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BreOl72: How TF could any dev possibly implement this feature?
In more of the recent JRPGs I've played as dtgreene said, there's a Memo menu option that lists all the previous chapters in the game with a quick blurb on what main quests you've did, who you met, and what your goal(s) and other objective(s) are for the current chapter.
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BreOl72: How TF could any dev possibly implement this feature?
Why would you think this is hard? A few games already do the "story so far" thing (which is simple), and if you can program a traditional tutorial at the beginning of the game, you can program a brief "here's how the mechanics work" reminder tutorial in a reasonably short amount of time.

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EverNightX: If you didn't like the game enough to keep with it originally and you don't like it enough to restart it, you should probably be playing something else.
That's not even remotely true. Stuff happens (life, burnout, etc.), but by the time you're ready to return to the game you've forgotten enough that continuing is problematic, and starting over may not be appealing for longer games, particularly if you're short on gaming time. This is pretty common.
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BreOl72: How TF could any dev possibly implement this feature?
The former is simple. Give them a log of the last few major events in the story as a journal/log/overview. The latter? I dunno, Glover had you throw yourself down a well in the overworld hub.
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eric5h5: That's not even remotely true. Stuff happens (life, burnout, etc.), but by the time you're ready to return to the game you've forgotten enough that continuing is problematic, and starting over may not be appealing for longer games, particularly if you're short on gaming time. This is pretty common.
I think it is true. You can always find time for the things you really want to do. And if restarting the game is not appealing enough you are wasting your time playing it at all. It's just the Sunk Cost fallacy making you consider it.
Post edited April 28, 2024 by EverNightX
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EverNightX: I think it is true. You can always find time for the things you really want to do.
When you reach a certain age, you may find that you can't always do the things you enjoy. Other things -- less fun -- are more pressing and important. It could be work, taking care of family, studying, and so on. Sadly, playing videogames is luxury for only some.

And even within the "fun" category, some lucky people may have other fun activities that compete with playing games: going out with friends, playing boardgames, travelling, knitting...

Finally, there are the cases where you simply cannot play the game: you don't feel like it, you are depressed, your computer broke, you broke your hand or got injured, nasty malware took over...

There is so much that life can throw at you to keep you away from your current videogame that I always wonder how people can manage it. I had a folder of old savefiles I never re-used. The intent and belief that I would make use of them shows how naive I was back then.

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EverNightX: And if restarting the game is not appealing enough you are wasting your time playing it at all. It's just the Sunk Cost fallacy making you consider it.
I see it differently. Sure, I enjoyed playing game A, but it will hold no surprises in its story for the next 36 hours. At the same time, I also have game B in my backlog, that ought to be surprising and exciting from the start.

"Appealing enough" means a threshold that depends on the person, on the half-fun level of game A, how long will it take to reach the point at which it was interrupted, how alluring game B is, when or how likely would would game B be picked-up if they kept playing A, and many other factors.
no. if i stoped playing a game (for whatever reason), when I start again I want to start from the beginning again anyway.
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EverNightX: I think it is true. You can always find time for the things you really want to do.
It's not true, and no you can't always.
And if restarting the game is not appealing enough you are wasting your time playing it at all.
That's the most illogical thing I've read all day.
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EverNightX: I think it is true. You can always find time for the things you really want to do.
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eric5h5: It's not true, and no you can't always.

And if restarting the game is not appealing enough you are wasting your time playing it at all.
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eric5h5: That's the most illogical thing I've read all day.
I'll try and explain it. It's a pretty basic idea.

If you've forgotten the game so much that you can't continue where you left off and yet the idea of playing playing the game from the beginning is not that entertaining (even though you apparently don't remember it well), then you would be better off doing something you actually desire to do be doing. It's a waste of time to be playing a game you don't find fun to be playing. If it's a chore then you've picked a lousy "fun" activity.

