreate the art assets to allow proper HDifying)

That being said, I disagree about it being all bad. Ignoring the price, now that the bugs were fixed BGEE is strictly speaking superior BG1 experience than BGTuTu, BG1, and BGT.
Post edited September 29, 2013 by taltamir
Posted November 27, 2013
Has anyone bought the BG2 EE by now and can give feedback?
Posted November 27, 2013
Steam currently has BG 1 Enhanced Edition discount to $9.99.

I have been trying to play BG 1 using the original version. Unfortunately, I can't seem to determine what is causing the game to crash. Currently, I think it may be a driver issue. The GOG community has been very helpful throughout the troubleshooting process. I haven't had much time to work on it because of the upcoming holidays.

I have considered buying the BG 1enhanced edition but I have a slight problem with buying the game a second time.

I would appreciate a non-biased opinion (or as non-biased as possible) of how stable the BG 1 enhanced edition is.

I'm also curious to see how the BG 2 enhanced edition turned out.

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Arthandas: I think they could really up their sales if EE was released on GoG. After recently introducing discounts for completing your GoG collections, EE would probably be discounted for people who already have it which for many BG veterans could tip the balance of buying it. I just don't know what would happen to the original BG...
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pcamagna: I completely agree--I'd love to see it here on GOG. Given the legal issues that have faced (and at one point, halted) EE distribution already, I have no idea if it's even possible.
I remember hearing about this awhile back. I never heard the details of what actually happened though.
Post edited November 27, 2013 by auroraparadox
Posted November 28, 2013
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auroraparadox: I have considered buying the BG 1enhanced edition but I have a slight problem with buying the game a second time.
I would appreciate a non-biased opinion (or as non-biased as possible) of how stable the BG 1 enhanced edition is.
The game runs completely smoothly and crystal clear for me using Win 7 64 bit.

I am looking forward to buying BG2EE when it gets a similar discount.
Posted November 28, 2013
BG2:EE might be decent, I'll wait what the general opinion is.

As far as BG:EE is concerned, I much prefer the original Baldur's Gate. I hate several aspects of BG:EE compared to the original:
- weapon skills
- summon spells (much less minions)
- druid / ranger roots spell
- some AI changes

In the end, BG:EE isn't very faithful to the original, which I guess they can't help, since it's based on the BG2 engine. But when playing Baldur's Gate 1 on the Baldur's Gate 2 engine, I get annoying by anything that's not the same as the original (except for the graphics of course).
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