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Posted Yesterday
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foad01: I know several people who pirate video games. There is a difference between them and the "Piracy is OK"-people in this thread. They don't try to justify what they are doing. They don't try to justify piracy with "I has to defeat the evil corporations" or "corporations steal from us so we steal from them" or "piracy exists anyway" or whatever justification. They know it is wrong. They know it is illegal. They just don't care. And this is refreshingly honest in comparison to the nonsense posted in this thread.
And there it is. Push aside the mental gymnastics and the layers upon layers of excuses, and you'll find the base reason for theft is the person wants the product but doesn't want to pay for it.

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Related to the OP's topic, Barefoot Essentials (fork) has added an update to highlight those with brand-new accounts to make it easier to spot. Not claiming this is in direct relation to piracy, but it should help spot those pesky AI bot posts, or maybe it'll help the nice people on the forum welcome newcomers with open arms? It's up to the users how you view it.
Posted Yesterday
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lupineshadow: My opinion is and continues to be that this thread should be removed.
My opinion is that any legitimate and 'legal' topic (on any forum/etc) that stays civil should be left where it is.

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lupineshadow: Legally, the argument is clear, and again, any storefront should be removing any reference to piracy - at the very least, to appease their clients (the game publishers).
Yes, let's appease the almighty corpos who often treat those who want DRM free games with disdain....deigning to only throw us some decades old scraps off their table when they need more money or good PR in the gaming community.
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MarkoH01: Well ... discussiing piracy is perfectly fine. Promoting it is not. That's what the TOC states. So no need to remove the thread. Also, there never should be any need to remove a thread at all because we all are adults and should be able to discuss things in a civil way ...
Well said and spot on :)

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Mafwek: 1) Piracy is going to exist regardless of there being GOG or not. It's just an excuse, and excuses are refuge of the weak as the Emperor taught us.

2) Speaking as somebody who is completely amoral (but not unethical) - I will start caring about somebody stealing illegally from corporations when they stop stealing legally from people.
*slow clap*
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g2222: You are free to assume everything and anything, however absurd it may be. Cheers!
And here comes good ol' gaslighting. I wondered when they would arrive...
Post edited Yesterday by GamezRanker
Posted Yesterday
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richlind33: Critical thinking is the antithesis of groupthink, virtue signaling, or political correctness. If you can support an opinion/position rationally, it doesn't matter if it does or doesn't align with popular opinion.

Groupthink is a positive feedback loop, critical thinking is a negative feedback loop. One increases the impact of bias, the other one reduces it.

There is a difference between saying that piracy is not immoral, and downloading commercial content without paying for it.

One does not necessarily follow from the other.
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Sachys: still talking mass drivel at every opportunity.
employ some critical thinking.
learn to understand the terminology you employ.
Is this what passes for reasoned discussion in your neck of the woods?
Posted Yesterday
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richlind33: Is this what passes for reasoned discussion in your neck of the woods?
Wouldn't that be something more akin to a random series of burps and other outgassings?
Posted Yesterday
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richlind33: Is this what passes for reasoned discussion in your neck of the woods?
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GamezRanker: Wouldn't that be something more akin to a random series of burps and other outgassings?
I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. I really do.
Posted Yesterday
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rtcvb32: Yet the point still stands, that capcom won't put the few hours of effort... Even if it would sell quite well...
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foad01: No it doesn't. You are comparing the situation for a company with hundreds or thousands of workers with the situation for a small team (1-4 persons). There are developers who don't want the extra work. You might disagree with them, but at the end it is still their decision where to release their game besides Steam.
Hmmm... but if the game is already released on Steam, i don't see why it would be a big issue to add to other store fronts. Or at the absolute worst case, taking an iso of the PS1 or whatever version, and wrapping an emulator with it as a single executable.

I guess that logic is beyond me.

Though, if it isn't provided... then people who wanted it and aren't willing to wait or go with DRM are just going to do what they do anyways. Well no skin off my back.
Posted Yesterday
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Mafwek: It was illegal hiding Jews in the Third Reich, so what? For me piracy is wrong if good and honest people get screwed over do to that piracy, and I yet have to see that happening.
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foad01: Yeah. And murder is fine as long as it hits the right person. /s
People think murder is perfectly fine since there is death penalty all over the world. So I don't know about that one.

In any case, there is difference between theft and murder (or other violent crime), and comparing piracy with a theft is questionable as well, since it doesn't always mean lost sales.
Posted Yesterday
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foad01: Yeah. And murder is fine as long as it hits the right person. /s
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Mafwek: People think murder is perfectly fine since there is death penalty all over the world. So I don't know about that one.

In any case, there is difference between theft and murder (or other violent crime), and comparing piracy with a theft is questionable as well, since it doesn't always mean lost sales.
Many cultures have had words differentiating a legal or justified killing, and an illegal killing - murder. Can we have two different terms for acceptable and unacceptable theft?
Posted 13 hours ago
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Mafwek: People think murder is perfectly fine since there is death penalty all over the world. So I don't know about that one.

In any case, there is difference between theft and murder (or other violent crime), and comparing piracy with a theft is questionable as well, since it doesn't always mean lost sales.
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SultanOfSuave: Many cultures have had words differentiating a legal or justified killing, and an illegal killing - murder. Can we have two different terms for acceptable and unacceptable theft?
I think it's a question of whether or not law has legitimacy, and the degree of enforcement that is required to uphold it is a perfect indicator.

Read Rousseau's Political Economy and you'll understand the conditions that are required for law to function for the benefit of all, rather than for those who rule by virtue of wealth and power.
Posted 13 hours ago
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g2222: You are free to assume everything and anything, however absurd it may be. Cheers!
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GamezRanker: And here comes good ol' gaslighting. I wondered when they would arrive...
huh?
That was a fancy way of saying that I find lupineshadows' assumption absurd.
It's quite a dick move of them to casually turn the OP's very simple message on its head.
If BreOl72 started this thread to promote piracy, then Gandhi secretly endorsed violence.
Post edited 12 hours ago by g2222
Posted 12 hours ago
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Sachys: still talking mass drivel at every opportunity.
employ some critical thinking.
learn to understand the terminology you employ.
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richlind33: Is this what passes for reasoned discussion in your neck of the woods?
nope.
that usually involves making somebody pick up their teeth with broken fingers.
I have gone above and beyond.
Posted 10 hours ago
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richlind33: Is this what passes for reasoned discussion in your neck of the woods?
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Sachys: nope.
that usually involves making somebody pick up their teeth with broken fingers.
I have gone above and beyond.
Ah, so you fling poo out of generosity.

An unusual pathology, to be sure.
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