And yes you can always find time for the things you really want to do unless you are enslaved. Assuming you are a free person you actually do have the choice. You make the sacrifices necessary for what you care about most. And it's perfectly fine if gaming is not what you care about most. That's probably healthy.
Post edited April 28, 2024 by EverNightX
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EverNightX: I'll try and explain it.
Don't bother; I didn't read it. This isn't about what you think...the problem is you're refusing to understand how other people play games. The proposed features mentioned in the OP are well-received for a reason, and including it in games would help quite a few people. You know, people who aren't you and agree with the OP.
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eric5h5: Don't bother; I didn't read it. This isn't about what you think...
Silly me thinking it was about what you wrote.

Can't bother to play a game. Can't bother to read when active on a forum.

Anyway best of luck with that.
Post edited April 28, 2024 by EverNightX
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EverNightX: Can't bother to play a game.
See, that's just 100% moronic and exactly why I didn't read what you wrote; you're apparently incapable of having a reasonable discussion or understanding anything that isn't you. The proposed features would help many gamers and not have any negative impact on anyone else. Should I assume that you also oppose any accessibility features in games on the grounds that you don't have those particular disabilities and anyone who does is just "playing it wrong"? Because that's exactly how you're behaving.
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EverNightX: Can't bother to play a game.
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eric5h5: See, that's just 100% moronic and exactly why I didn't read what you wrote; you're apparently incapable of having a reasonable discussion or understanding anything that isn't you. The proposed features would help many gamers and not have any negative impact on anyone else. Should I assume that you also oppose any accessibility features in games on the grounds that you don't have those particular disabilities and anyone who does is just "playing it wrong"? Because that's exactly how you're behaving.
I never once said I disagree with any of the proposed features. You just made that up.
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EverNightX: I think it is true. You can always find time for the things you really want to do.
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Gede: When you reach a certain age, you may find that you can't always do the things you enjoy. Other things -- less fun -- are more pressing and important. It could be work, taking care of family, studying, and so on. Sadly, playing videogames is luxury for only some.
I mean....duh. But that's a decision to put work, family, studying, etc first. You sacrifice something you want less for something you want more.

My point is that IF video games were what you REALLY WANTED to do you'd make time. You would instead sacrifice work, family, studying, etc. Now I'm not promoting that. But there's a difference between really wanting something and something just being a "nice to have". I'm not saying you would not "like" to have more time for gaming. I'm saying if you don' have time for it, it's because you've chosen to sacrifice it for other things in life you wanted more. That's all.

And thus I stand by what I said: "You can always find time for the things you really want to do"

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Gede: Sure, I enjoyed playing game A, but it will hold no surprises in its story for the next 36 hours.
My thinking was that if you truly can't remember what happened previously then it should still be reasonably fresh to you. And if you don't recall enjoying it enough to enjoy it a 2nd time then you are better off moving to something else.
Post edited April 28, 2024 by EverNightX
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EverNightX: I never once said I disagree with any of the proposed features. You just made that up.
You're sure spending a lot of time and effort arguing against something you claim not to disagree with.
And thus I stand by what I said: "You can always find time for the things you really want to do"
That's objectively wrong, because you can want to do more than one thing equally as much and yet not have time to do them all.

You should really give up on this whole "you're playing it wrong" nonsense. Try to understand that other people aren't you, and have different approaches to games and value different aspects of them.
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eric5h5: You should really give up on this whole "you're playing it wrong" nonsense.
There's that imagination of yours again. I never said or suggested that either :)

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eric5h5: You're sure spending a lot of time and effort arguing against something you claim not to disagree with.
I see no reason to argue for or against features. It's not like devs are scrambling to change their games based on some GOG forum post.

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eric5h5: That's objectively wrong, because you can want to do more than one thing equally as much and yet not have time to do them all.
No. You'll find you do choose one over the other. We choose what we care most about.
Post edited April 28, 2024 by EverNightX
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EverNightX: There's that imagination of yours again. I never said or suggested that either :)
Your words: "If you didn't like the game enough to keep with it originally and you don't like it enough to restart it, you should probably be playing something else."
I see no reason to argue for or against features. It's not like devs are scrambling to change their games based on some GOG forum post.
You obviously didn't read or understand the first post on this topic.
No. You'll find you do choose one over the other. We choose what we care most about.
Yes. You only speak for yourself (fortunately), not anybody else. You REALLY have a hard time understanding that.