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General discussion (archive)Dragon Age 2 Removed from Steam as well now(81 posts)(81 posts)
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Posted July 27, 2011
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Lorfean: Oh no.

Not DA2.

Whatever will we do when great, traditional RPG's like this get...... Oh wait.
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kodeen: I think the more pressing question is when/if DA1 gets pulled. I'm thinking that its only saving grace is that they are no longer publishing DLC for it (I think).
I got my copies of Dragon Age: Origins and DA:O Awakening at the local GameStop and bought the DLC's through BioWare's Social Network, so that wouldn't affect me.

And you're right -- they've stopped making DLC for it -- so that wouldn't really be an issue either -- all in all I don't think it would change anything for ppl who already have the original DA series on Steam.
Posted July 27, 2011
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Lorfean: so that wouldn't really be an issue either -- all in all I don't think it would change anything for ppl who already have the original DA series on Steam.
I failed in the point I was trying to make, and was only using DA as an example. What I'm worried about is EA pulling their entire catalog from Steam in favor or promoting Origin, and so far I've heard nothing reassuring me that that isn't going to happen.
Posted July 27, 2011
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StonerMk2: I still think EA is shooting themselves in the foot with this crap, but its their loss, not mine. Steam will always be my first place to go to for cheap sales on newer games with GoG being right behind it (cheap old games). I dont think Origin is going to get very far, EA dont have the library for it, they dont support their older titles with Origin so i know they wont sell them on Origin and they definitely do not have the cheap prices people are used to with Steam. So all in all, i think this just hurts potential future customers, as for DA2 getting pulled, dont really give a rats ass. Im pretty sure those that wanted it have already bought it and word of mouth will keep others from diving head first into the toilet that is DA2.
You are aware that (at least when Crysis 2 disappeared) it was Valve who pulled it, right?
Posted July 27, 2011
I bet sooner or later EA will move all of their games to Origin. Honestly, why shouldn't they? They have the franchises to do so, this way they can save money they have to pay to Valve for using Steam and they can establish an own platform with the opportunity to sell third-party products some day (in order to get money for this 'service' called Origin).
Posted July 27, 2011
It wouldn't be something to give a rat's ass about, if not for Origin setting the price of DA2 at 50 euros right now - if I recall it was 40 euros a few days ago, but if I am mistaken, please correct me.
Posted July 27, 2011
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SirPrimalform: You are aware that (at least when Crysis 2 disappeared) it was Valve who pulled it, right?
Just because Valve pulled it doesn't mean that's it's not possibly a conscious choice by EA to do things in a way Valve wouldn't agree with.
Posted July 27, 2011
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SirPrimalform: You are aware that (at least when Crysis 2 disappeared) it was Valve who pulled it, right?
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Pheace: Just because Valve pulled it doesn't mean that's it's not possibly a conscious choice by EA to do things in a way Valve wouldn't agree with.
Even if they knew that it would result in Valve pulling the game, I would still say that Valve is not without blame for imposing such restrictions. They're both at fault I suppose.
Posted July 27, 2011
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Pheace: Just because Valve pulled it doesn't mean that's it's not possibly a conscious choice by EA to do things in a way Valve wouldn't agree with.
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SirPrimalform: Even if they knew that it would result in Valve pulling the game, I would still say that Valve is not without blame for imposing such restrictions. They're both at fault I suppose.
Obviously it involves interactions from both parties. Hard to take EA for their word when they keep changing stories though so I guess we might never know. Valve tends to not comment at all unless absolutely necessary. :/
Post edited July 27, 2011 by Pheace
Posted July 27, 2011
EA release the new DLC for DA2 and the next day Steam pull it. Seems pretty clear that it's Steam not EA that is doing this and it's all down to the fact Valve want 25% of all DLC sales for games on Steam now.
Posted July 27, 2011
A company that makes forgettable games moves to a forgettable platform. E what?
Posted July 27, 2011
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kodeen: I failed in the point I was trying to make, and was only using DA as an example. What I'm worried about is EA pulling their entire catalog from Steam in favor or promoting Origin, and so far I've heard nothing reassuring me that that isn't going to happen.
Why is this such a big deal though? Any EA games you already own on Steam would remain in your Steam library, we've already seen that with Crysis 2 and DA2. And any new EA games can be purchased through Origin...

EA are a HUGE organization that seems to be steering towards putting all their franchises under one roof, which isn't really anything new, is it? Just view Origin as EA's version of battle.net -- I don't hear too many people complaining about Blizzard keeping all their games exclusive to their own gaming service.
Post edited July 27, 2011 by Lorfean
Posted July 27, 2011
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Pheace: Obviously it involves interactions from both parties. Hard to take EA for their word when they keep changing stories though so I guess we might never know. Valve tends to not comment at all unless absolutely necessary. :/
EA haven't changed their story. They said Crysis 2 was removed by Valve due to the fact the DLC is sold in game and not via the Steam store. This aparently breached Steam's new agreement. The Steamtards said EA was lying and yet here we are with DA2 pulled the day after DLC was release which is not sold on the Steam store. If you ask me EA have done nothing wrong other than to refuse Valves new Steam agreement.
Posted July 27, 2011
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Delixe: Seems pretty clear that it's Steam not EA that is doing this and it's all down to the fact Valve want 25% of all DLC sales for games on Steam now.
What I do understand is that EA simply does not want to pay this 25%, so they don't release it on Steam, so...
Posted July 27, 2011
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Fifeldor: What I do understand is that EA simply does not want to pay this 25%, so they don't release it on Steam, so...
Why should Valve get a 25% cut of all DLC as well as the games? No other digital distributor does only Valve think they can get away with it. It seems any publisher comes in for the wrath of gamers whenever they exhibit any kind of greed. Except Valve, they are able to do what they like and gamers love them.
Posted July 27, 2011
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Pheace: Obviously it involves interactions from both parties. Hard to take EA for their word when they keep changing stories though so I guess we might never know. Valve tends to not comment at all unless absolutely necessary. :/
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Delixe: EA haven't changed their story. They said Crysis 2 was removed by Valve due to the fact the DLC is sold in game and not via the Steam store. This aparently breached Steam's new agreement. The Steamtards said EA was lying and yet here we are with DA2 pulled the day after DLC was release which is not sold on the Steam store. If you ask me EA have done nothing wrong other than to refuse Valves new Steam agreement.
Just because you easily accept that doesn't mean it's true. There's plenty more games on Steam with DLC bought outside of the Steam Store which are still on the Store. As far as I know there's no proof whatsoever that there's some kind of 'new Steam agreement'. It's just something someone thought up and then made a post about on the SPUF general forums, and as far as I remember was quickly disproven.
Post edited July 27, 2011 by Pheace
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