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AutisticKitschMama: Well, the fact that the Gog release is without the updates tells me everything I need to know...

Looks like I'm uninstalling my Gog purchase of it and buying it from Steam instead
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vampirosuk: What does it tell you? (apart from GOG doesn't have the update) What do we actually know about the situation with the GOG release?

Let us speculate that the absence of a GOG update / DLC is the developers fault:
Uninstalling your GOG purchase does nothing. We've paid good money for this product, and we're going to 'reward' the developer / publisher by buying the game again on Steam? If anything, this only encourages and contributes to the problem. That we'll just take it and still keep coming back to them for their games.

Because the GOG userbase is comparatively insignificant to Steam, how does this automatically make this GOG's fault, as to developers' attitudes towards the GOG platform, and hence its customers? We can only change the developers' attitudes by voting with our wallets. Ask ourselves, if having a principled approach to how we are expected to be treated as a customer - and potentially affecting change - worth it for being without their product?

Regardless of whether the issue is with how viable the developers find the GOG platform, a technical issue with the release or where the GOG version falls in the list of priorities, we simply don't know - other than Atari's response mentioned in a previous post here. Given the vagueness of this response, we still don't know what area of responsibility for the 'delay' falls. Why would developers / publishers / GOG, as businesses, reveal details which could have negative implications for any party? when they are in a business partnership?

Is it up to GOG to develop and publish games / updates of any products on its store? or is the onus not on the developers?

Are we, as customers on the GOG store, not meant to support this store and GOG's mission in giving ownership to customers? As supporters of this approach, are we not meant to take a more principled stance in how we are expected to be treated as customers?

What does stating our grievances on this forum achieve? Why not publically call Digital Eclipse to account on their public channels such as YouTube?
At this point, as soon as I see a copy that includes both DLC on either TPB or 1337x, I'm going to just obtain it there, and save money on the DLC guilt free. In the future I'll stick with Steam or Epic Games for any and all recent releases as it seems like GoG is, as the name implies, only good for Good OLD Games...at firesale prices.
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vampirosuk: What does it tell you? (apart from GOG doesn't have the update) What do we actually know about the situation with the GOG release?

Let us speculate that the absence of a GOG update / DLC is the developers fault:
Uninstalling your GOG purchase does nothing. We've paid good money for this product, and we're going to 'reward' the developer / publisher by buying the game again on Steam? If anything, this only encourages and contributes to the problem. That we'll just take it and still keep coming back to them for their games.

Because the GOG userbase is comparatively insignificant to Steam, how does this automatically make this GOG's fault, as to developers' attitudes towards the GOG platform, and hence its customers? We can only change the developers' attitudes by voting with our wallets. Ask ourselves, if having a principled approach to how we are expected to be treated as a customer - and potentially affecting change - worth it for being without their product?

Regardless of whether the issue is with how viable the developers find the GOG platform, a technical issue with the release or where the GOG version falls in the list of priorities, we simply don't know - other than Atari's response mentioned in a previous post here. Given the vagueness of this response, we still don't know what area of responsibility for the 'delay' falls. Why would developers / publishers / GOG, as businesses, reveal details which could have negative implications for any party? when they are in a business partnership?

Is it up to GOG to develop and publish games / updates of any products on its store? or is the onus not on the developers?

Are we, as customers on the GOG store, not meant to support this store and GOG's mission in giving ownership to customers? As supporters of this approach, are we not meant to take a more principled stance in how we are expected to be treated as customers?

What does stating our grievances on this forum achieve? Why not publically call Digital Eclipse to account on their public channels such as YouTube?
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BanditC64: At this point, as soon as I see a copy that includes both DLC on either TPB or 1337x, I'm going to just obtain it there, and save money on the DLC guilt free. In the future I'll stick with Steam or Epic Games for any and all recent releases as it seems like GoG is, as the name implies, only good for Good OLD Games...at firesale prices.
I myself, with a library of 100s of legally purchased games, would make this one game I own / DLC an exception for piracy, given the way it has been handled, by whatever parties are responsible.

I, like the other users on this forum, just want to see their update / DLC on here. This situation and the experience for GOG users / customers is poor.

I don’t know the workings between GOG and games publishers, but given that users perceive updates / DLC being delayed on GOG as ‘standard industry practice’, then surely something has to change. Whether GOG needs to review their policy with publishers, in how they agree to update their games / DLC. The bottom line is, everyone is losing out here, as things stand. Customers will go to Steam when their updates don’t appear. Especially without any communication from GOG / publishers.

‘That’s the way it is’, is not good enough, especially given that GOG are trying to push their storefront as a viable platform even for new releases. I, too, have been hesitant for a long time in buying new releases on GOG, because of reading GOG customer reviews over the years of GOG versions missing updates that are on Steam.
Actually, ‘Atari 50’ is the only time I have purchased a new release on GOG. On launch day, I was intending on buying the Steam version, as there was absolutely no mention of a planned GOG version, either on Atari / Digital Eclipse website or even the GOG store news page. What’s that all about? GOG is a storefront, selling the GOG version of Atari 50, and it just appeared on the store page out of thin air? Can you imagine other GOG users in the same situation? Unless they checked back on the GOG store at the last minute, they would probably have purchased the game on Steam.

There’s no doubt that GOG also has a lot to answer for. They are selling the base game Atari 50, and as a storefront - given that GOG users have no doubt contacted GOG for an update - GOG should be in touch with the publishers, or at the very least, acknowledging their GOG customer’s queries, as best they can. Do they want their customers to purchase from the GOG store or not? It’s about communication, transparency and clear customer expectations. Keeping their customers informed.

GOG’s mission statement says they ‘put gamers first’ and that their customers have ‘direct contact with the GOG team’. I too have contacted GOG about the Atari 50 DLC, but never received any response. It’s about time GOG lives up to their gamers first statement and make it actual policy and work with their publishers, and be transparent to their customers - as much as possible - on what to expect when purchasing a game - especially a new release - on GOG with regards to us receiving updates in a timely manner. Otherwise, we’ll go elsewhere for new releases.
Post edited November 09, 2024 by vampirosuk
Yeah, I had already decided to only buy stuff on GoG if it wasn't on Steam because games aren't consistently updated. I made an exception because you could play this on Luna as well. I was burned immediately.

Looks like my stance should have remained. It's a shame. I love GoG's stance on DRM, but what good is it if you don't get game updates?
One positive I will say is that gog gave me a refund very quickly. It said up to 24 hours for gog wallet (which is what I went with) and had the refund in an hour or two. I also find it funny that one of the multiple choice answers for why I was refunding was literally "Not updated/missing content" or something to that effect. If its one of the answers they provide when requesting a refund it makes me think they're aware that its an issue at least.
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xpancakes11x.189: One positive I will say is that gog gave me a refund very quickly. It said up to 24 hours for gog wallet (which is what I went with) and had the refund in an hour or two. I also find it funny that one of the multiple choice answers for why I was refunding was literally "Not updated/missing content" or something to that effect. If its one of the answers they provide when requesting a refund it makes me think they're aware that its an issue at least.
That option you bring up has apparently been a thing sense I have been a Gog user I know of ..Unsure how long its been a thing but even sense 2018 it shows to me Gog really needs to work on ensuring games keep up to date when it makes sense same with content when it makes sense to ensure the content is there in a timely fashion
Post edited November 09, 2024 by BanditKeith2
Gog should have in their agreement that all patches and dlc should be delivered on their store and in a prompt timescale.
For me i am disappointed not to get the dlc so far as i love the Atari 50 program.
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xpancakes11x.189: One positive I will say is that gog gave me a refund very quickly. It said up to 24 hours for gog wallet (which is what I went with) and had the refund in an hour or two. I also find it funny that one of the multiple choice answers for why I was refunding was literally "Not updated/missing content" or something to that effect. If its one of the answers they provide when requesting a refund it makes me think they're aware that its an issue at least.
How long ago did you buy it? I just sent a request to support to either explain why the DCL is not available yet and tell me when it will be or refund the game so I can go repurchase on Steam.

Fortunately I just noticed that "Atari 50 The Anniversary Celebration Digital Expanded Edition-TENOKE" has been posted to the usual sites for pirated games and it says "Note: Game is updated to v20241108, the following DLCs are included: Atari 50: The Wider World of Atari, Atari 50: The First Console War", so I have my solution. If I don't have the opportunity to purchase the DLC by the end of the weekend, I'll simply install this copy and will never purchase the two DLC that should have been available here. Lost opportunity for Atari, DE and GoG.
Post edited November 09, 2024 by BanditC64
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BanditC64: How long ago did you buy it? I just sent a request to support to either explain why the DCL is not available yet and tell me when it will be or refund the game so I can go repurchase on Steam.

Fortunately I just noticed that "Atari 50 The Anniversary Celebration Digital Expanded Edition-TENOKE" has been posted to the usual sites for pirated games and it says "Note: Game is updated to v20241108, the following DLCs are included: Atari 50: The Wider World of Atari, Atari 50: The First Console War", so I have my solution. If I don't have the opportunity to purchase the DLC by the end of the weekend, I'll simply install this copy and will never purchase the two DLC that should have been available here. Lost opportunity for Atari, DE and GoG.
I bought it Nov. 1st and got my refund yesterday.
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BanditC64: How long ago did you buy it? I just sent a request to support to either explain why the DCL is not available yet and tell me when it will be or refund the game so I can go repurchase on Steam.

Fortunately I just noticed that "Atari 50 The Anniversary Celebration Digital Expanded Edition-TENOKE" has been posted to the usual sites for pirated games and it says "Note: Game is updated to v20241108, the following DLCs are included: Atari 50: The Wider World of Atari, Atari 50: The First Console War", so I have my solution. If I don't have the opportunity to purchase the DLC by the end of the weekend, I'll simply install this copy and will never purchase the two DLC that should have been available here. Lost opportunity for Atari, DE and GoG.
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xpancakes11x.189: I bought it Nov. 1st and got my refund yesterday.
I bought it like December of last year. I don't expect a refund unless they are being super generous.
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xpancakes11x.189: One positive I will say is that gog gave me a refund very quickly. It said up to 24 hours for gog wallet (which is what I went with) and had the refund in an hour or two. I also find it funny that one of the multiple choice answers for why I was refunding was literally "Not updated/missing content" or something to that effect. If its one of the answers they provide when requesting a refund it makes me think they're aware that its an issue at least.
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BanditC64: How long ago did you buy it? I just sent a request to support to either explain why the DCL is not available yet and tell me when it will be or refund the game so I can go repurchase on Steam.

Fortunately I just noticed that "Atari 50 The Anniversary Celebration Digital Expanded Edition-TENOKE" has been posted to the usual sites for pirated games and it says "Note: Game is updated to v20241108, the following DLCs are included: Atari 50: The Wider World of Atari, Atari 50: The First Console War", so I have my solution. If I don't have the opportunity to purchase the DLC by the end of the weekend, I'll simply install this copy and will never purchase the two DLC that should have been available here. Lost opportunity for Atari, DE and GoG.
Rarely if ever as has a game/dlc ever been released on the weekend here on Gog

Still I'd say pirating is better then buying the game and dlcs on steam or another drmed storefront as if one does it'd kinda reward the bad behavior of the devs/publishers in general .. Granted for me I do hope they get their buts in gear and iether add the update/dlcs or do what the Disney Classic Games Collection case had ended up being rather then releasing a game as dlc..they delisted the old collection and put the new game with it., while giving a decent discount to owners of the prior version.. I don't care which route is taken so long as a legal version thats drm-free with offline installers exisit
Post edited November 09, 2024 by BanditKeith2
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xpancakes11x.189: One positive I will say is that gog gave me a refund very quickly. It said up to 24 hours for gog wallet (which is what I went with) and had the refund in an hour or two. I also find it funny that one of the multiple choice answers for why I was refunding was literally "Not updated/missing content" or something to that effect. If its one of the answers they provide when requesting a refund it makes me think they're aware that its an issue at least.
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BanditC64: How long ago did you buy it? I just sent a request to support to either explain why the DCL is not available yet and tell me when it will be or refund the game so I can go repurchase on Steam.

Fortunately I just noticed that "Atari 50 The Anniversary Celebration Digital Expanded Edition-TENOKE" has been posted to the usual sites for pirated games and it says "Note: Game is updated to v20241108, the following DLCs are included: Atari 50: The Wider World of Atari, Atari 50: The First Console War", so I have my solution. If I don't have the opportunity to purchase the DLC by the end of the weekend, I'll simply install this copy and will never purchase the two DLC that should have been available here. Lost opportunity for Atari, DE and GoG.
Well Atari has finally released information on the “Atari 50: The Anniversary Celebration” DLC for GOG.

"We are currently working on bringing the DLC to GOG. If we are able to, it will be available early 2025"

So its being worked on coming atleast heres where they announced it https://x.com/atari/status/1855360322292310338
SMH

The game is finished and published all over the place. What is it about GoG that makes it so hard that the publisher isn't even certain it can be published at some ambiguous time month's later?
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themazingness: SMH

The game is finished and published all over the place. What is it about GoG that makes it so hard that the publisher isn't even certain it can be published at some ambiguous time month's later?
Right?!? Like they have it done...and working on Steam, yet it will take them months to get it working on GoG...if they are able to at all. Going forward I'm not going to purchase any future games on Steam unless they are at least 10 years old or on sale for no more than 20% their original MSRP.
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themazingness: SMH

The game is finished and published all over the place. What is it about GoG that makes it so hard that the publisher isn't even certain it can be published at some ambiguous time month's later?
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BanditC64: Right?!? Like they have it done...and working on Steam, yet it will take them months to get it working on GoG...if they are able to at all. Going forward I'm not going to purchase any future games on Steam unless they are at least 10 years old or on sale for no more than 20% their original MSRP.
to be fair this is a major rarity and seems linked to Digital Eclipse as the only other similar case to this I am aware of this happening was of another game digital eclipse was involved in here and they ended up rather then releasing the dlc repackaged the game with the dlc as a whole product ,delisted the old version and gave a permanent decent discount to the owners of the old game version

So ya this seems on fault of Digital eclipse as most other publishers and devs for game releases get updates and dlc in a timely manner

Thus ya I say just avoiding digital eclipse related releases here for afew years atleast if you are going to buy here games
Post edited November 10, 2024 by BanditKeith2
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themazingness: SMH

The game is finished and published all over the place. What is it about GoG that makes it so hard that the publisher isn't even certain it can be published at some ambiguous time month's later?
Honestly given the only other case this has happened to I am aware of digital eclipse was involved in ..I think that right there tells one the true culprit on the problem its not Atari its not Disney (for the other case I am aware its happened to) or any other game this may happen to but rather Digital eclipse at fault somehow given the pattern
Post edited November 10, 2024 by BanditKeith2